The problem with men these days...

[lovetoread]

Maybe it has nothing to do with society.
Maybe it's just from living with you.

dont worry, he will find someone better than this person

 

[rae121452]

Thanks to those of you who posted intelligent things. And for the few PM's I received today. It feels good to know that there are people out there who like traditional roles and see why they should be preserved.

girlfriend, i'm feelin' ya, ya hear? you're singing the same blues fairies have been singing for decades! all we want is some big strong hairy man who will beat us, fuck us and tell us how butch he is...what do we get instead? some fruit who wants to get married, move to the suburbs and adopt a couple of third world special needs brats! society is just going to hell in a handbasket! when i go out on a date, i don't want to spend four hours talking about feelings-if that were the case i'd date a lesbian!

 

[Rachaelxx]

How did you get from my original post to this? What should he be seeking exactly? And how do you know he is a catch?

dont worry, he will find someone better than this person

 

[spacekowboy]

How did you get from my original post to this? What should he be seeking exactly? And how do you know he is a catch?

Someone who respects him, perhaps?

 

[juttjaw]

I don't need to prove I'm a man to you pussies.

 

[dolf]

dont worry, he will find someone better than this person

It shouldn't be difficult.

 

[Rockymtnman]

Society is feminizing you and your sons. It is leading to women being in the initiators in 80% of divorces. This is taken from something I discovered in cruising YouTube last night and I thought it was interesting.

How is this happening?

1. Public schools have over corrected and now are too focused on building female leaders. STEM is leaving boys behind. Most teachers are women, teaching in a style that favors girls. Rowdy boys are told to calm down, etc. BULLSHIT
2. Toxic feminism is forcing men to retreat into corners and shut up or be cancelled. BULLSHIT
3. Hollywood depicts men as bumbling idiots. Not enough Fonzies and too many Raymonds.BULLSHIT
4. Soy, GMOs, elevated hormonal birthcontrol levels (environmental factors) in city water could actually be changing men's biology BULLSHIT

What do you think of this?

I am struggling with this in my marriage and I'm concerned about the kind of men that will even be available for my daughters when they are older.

1. What a load of absolute hogwash. My sons went to a stem middle school. 95% of the classes were male. And the teacher taught to everyone’s level.
2. Really? That’s funny. Because I coach one of the most masculine sports on the planet (Rugby) and it’s getting bigger and bigger in the US. The vast majority of people watching our matches are college age women. They’re not screaming about toxic masculinity they’re just cheering the team on.
3. Really? I can name a million movies and tv shows were they show men as macho and in charge. You got Raymond? I’ve got Colombo, Rockford, Barreta, Kojack, Rambo, rocky, any Clint Eastwood movie ever made. and on and on.
4. This even too dumb to answer.

Go watch AON and Learn how Clinton and bush are murdering children and eating their eyeballs because they’re aliens.

I have my doubts your actually a woman to be honest but the worst part about this is how shitty it is to other women. I hunt, fish, play golf and rugby. I’m definitely masculine but I’m not toxic. You can be a man and still be a decent human being. Can cancel culture be a bit heavy handed? Sure. But if you don’t rape anyone or sexually harass anybody chances are you aren’t worried about it.

 

[GoingBackToBed]

There are some studies showing porn has created unrealistic expectations for a lot of people when it comes to sex. And in going with that basically unless it's something kinky and wild both men and women are finding it boring.

https://i.imgur.com/im05tfC.gif

 

[islandman]

.......and I'm concerned about the kind of men that will even be available for my daughters when they are older.

What if those kinds of men are your daughters' preference?

 

[Scareltt]

Now I have that song stuck in my head..

I haven’t thought about that song, since forever. Now it will be stuck in my head. I also just asked Siri to play it..

Where Have All the Cowboys Gone?
Paula Cole

One two three four

Oh you get me ready
In your '56 Chevy
Why don't we go sit down in the shade
Take shelter on my front porch
The dandelion sun scorching
Like a glass of cold lemonade

I will do the laundry
If you pay all the bills
Where is my John Wayne
Where is my prairie song
Where is my happy ending
Where have all the cowboys gone

Why don't you stay the evening
Kick back and watch the T.V.
And I'll fix a little something to eat
Ohh I know your back hurts
From working on the tractor
How do you take your coffee my sweet

I will raise the children
If you pay all the bills
Where is my John Wayne
Where is my prairie song
Where is my happy ending
Where have all the cowboys gone

I am wearing my new dress tonight
But you don't, but you don't even notice me
Say our goodbyes
Say our goodbyes
Say our goodbyes

We finally sell the Chevy
When we had another baby
And you took that job in Tennessee
You made friends at the farm
And you join them at the bar
Almost every single day of the week

I will wash the dishes
While you go have a beer
Where is my John Wayne
Where is my prairie song
Where is my happy ending
Where have all the cowboys gone
Where is my Marlboro Man
Where is his shiny gun
Where is my lonely ranger
Where have all the cowboys gone

Where have all the cowboys gone

Where have all the cowboys gone
Yipee-ay-yippee-yeah (Yeah, yeah, yeah)
Songwriters: Paula Cole
For non-commercial use only.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

What if those kinds of men are your daughters' preference?

https://i.gifer.com/5qxx.gif

"How DARE the both of you marry weak, simpy, milquetoast men who cook gourmet meals with foreign names I can't pronounce for you four times a week, perform cunnilingus on demand and give you hot scented oil massages on Saturday afternoons!"

 

[Scareltt]

I totally respect a mom worried about her children’s future.

Society is feminizing you and your sons. It is leading to women being in the initiators in 80% of divorces. This is taken from something I discovered in cruising YouTube last night and I thought it was interesting.

How is this happening?

1. Public schools have over corrected and now are too focused on building female leaders. STEM is leaving boys behind. Most teachers are women, teaching in a style that favors girls. Rowdy boys are told to calm down, etc.
2. Toxic feminism is forcing men to retreat into corners and shut up or be cancelled.
3. Hollywood depicts men as bumbling idiots. Not enough Fonzies and too many Raymonds.
4. Soy, GMOs, elevated hormonal birthcontrol levels (environmental factors) in city water could actually be changing men's biology

What do you think of this?

I am struggling with this in my marriage and I'm concerned about the kind of men that will even be available for my daughters when they are older.

Lets try to get back to the OP. She sounds like a mother and wife worried about her children’s future, and her marriage. If that were me that would be my whole world, or close to it.

I also think STEM programs are good for all students, however shop classes and trades are also important. We’ll need someone who actually knows how to build stuff.

You can’t really control your husband, you can only control your reaction to him.

 

[Rachaelxx]

You got pretty triggered by a simple post on a discussion board about sex. Kind of emotional for a man if you ask me. . IDK if you are 12 or didn't take your HRT meds yet but please realize that no one thinks raping, hitting or abusing woman is a good idea or that it represents masculinity. But ask any woman who doesn't have blue hair, tattoos on her face or hasn't been molested by her uncle and you will find that most stable women prefer a partner, a protector, someone who can provide for a family should she choose to stay home. What I see on this thread is a lot of anger. It is sad that so many people lack the ability to have a civil discussion.

I have my doubts your actually a woman to be honest but the worst part about this is how shitty it is to other women. I hunt, fish, play golf and rugby. I’m definitely masculine but I’m not toxic. You can be a man and still be a decent human being. Can cancel culture be a bit heavy handed? Sure. But if you don’t rape anyone or sexually harass anybody chances are you aren’t worried about it.

 

[Rachaelxx]

Sorry if I failed to mention I am in the USA. Not referring to what is happening wherever you live.

Traditional values: Rape. Alcoholism. Family abuse including wife-beating and forced incest. Slavery: chattel and sexual. Domination by religious figures. Child labor. Illiteracy. Early death. Are these are your goals? Do you need a man to punch you unconscious? I'm sure you'll find volunteers at dive bars.

 

[oneblueye]

hey...

You got pretty triggered by a simple post on a discussion board about sex. Kind of emotional for a man if you ask me. . IDK if you are 12 or didn't take your HRT meds yet but please realize that no one thinks raping, hitting or abusing woman is a good idea or that it represents masculinity. But ask any woman who doesn't have blue hair, tattoos on her face or hasn't been molested by her uncle and you will find that most stable women prefer a partner, a protector, someone who can provide for a family should she choose to stay home. What I see on this thread is a lot of anger. It is sad that so many people lack the ability to have a civil discussion.

We don't HAVE to be able to have a 'civil' discussion...
we have the internet

 

[islandman]

If this thread is intended as a civil discussion, then should we expect the hubby to post his thoughts soon?

Cause otherwise it's just a one-sided discussion.

 

[Hypoxia]

Sorry if I failed to mention I am in the USA. Not referring to what is happening wherever you live.

Those ARE Murkan traditions. Read up.

 

[Rachaelxx]

If he did it would probably get lost in your 68K posts. Congratulations on that accomplishment.

If this thread is intended as a civil discussion, then should we expect the hubby to post his thoughts soon?

Cause otherwise it's just a one-sided discussion.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

If he did it would probably get lost in your 68K posts. Congratulations on that accomplishment.

What kind of flex is this?

You're the one who's complaining about your mister not being "manly" enough and using your Stepford Wife worm's eye-view opinion of contemporary masculinity in America as a scapegoat for your lack of marital joy.

You're the one who's gotta live with the shit. Not us. You.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/8hZojVtm4yoNZW70oZ/giphy.gif

 

[Delawareguy]

Society is feminizing you and your sons. It is leading to women being in the initiators in 80% of divorces. This is taken from something I discovered in cruising YouTube last night and I thought it was interesting.

How is this happening?

1. Public schools have over corrected and now are too focused on building female leaders. STEM is leaving boys behind. Most teachers are women, teaching in a style that favors girls. Rowdy boys are told to calm down, etc.
2. Toxic feminism is forcing men to retreat into corners and shut up or be cancelled.
3. Hollywood depicts men as bumbling idiots. Not enough Fonzies and too many Raymonds.
4. Soy, GMOs, elevated hormonal birthcontrol levels (environmental factors) in city water could actually be changing men's biology

What do you think of this?

I am struggling with this in my marriage and I'm concerned about the kind of men that will even be available for my daughters when they are older.

First, stop watching the crap on Youtube. Youtube and other social media sites, along with web sites like this one give a forum to, raise awareness of and create an interest in all sorts of behavior that most find abnormal or outside of the mainstream. Some of what you might be seeing there has merit but don't believe everything simply because you hear or read it in several different places. Their source was most likely the same. It just got restated differently.

Society has been becoming more feminized since the women's lib movement got traction, somewhere in the late 60's. But empowering women doesn't directly emasculate men. Men allow themselves to become feminized and in some cases they now desire to look, dress, act like and even become women. Men claiming to be "non-binary" or "gender-fluid" is so avant garde. It's now cool to be fem. Take Bruce Jenner for instance and how the media fawn all over him because "he is being brave and true to who he really is", or whatever praise they want to put on someone who actually has a mental health issue.

As to your worry about no having available men for your daughter, I think you are overreacting. Despite all of the popularity of fem-boys and a segment of society supporting and encouraging it. I think there will always be plenty of men, in fact a majority, who pay no attention to any of that and are happy to be men. Most boys will reject the progressive thinking and know what is abnormal to their instincts. They will do what comes natural and chase the girls. They might be sensitive enough to know better than to abuse and mistreat them, which is a good thing, but that doesn't mean they will want to go dress shopping with your daughter so they can have matching outfits.

 

[Sean]

You got pretty triggered by a simple post on a discussion board about sex. Kind of emotional for a man if you ask me. . IDK if you are 12 or didn't take your HRT meds yet but please realize that no one thinks raping, hitting or abusing woman is a good idea or that it represents masculinity. But ask any woman who doesn't have blue hair, tattoos on her face or hasn't been molested by her uncle and you will find that most stable women prefer a partner, a protector, someone who can provide for a family should she choose to stay home. What I see on this thread is a lot of anger. It is sad that so many people lack the ability to have a civil discussion.

Yeah, this is a bloke.

 

[lovetoread]

Yeah, this is a bloke.

of course it is a dude

they want to come in and throw up their views then get pissy if they are not agreed with

 

[Delawareguy]

Maybe it has nothing to do with society.
Maybe it's just from living with you.

Wow, and people tell me I am unkind.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Women initiate divorce more often as part of the tactics of family law and family court.

The rest ... you just need a real man.

When did you go toxic and start using language like "real man"?

 

[dolf]

What if those kinds of men are your daughters' preference?

Indeed

If this thread is intended as a civil discussion, then should we expect the hubby to post his thoughts soon?


Cause otherwise it's just a one-sided discussion.

If it was intended as an actual discussion, it would read more...

"I'm currently having issues with my husband. He keeps doing X, but is totally neglecting to do Y. Do you think I'm being unreasonable, that this is a wider societal problem, or that I just married a twat?"

instead of,

"Men are sissy!!! Tell me how much you hate sissy men, and tell me how manly you are!!! We can all piss on equality together "

Yeah, this is a bloke.

Who hates sissy men, and is absolutely the most manly.