The reality of happy ending massage parlours (from someone who's worked in one)

@JenniZinc when you worked at the massage place was there a physical or mental turn-on by getting a male client to become erect without touching his dick directly? It seems to me that once you have them on the table and they start getting erect, it is like half the battle. I imagine you are thinking "Yes, I still got it or this is going well!" while smiling to yourself. Even though it is a job, I imagine there is a certain amount of pleasure one feels in bringing about that kind of reaction.
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I must admit I can get a full erection easily jut being in the presence of a beautiful woman. Just looking at each other knowing she is going to finish me with her hand. By my own admission I on one occasion on a visit to one such place I prematurely came once she sat next to me and simply place to hand on me which staring at each other.
 
In my bio I describe myself as being a housewife with a "past". I confess I actually signed up to Literotica after Googling the topic of happy endings for women, and came across a thread that I felt didn't quite do the subject justice.

My past goes back 22 years, when I left a reputable job as a massage therapist and beautician, to join the dark side on ‘the circuit’ (parlour).

Why? Money. If you know what you’re doing and are good at what you do there's plenty to earn. If you're crap, your earnings are in line with that.

In my nine and a bit years I bought an apartment in Melbourne Australia, paid it off in full, and purchased a 20 acre farm with a minimum mortgage. So, I consider myself very good at it.

In Australia it’s not widely known that parlours are usually Asian or Russian (or some other Eastern European) owned. As an Anglo-Saxon white girl I worked on the Russian side. Despite what you may see on TV, I found the Russian bosses to be very fair and reasonable, provided I was flexible.

There’s no straight formula, but the house will usually get 50-75% of the base (what a customer pays when they first enter, and it’s always upfront). Adjusting slightly for inflation, I would earn around $38 of the $75 paid by the customer. Not much for an hour’s work. But I got to keep 100% of the tips, which would be usually $50, sometimes more, but not often.

Obviously the $50 was for the final rub & tug - masturbation. Although I was a qualified masseuse, the ending was pretty much what customers were there for. On the odd occasion where a customer didn’t want to be finished off, or was just there for an actual (God forbid) massage, I was pretty much screwed.

It could get worse. On a quiet period, the house could put a sign out the front for $25 off. Guess who funded that $25 ……. In full! So, if I got a ‘legit’ customer, I could work the full hour for nothing.

It’s usually assumed that we would up our income by offering additional services such as the obvious oral, vaginal or anal. No way - firstly because it was against house rules, and everything was filmed. Bet you didn’t know that!

Why did the house care so much? Motorcycle gangs and other protection rackets tend to leave massage parlours alone. There’s just not enough money in them. Brothels are a different story, and word travels fast. That’s why hidden cameras get installed, simply to keep the girls (and some guys) in line.

If you're reading this and getting nervous about your previous visits, don't be. I can only speak for the parlour I worked in, but in Australia recording without consent is illegal. The business isn't planning to make money by uploading your ejaculation to PornHub :oops:

So, then how did this tale of woe become lucrative? It’s simple ….. hours don’t have to be 60 minutes. As a parlour girl, it’s in your interest to dispose of a customer as fast as possible. Sperm is money, and the faster the better.

If I can dispose of a customer in 40 minutes, I’m increased my earning time by a third. Once you get the experience, 30 minutes is possible, even 20. Why would a customer pay for 60 minutes and leave in 20? Remember the purpose behind the visit. Many men sneak out of work, or are in a different city on business. They want to cum, and after it's over they'll make every excuse to get out, even apologising!

The better you get at disposals, the more walk-ins get allocated to you, and you can even negotiate a better fee with the house.

The subject everyone wants to know about, women customers.

As a straight woman I will still always prefer massaging a female body. They’re smaller and smoother. Most women who entered our doors knew we were not a totally reputable venue, but that’s not to say most were there for sexual extras. Many just liked to have a massage without their undies on, and have their breasts massaged. Licensed massage therapists will never do this.

The problem with women customers is that an hour is actually an hour, plus time for small talk, getting prepared and getting dressed again. A woman walks through the door and the masseuses scatter! Taking on a woman customer generally means earning less money.

Did women ever want happy endings? Yes, regularly. Some were lesbian or bi. Some just wanted the empowering (I'm so woke) experience of being touched by another woman …. After which they would run off and tell their friends, producing more income reducing customers. 😁

To women reading this, I’ll frame this in a way that will make sense. If you picture a woman getting a happy ending, you probably think of me stimulating their clitoris with my fingers. Then consider this, when you masturbate do you use your fingers or a vibrator of some type?

The reality is vibrators, yet for some reason the female customer expects that a parlour girl has a magic ability to know a body well enough to produce an orgasm with her fingers. It just doesn’t happen.

Although female customers took the full hour, as I moved into my 40’s, I would get picked less and less by males. I managed to build up a solid base of regular women, but I had to lay down three solid rules.

First was to please respect my time, with an hour starting the second they entered the room and finishing with the door closing.

Second was that if they wanted ‘release’ they would need to bring their own clitoral (not penetrative) vibrator. In those days, cordless vibes didn’t work well, so they would need a smaller magic want style that could be discreet enough to fit in a handbag.

Third rule was that tips applied. I found woman to have a reluctance to paying the extra, with the view that it’s 10 minutes of massage and should be included for free.

By 2010 I had seen enough sperm, pulled apart enough labias and earned enough money to have a new lifestyle on the farm with my partner. No, he’s not a former customer and yes he does know about my previous job.

To happy ending customers, some pieces of advice.

Firstly, don’t always go for the pretty or sexy girls - I describe myself as plain and chubby, but back then I was plain and average. I would get picked last, but had a very good return of clients due to my massage technique.

Next, to males only. We always had 1-2 male masseurs who were there for guys only. Few of them were gay, but this was the only way they could make a living. If you want to be massaged by a male, just say it - nobody’s going to judge you, think you’re gay or whatever. Straight men I know have told me the best orgasms they've had was from a male. I would never have admitted this in my working days 😅

Next, orgasm is a goal, not a right. Sometimes it doesn’t work, male or female. It’s not our fault, we try our best. Think very carefully before causing a vocal scene, it may not be in your interest.

Lastly, wipe your butts. Believe it or not females are the worst offenders, but if you’re having a massage, jump into the toilet, grab some paper and wipe your bottom. Remember, I can see absolutely everything!

Hopefully I haven’t inspired a wave of massage aspirants. It’s well paying but not something I would recommend to my daughter (if I had one) 😅
Damn good advice. I never asked for a handjob, went to whorehouses for that. In Amsterdam, my twins wanted to go and fuck one. I said, "she willl get you off in 20 minutes and kick you out. Not a good deal, and by God, they listened to me.
 
Having received many handjobs, the women that got my repeat business were the ones who'd mastered the dirty talk.
The sister or mother of your partner is an interesting fantasy but I enjoy the masseuse telling what turns her on and whether she has a boyfriend or not. Some won't share buts that's okay. If they do I am sure the boyfriend gets off on her stories
 
I must admit I can get a full erection easily jut being in the presence of a beautiful woman. Just looking at each other knowing she is going to finish me with her hand. By my own admission I on one occasion on a visit to one such place I prematurely came once she sat next to me and simply place to hand on me which staring at each other.
Well done, you're in the minority, although when I was working I would have done my best to get you out of the room. Harsh I know but it's that kind of business :)
 
In my bio I describe myself as being a housewife with a "past". I confess I actually signed up to Literotica after Googling the topic of happy endings for women, and came across a thread that I felt didn't quite do the subject justice.

My past goes back 22 years, when I left a reputable job as a massage therapist and beautician, to join the dark side on ‘the circuit’ (parlour).

Why? Money. If you know what you’re doing and are good at what you do there's plenty to earn. If you're crap, your earnings are in line with that.

In my nine and a bit years I bought an apartment in Melbourne Australia, paid it off in full, and purchased a 20 acre farm with a minimum mortgage. So, I consider myself very good at it.

In Australia it’s not widely known that parlours are usually Asian or Russian (or some other Eastern European) owned. As an Anglo-Saxon white girl I worked on the Russian side. Despite what you may see on TV, I found the Russian bosses to be very fair and reasonable, provided I was flexible.

There’s no straight formula, but the house will usually get 50-75% of the base (what a customer pays when they first enter, and it’s always upfront). Adjusting slightly for inflation, I would earn around $38 of the $75 paid by the customer. Not much for an hour’s work. But I got to keep 100% of the tips, which would be usually $50, sometimes more, but not often.

Obviously the $50 was for the final rub & tug - masturbation. Although I was a qualified masseuse, the ending was pretty much what customers were there for. On the odd occasion where a customer didn’t want to be finished off, or was just there for an actual (God forbid) massage, I was pretty much screwed.

It could get worse. On a quiet period, the house could put a sign out the front for $25 off. Guess who funded that $25 ……. In full! So, if I got a ‘legit’ customer, I could work the full hour for nothing.

It’s usually assumed that we would up our income by offering additional services such as the obvious oral, vaginal or anal. No way - firstly because it was against house rules, and everything was filmed. Bet you didn’t know that!

Why did the house care so much? Motorcycle gangs and other protection rackets tend to leave massage parlours alone. There’s just not enough money in them. Brothels are a different story, and word travels fast. That’s why hidden cameras get installed, simply to keep the girls (and some guys) in line.

If you're reading this and getting nervous about your previous visits, don't be. I can only speak for the parlour I worked in, but in Australia recording without consent is illegal. The business isn't planning to make money by uploading your ejaculation to PornHub :oops:

So, then how did this tale of woe become lucrative? It’s simple ….. hours don’t have to be 60 minutes. As a parlour girl, it’s in your interest to dispose of a customer as fast as possible. Sperm is money, and the faster the better.

If I can dispose of a customer in 40 minutes, I’m increased my earning time by a third. Once you get the experience, 30 minutes is possible, even 20. Why would a customer pay for 60 minutes and leave in 20? Remember the purpose behind the visit. Many men sneak out of work, or are in a different city on business. They want to cum, and after it's over they'll make every excuse to get out, even apologising!

The better you get at disposals, the more walk-ins get allocated to you, and you can even negotiate a better fee with the house.

The subject everyone wants to know about, women customers.

As a straight woman I will still always prefer massaging a female body. They’re smaller and smoother. Most women who entered our doors knew we were not a totally reputable venue, but that’s not to say most were there for sexual extras. Many just liked to have a massage without their undies on, and have their breasts massaged. Licensed massage therapists will never do this.

The problem with women customers is that an hour is actually an hour, plus time for small talk, getting prepared and getting dressed again. A woman walks through the door and the masseuses scatter! Taking on a woman customer generally means earning less money.

Did women ever want happy endings? Yes, regularly. Some were lesbian or bi. Some just wanted the empowering (I'm so woke) experience of being touched by another woman …. After which they would run off and tell their friends, producing more income reducing customers. 😁

To women reading this, I’ll frame this in a way that will make sense. If you picture a woman getting a happy ending, you probably think of me stimulating their clitoris with my fingers. Then consider this, when you masturbate do you use your fingers or a vibrator of some type?

The reality is vibrators, yet for some reason the female customer expects that a parlour girl has a magic ability to know a body well enough to produce an orgasm with her fingers. It just doesn’t happen.

Although female customers took the full hour, as I moved into my 40’s, I would get picked less and less by males. I managed to build up a solid base of regular women, but I had to lay down three solid rules.

First was to please respect my time, with an hour starting the second they entered the room and finishing with the door closing.

Second was that if they wanted ‘release’ they would need to bring their own clitoral (not penetrative) vibrator. In those days, cordless vibes didn’t work well, so they would need a smaller magic want style that could be discreet enough to fit in a handbag.

Third rule was that tips applied. I found woman to have a reluctance to paying the extra, with the view that it’s 10 minutes of massage and should be included for free.

By 2010 I had seen enough sperm, pulled apart enough labias and earned enough money to have a new lifestyle on the farm with my partner. No, he’s not a former customer and yes he does know about my previous job.

To happy ending customers, some pieces of advice.

Firstly, don’t always go for the pretty or sexy girls - I describe myself as plain and chubby, but back then I was plain and average. I would get picked last, but had a very good return of clients due to my massage technique.

Next, to males only. We always had 1-2 male masseurs who were there for guys only. Few of them were gay, but this was the only way they could make a living. If you want to be massaged by a male, just say it - nobody’s going to judge you, think you’re gay or whatever. Straight men I know have told me the best orgasms they've had was from a male. I would never have admitted this in my working days 😅

Next, orgasm is a goal, not a right. Sometimes it doesn’t work, male or female. It’s not our fault, we try our best. Think very carefully before causing a vocal scene, it may not be in your interest.

Lastly, wipe your butts. Believe it or not females are the worst offenders, but if you’re having a massage, jump into the toilet, grab some paper and wipe your bottom. Remember, I can see absolutely everything!

Hopefully I haven’t inspired a wave of massage aspirants. It’s well paying but not something I would recommend to my daughter (if I had one) 😅
Great info and super informative...
 
Well done, you're in the minority, although when I was working I would have done my best to get you out of the room. Harsh I know but it's that kind of business :)
I do have a question for you. Did any of the guys even request you to massage them until orgasm standing up or other positions rather the obvious lying on the table such as a reach over.
 
A escort I used to see did a few girl on girl porn. She said pay for girl/girl was less then girl/guy porn.

I have wondered how the pay scale changes when the girl is involved in BDSM as the giver verses the receiver.

Then there is the Wheel of Pain and Queensnake. Those girls really take some serious hits and pain. How is there pay scale. I seen a wheel of pain video that the girl got 2 or 3 thousand dollars for getting whipped on all of her sensitive parts. Seems like more pay would be required to accept that pain unless you were hard up for money.

As with any job, if you do something that fewer people will do and has a element of difficulty or pain, the pay is different.
Sorry, this thread has nothing to do with this :)
 
I responded to an Ad years ago offering "Sensual Massage". We talked on the phone first and then I went to her apartment. It ended up being my best sensual massage ever. My point is since I knew it was going to include a HJ finish, it made it even more erotic. There was no "signal" at the end that I wanted a happy ending or extra cash given out at the end, it was one price and lots of fun.

I can see how some people go to a place not knowing if they are going to get a happy ending can be exciting. I prefer to know ahead of time. In my case, I was not at a massage business that relies on lots of customers so your time is limited. I didn't feel rushed and I know she probably had other customers but we had lots of time to play.
ES
 
I responded to an Ad years ago offering "Sensual Massage". We talked on the phone first and then I went to her apartment. It ended up being my best sensual massage ever. My point is since I knew it was going to include a HJ finish, it made it even more erotic. There was no "signal" at the end that I wanted a happy ending or extra cash given out at the end, it was one price and lots of fun.

I can see how some people go to a place not knowing if they are going to get a happy ending can be exciting. I prefer to know ahead of time. In my case, I was not at a massage business that relies on lots of customers so your time is limited. I didn't feel rushed and I know she probably had other customers but we had lots of time to play.
ES
Home based massage services are a lot different to shop-fronts. Personally, I think it's something I wouldn't do as it's a dangerous occupation, and security is a big part of our business. The service you went to didn't have to be both sensual and non-sensual. Although the majority of our customers were happy endings, we still had to deal with lots of general massage, even though most of the staff weren't properly qualified (I was, although I hated non-sensual's as there was very little money in them except for my straight split).
 
Home based massage services are a lot different to shop-fronts. Personally, I think it's something I wouldn't do as it's a dangerous occupation, and security is a big part of our business. The service you went to didn't have to be both sensual and non-sensual. Although the majority of our customers were happy endings, we still had to deal with lots of general massage, even though most of the staff weren't properly qualified (I was, although I hated non-sensual's as there was very little money in them except for my straight split).
Thought about dabbling to get a massage, but I know it's all about making money, and I do not trust going to a womans private place not knowing them... What are the risks to the client ? Although it is enticing to me to "just go for it" hahahahha
 
Thought about dabbling to get a massage, but I know it's all about making money, and I do not trust going to a womans private place not knowing them... What are the risks to the client ? Although it is enticing to me to "just go for it" hahahahha
Hmmmmm
 
Thought about dabbling to get a massage, but I know it's all about making money, and I do not trust going to a womans private place not knowing them... What are the risks to the client ? Although it is enticing to me to "just go for it" hahahahha
Just making some big assumptions. It's definitely appears risky going to a private home for a massage especially with a happy ending. Maybe you are being filmed or the old man is watching ha ha! See you in next lot of online porn.
 
Just making some big assumptions. It's definitely appears risky going to a private home for a massage especially with a happy ending. Maybe you are being filmed or the old man is watching ha ha! See you in next lot of online porn.
I agree it can be risky going to a private place. Especially in a country where it is illegal. But even going to a regular massage place--that offers extras, they might have cameras. Ask Mr. Robert Kraft.
ES
 
@JenniZinc thank You so much for this incredibly interesting and educational and exciting thread! i saw one of Your posts that sometimes guys would wear panties when they came in for a message. Was anything ever said in advance or during the massage about the panties? Would You comment on them, or did they offer some excuse or reason for wearing them? Or just "nothing said" at all? It's all very intriguing. i'm also curious about You talking to the clients during the HE, and asking them who they're thinking of.

i love the idea of an older woman, who's sensual and nurturing. A mature woman definitely in charge, fondling and coddling me while reaching inside my panties. Mmmmm.....a fantasy for sure, maybe i'll have it fulfilled one day?? : )

Thank you Jenni....your willingness to share past experience, engage with the Lit community, and answer questions honestly and eagerly is VERY much appreciated! Ok...."wine time"..... : )
 
I agree it can be risky going to a private place. Especially in a country where it is illegal. But even going to a regular massage place--that offers extras, they might have cameras. Ask Mr. Robert Kraft.
ES
I don't know who Robert Kraft is, and not quite sure of your point. The issue of danger is more for the masseuse or masseur who lose the benefit of security offered to those working in proper venues.
 
I always love updates on this thread,I love to add a quick note from each time I get a happy ending at my local massage spot. I went last week after an oil change. It was with my favorite masseuse that knows me well,greets me with enthusiasm and waves me in quickly as soon as I walk through the doors.
It’s such a small spot and low key,she leaves the door open,watches me undress which I love and immediately gets to work on me. We’re both always on the same page and she undresses as soon as she begins. I’m never disappointed with her!
 
Was anything ever said in advance or during the massage about the panties? Would You comment on them, or did they offer some excuse or reason for wearing them? Or just "nothing said" at all? It's all very intriguing. i'm also curious about You talking to the clients during the HE, and asking them who they're thinking of.
I would quite often mention their panties, as anything to turn a client on means a faster and more satisfying outcome. It was funny that most panties worn were straight out of the packet, and I'm guessing discarded shortly after.

If anything it made my life a little less messy as I would simply rub their penises until they came in their panties. No sperm on my hands, arms or face :)

Talking to clients about who they were thinking of was a game of cat and mouse as they would usually lie up to 3 times before giving me the real answer. All I would do was answer along the lines of hmmmmm is that really who you're thinking about? I don't think so (and this included if they said they were fantasising about me, which was often a default answer).
 
I don't know who Robert Kraft is, and not quite sure of your point. The issue of danger is more for the masseuse or masseur who lose the benefit of security offered to those working in proper venues.
Owner of NE patriots
 
Now tell her what the Patriots have got to do with cameras in a massage-place-with-extras.
 
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