The republican trolls are really ramping it up into high gear...

I'm sure there are plenty of morons in the world. Of that, I have no doubt. And their fear is apparent in the amount of lies and slander that they're willing to unleash, by the same political machine that got Bush the nomination over Mccain.

Ironic, isn't it?

What lies and slander? :confused:

There's been about as much lies and slander from the right wing as there's been from the left in recent weeks.
 
What's so hard to understand about tax cuts equalling increased federal income?


You're kidding right? Federal spending has been in the red every year for the last 8 years. So you're saying give a tax cut (lower the coffers) to match increased federal spending. Your statement is contradictory to itself. If the government was operating in a surplus then you could cut taxes. But that's not the case. Federal spending needs to take a serious nose-dive, starting with no-bid contracts and contracts which have no oversight.
 
What lies and slander? :confused:

There's been about as much lies and slander from the right wing as there's been from the left in recent weeks.

The "obama is a muslim" internet meme, the "obama hates white people" internet campaign, the "obama is a socialist" internet meme.... I could go on, but you'd just pretend you don't know what i'm talking about...

I always wondered what it was like to lie to yourself on a daily basis...
 
I'm sure there are plenty of morons in the world. Of that, I have no doubt. And their fear is apparent in the amount of lies and slander that they're willing to unleash, by the same political machine that got Bush the nomination over Mccain.

Ironic, isn't it?

Speaking of irony...

Why don't you do something major to change all the fear, lies and slander being unleashed instead of calling people trolls, morons, dumb etcetera on a porn board if it bothers you so?
 
Speaking of irony...

Why don't you do something major to change all the fear, lies and slander being unleashed instead of calling people trolls, morons, dumb etcetera on a porn board if it bothers you so?

You're assuming I don't...

Which once again... proves you're dumb.
 
I don't recall him promising to erase the deficit.

Are you high?

It's not really related to the topic, I'm just curious.

I think you're high, because that stunts short-term memory, so they say:

– “McCain pledges to balance the budget by 2012, not by increasing taxes, but by vetoing all pork barrel spending, and curbing outlays for Social Security and Medicare.” [Fortune, 2/19/08]

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/07/holtz-eakin-deficit/
 
The "obama is a muslim" internet meme, the "obama hates white people" internet campaign, the "obama is a socialist" internet meme.... I could go on, but you'd just pretend you don't know what i'm talking about...

I always wondered what it was like to lie to yourself on a daily basis...

The Muslim one is the only one I consider a "lie."

That man sat and listened to Rev Wright's sermons for 20 years, how surprising that NOW he'd choose to distance himself from him? If he didn't, that wouldn't harm his campaign much, would it? :rolleyes:
 
You're kidding right? Federal spending has been in the red every year for the last 8 years. So you're saying give a tax cut (lower the coffers) to match increased federal spending. Your statement is contradictory to itself. If the government was operating in a surplus then you could cut taxes. But that's not the case. Federal spending needs to take a serious nose-dive, starting with no-bid contracts and contracts which have no oversight.

I didn't say anything about federal spending. I said federal income.

As millions of Americans can tell you based on their own financial problems, it's very possible to outspend your income, even if you get a raise.

We need to cut spending, yes. We desperately need to cut spending.

I never said the government was operating in a surplus.

All that I said is that with tax cuts come more federal income.

They cut our income taxes, we spend more, we buy more, we invest more, they get more.
 
The Muslim one is the only one I consider a "lie."

That man sat and listened to Rev Wright's sermons for 20 years, how surprising that NOW he'd choose to distance himself from him? If he didn't, that wouldn't harm his campaign much, would it? :rolleyes:

Rev Wright hates white people?

Have you taken 5 minutes to listen to a full sermon? Because I have... and he's pretty right on the money about the problems that face america. Obama had to distance himself from Wright for political reasons, but Wright is right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvnMK1d9xE0
 
“Do you support state legislation to … ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns? Yes.” (Independent Voters of Illinois/Independent Precinct Organization general candidate questionnaire, Sept. 9, 1996

“I’m consistently on record and will continue to be on record as opposing concealed carry.” (Chicago Tribune, April 27, 2004)

“I believe in keeping guns out of our inner cities and that our leaders must say so in the face of the gun manufacturers lobby.” Barack Obama, The Audacity of Hope (2006).

Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sports shooting. (United States Senate, vote no. 217, S. 397, July 29, 2005)

Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people who use firearms in self-defense. (Illinois Senate, SB 2165, vote 20, March 25, 2004)

In his only two votes on confirming Supreme Court nominees, Obama voted against two of the five justices (Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito) who later affirmed an individual right to keep and bear arms in the case of District of Columbia v. Heller.

In other words: Obama wants to take away the ability for a man to defend himself, and more importantly, his family.
 
I didn't say anything about federal spending. I said federal income.

As millions of Americans can tell you based on their own financial problems, it's very possible to outspend your income, even if you get a raise.

We need to cut spending, yes. We desperately need to cut spending.

I never said the government was operating in a surplus.

All that I said is that with tax cuts come more federal income.

They cut our income taxes, we spend more, we buy more, we invest more, they get more.



They cut income taxes and that directly cuts government revenue. People might spend more but the Feds don't get revenue from sales tax.
 
They cut income taxes and that directly cuts government revenue. People might spend more but the Feds don't get revenue from sales tax.

People spend more, that spurs economic growth. People get jobs. More jobs = more income taxes.
 
Rev Wright hates white people?

Have you taken 5 minutes to listen to a full sermon? Because I have... and he's pretty right on the money about the problems that face america. Obama had to distance himself from Wright for political reasons, but Wright is right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvnMK1d9xE0

You know what, I don't have to listen to a full sermon. He says the same thing that NOI leaders say, white scientists infected Africans with the AIDS virus. Anyone that thinks like that is dangerous, how much anger must that man harbour if he TRULY believes that?

Not to mention all the other racist crap he's said.

McCain should never have avoided that angle for his campaign, because that's one of the strongest he has at his disposal. Obama sat through and took in years of racist preaching against white people. And only NOW he condemns it, gimme a freaking break! :rolleyes:
 
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The "obama is a muslim" internet meme, the "obama hates white people" internet campaign, the "obama is a socialist" internet meme.... I could go on, but you'd just pretend you don't know what i'm talking about...

I always wondered what it was like to lie to yourself on a daily basis...

Michelle Obama hates whitey
 
People spend more, that spurs economic growth. People get jobs. More jobs = more income taxes.

More jobs that all pay less income taxes. Wouldn't it even out?

OK, even if this theory was plausible, can you name a time when they lowered taxes significantly across the boards, and total government revenue and spending also increased as a direct effect?
 
You know what, I don't have to listen to a full sermon. He says the same thing that NOI leaders say, white scientists infected Africans with the AIDS virus. Anyone that thinks like that are dangerous, how much anger must that man harbour if he TRULY believes that?

Not to mention all the other racist crap he's said.

McCain should never have avoided that angle for his campaign, because that's one of the strongest he has. Obama sat through and took in years of racist preaching against white people. And only NOW he condemns it, gimme a freaking break! :rolleyes:

Rev Wright isn't racist... you need to stop playing chinese telephone with the issues... it makes you believe whatever they want you to believe... You won't even take 5 minutes to listen to a man speak in his own words, but you'll condemn him for lies that have been told about him.

You're scared...
 
More jobs that all pay less income taxes. Wouldn't it even out?

OK, even if this theory was plausible, can you name a time when they lowered taxes significantly across the boards, and total government revenue and spending also increased as a direct effect?

JFK and Reagan, to name two.
 
Rev Wright isn't racist... you need to stop playing chinese telephone with the issues... it makes you believe whatever they want you to believe... You won't even take 5 minutes to listen to a man speak in his own words, but you'll condemn him for lies that have been told about him.

You're scared...


I have listened to a lot more of his sermons than you might think and he has a point about a few things...... ESPECIALLY if you happen to be a tree hugging hippy war activist.

BUT the man STILL blames America for creating the AIDS virus....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uY28l6HoKww&feature=related :rolleyes:

You're scared that a lot more of us are waking up to this shit than you originally thought.
 
I have listened to a lot more of his sermons than you might think and he has a point about a few things...... ESPECIALLY if you happen to be a tree hugging hippy war activist.

BUT the man STILL blames America for creating the AIDS virus....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=uY28l6HoKww&feature=related :rolleyes:

You're scared that a lot more of us are waking up to this shit than you originally thought.

And he's wrong about that... That doesn't take away from all the things that he's right about.

Dr. Martin Luther King was abusive towards women... He was wrong about that. It doesn't take away from his positive accomplishments.

You still haven't addressed how exactly Wright is racist... Because I haven't seen anything to indicate that.

If you want to talk about bigoted, we can go to the Pastor Hagees and the Jerry Fallwells, and the Ted Haggards that have supported Mccain and are tied very closely to his campaign (with the exception of Haggard, who got caught with a gay prostitute and some meth).

We can also talk about Palin's fucked up church if you'd like... although I haven't heard anything bigoted coming out of it, just creepy and voodoo-like.
 
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