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Wilson23 said:
No, the truth is that you are one of them, and therefore a liar.
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I see you're talking to yourself again.

There you o again, claiming to know what a group of people think better than they do, whey YOU KNOW YOU'RE LYING.

You're a dishonest, arrogant idiot.
 
SkyBubble said:
I see you're talking to yourself again.

There you o again, claiming to know what a group of people think better than they do, whey YOU KNOW YOU'RE LYING.

You're a dishonest, arrogant idiot.
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I know that what they are thinking is not what they SAY they are thinking. They are liars. You are a liar. I am not.
 
SkyBubble said:
First of all, Strasser was one of Hitler's people, a Nazi party member. So by identifying Strasser as a socialist, you're admitting that the Nazis were socialists. Thank you.

Like all socialist regimes, he purged his own crowd every now and then. (Stalin did the same.)

Second, if it's misattributed by the video maker, the rest of the quotes are not, and they are very much in line with teh quote you cited.

Third, as this article shows, Hitler said National Socialism was based on Marx and at the time, both the Nazis and the democratic socialists believed the Nazis were, in fact, socialists. "His differences with the communists, he explained, were less ideological than tactical."


https://wallbuilders.com/resource/the-nazis-really-were-socialists/

https://lawliberty.org/book-review/the-socialism-in-nazism/

https://mises.org/friday-philosophy/yes-nazis-were-socialists

https://mises.org/mises-wire/yes-they-were-socialists-how-nazis-waged-war-private-property

https://mises.org/mises-daily/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian
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It may be that the NAZI party started that way. Sure, they were populists railing against the Jewish capitalists. They were also propagandist, just like you.

Once Hitler got into power he murdered the Socialist faction of his own party.

Truth is so inconvenient for you.
 
AlexBailey said:
“Stat”? 😅

I guess you don’t give enough of a shit to pay attention. You don’t belong in any honest conversation.

$10 billion is the amount Trump has filed in a lawsuit against the IRS.
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The stated amount you sue for never matters.
 
SkyBubble said:
First of all, Strasser was one of Hitler's people, a Nazi party member. So by identifying Strasser as a socialist, you're admitting that the Nazis were socialists. Thank you.

Like all socialist regimes, he purged his own crowd every now and then. (Stalin did the same.)

Second, if it's misattributed by the video maker, the rest of the quotes are not, and they are very much in line with teh quote you cited.

Third, as this article shows, Hitler said National Socialism was based on Marx and at the time, both the Nazis and the democratic socialists believed the Nazis were, in fact, socialists. "His differences with the communists, he explained, were less ideological than tactical."


https://wallbuilders.com/resource/the-nazis-really-were-socialists/

https://lawliberty.org/book-review/the-socialism-in-nazism/

https://mises.org/friday-philosophy/yes-nazis-were-socialists

https://mises.org/mises-wire/yes-they-were-socialists-how-nazis-waged-war-private-property

https://mises.org/mises-daily/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian
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I checked your sources. All rightwing, all slippery with facts except for Lawliberty.com - it’s just right biased instead of right biased and factually challenged. Still the article is not a researched article, it’s a book review of an author said to be:

“Among the almost uniformly liberal historians of Nazi Germany, Rainer Zitelmann stands apart. After a youthful phase of left-wing politics, he has been a lifelong conservative, a staunch defender of capitalism who once had his car torched by the far-left.”

The article just regurgitates the author’s narrative without any challenges.


So yeah. You’re into the conservative echo chamber and consider rightwing spin and propaganda to be fact. ✅
 
There IS a split in MAGA between warhawks and isolationists. It is a serious thing, and will only grow more serious now.
 
Wilson23 said:
I know that what they are thinking is not what they SAY they are thinking. They are liars. You are a liar. I am not.
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So if people don't believe what you say they believe, they're lying. Got it.

As I said, you have no idea what you're talking about, you think you know what people believe and experience better than those people themselves, and you're not open to contradictory information, even from the people themselves.

Which means you're not worth anyone's time. Yu're just a self-righteous, dishonest, arrogant jackass.
 
SkyBubble said:
So if people don't believe what you say they believe, they're lying.
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In this case, certainly. Is that such a stretch? You yourself know perfectly well that Donald Trump does not believe what he says he does.
 
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SkyBubble said:
So if people don't believe what you say they believe, they're lying. Got it.

As I said, you have no idea what you're talking about, you think you know what people believe and experience better than those people themselves, and you're not open to contradictory information, even from the people themselves.

Which means you're not worth anyone's time. Yu're just a self-righteous, dishonest, arrogant jackass.
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We know what you believe because you’re always spouting about it. We know most of it is bullshit because you spout opinion as fact, your sources are biased, and many of your facts don’t stand up to scrutiny.

Shit flows out of your head onto your keyboard and spills out all over the forum where everyone can see it.

If you could make a clean argument with clean supporting evidence you might be worth listening to.
 
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