There are a few words, when used in a story that bother me.

[Erozetta]

I suppose this is a good example of differing associations. I had never looked at my substitute descriptions as 'cutesy' or depicting women as being less. I look at it as being 'flowery', even poetic. If I'm describing a scene to be soft, beautiful, 'flowery ', I use those descriptions. If I want to make it feel more animalistic I will use words like pussy and cock.
Like I said, I try to use words to express a theme.

Fully understandable.

And I didn't mean to imply your use of them was depicting women as less than or the like, just that my association with those words in such usage was typically done in a way that's meant to hype femininity up to an almost comical level to make the MFC seem softer and more innocent instead of depicting that through the character's aesthetic and demeanor. In other words, I typically see it in writing that is reductive to women in a lazy ass way.

I have seen uses of them that don't irritate me, but they are few and far between.

I don't think anyone should stop using those words because there is a large number of people who prefer that wording over the more vulgar terms. I just prefer vulgarity, lol. Particularly when a character is depicted as sweet and innocent otherwise. There's something extra erotic to me about vulgarity from innocence, just as there's something extra creepy about kids in horror movies.

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

I don't mind "ass" to refer to someone being foolish, rather than unpleasant. But perhaps that's an age thing? I haven't lived in the UK for a very long time.

Out of a sexual context, I agree. In fact, I once came across a definition for 'Ass' that, to me, may be the most prefect definition in the entire English lexicon:

"Ass: An aggressively ignorant person."

I want to give the credit to The Oxford Dictionary, but I can't find it again, so...

 

[SimonDoom]

I must confess that there's an impish side to me that wants to write a story where I go pedal to the metal with outrageous terms like "hot honey hole" and "thunderpole." Or a story riffing on Kiss's song "Love Gun." Again, it's all context.

I have yet to do this, however.

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

I must confess that there's an impish side to me that wants to write a story where I go pedal to the metal with outrageous terms like "hot honey hole" and "thunderpole." Or a story riffing on Kiss's song "Love Gun." Again, it's all context.

I have yet to do this, however.

Save it for February, the 750 word event. How many cringe metaphors and idioms can you cram into 750 words?

 

[Poeticwolf]

Fully understandable.

And I didn't mean to imply your use of them was depicting women as less than or the like, just that my association with those words in such usage was typically done in a way that's meant to hype femininity up to an almost comical level to make the MFC seem softer and more innocent instead of depicting that through the character's aesthetic and demeanor. In other words, I typically see it in writing that is reductive to women in a lazy ass way.

I have seen uses of them that don't irritate me, but they are few and far between.

I don't think anyone should stop using those words because there is a large number of people who prefer that wording over the more vulgar terms. I just prefer vulgarity, lol. Particularly when a character is depicted as sweet and innocent otherwise. There's something extra erotic to me about vulgarity from innocence, just as there's something extra creepy about kids in horror movies.

I didn't take it that way, I understood you.
I have to confess, the dynamic you describe is intriguing to me, as it is not something I have considered

 

[StillStunned]

I don't think anyone should stop using those words because there is a large number of people who prefer that wording over the more vulgar terms. I just prefer vulgarity, lol. Particularly when a character is depicted as sweet and innocent otherwise. There's something extra erotic to me about vulgarity from innocence, just as there's something extra creepy about kids in horror movies.

When I wrote "The Countesses of Tannensdal", my goal was to emulate a style that a mid-19th century British gentleman might use in writing. So I avoided words like "cunt", "pussy", "cock".

Most of what I used is fairly straightforward: buttocks, shaft, mound, entrance and so on. But on glancing through the story just now, I did find "my tongue explored her secret vale". Slightly cringy.

Luckily, I follow up a few lines later with this, which I think more than makes up for it: "For an instant I wondered whether she was leaving and I would be reduced to cleaning my own barrel, as an acquaintance in the horse artillery described it."

 

[Erozetta]

I didn't take it that way, I understood you.
I have to confess, the dynamic you describe is intriguing to me, as it is not something I have considered

A young nun wearing sexy lingerie beneath her habit and seducing another sister - maybe she is questioning her faith - with whispered vulgarities after day of pious grace and prayer is something with a little extra oomph to it.

 

[Britva415]

There is no word I can presently think of which will automatically make me cringe and nope out of a story. It's all in how it's presented and what its function is, in serving the story as told. All of them can work and all of them have some story in which they work, without causing eyeroll.

There definitely are words I don't like, but authors can use them skillfully and I won't be mad.

 

[Poeticwolf]

A young nun wearing sexy lingerie beneath her habit and seducing another sister - maybe she is questioning her faith - with whispered vulgarities after day of pious grace and prayer is something with a little extra oomph to it.

It certainly emphasizes the intensity of the extreme carnality she is exhibiting, certainly in juxtaposition to her exterior mask of piety. The bad girl trapped in a good girl's body

 

[Erozetta]

When I wrote "The Countesses of Tannensdal", my goal was to emulate a style that a mid-19th century British gentleman might use in writing. So I avoided words like "cunt", "pussy", "cock".

Most of what I used is fairly straightforward: buttocks, shaft, mound, entrance and so on. But on glancing through the story just now, I did find "my tongue explored her secret vale". Slightly cringy.

Luckily, I follow up a few lines later with this, which I think more than makes up for it: "For an instant I wondered whether she was leaving and I would be reduced to cleaning my own barrel, as an acquaintance in the horse artillery described it."

Those are often the times when such wording doesn't bother me (and why I don't write historical based erotica.).

But a story set in the 80s, 90s, or current times? It would have to be extremely good to get me to overlook that level of cringe.

 

[SimonDoom]

Save it for February, the 750 word event. How many cringe metaphors and idioms can you cram into 750 words?

Excellent idea!

 

[Erozetta]

It certainly emphasizes the intensity of the extreme carnality she is exhibiting, certainly in juxtaposition to her exterior mask of piety. The bad girl trapped in a good girl's body

Doesn't have to have anything to do with good or bad, just owning your own sexuality and wielding it with precision.

 

[LustyLux]

I can deal with words like "horny" but will nope out of a story if I see fluffy language used to describe female anatomy --(referring to her vagina as "her sex" or anything to do with flowers or honey.)

Or a clitoris being referred to as some sort of "button."

 

[Poeticwolf]

Doesn't have to have anything to do with good or bad, just owning your own sexuality and wielding it with precision.

Sorry, just picked general labels to categorize the base ideas of opposing extremes

 

[StillStunned]

Or a clitoris being referred to as some sort of "button."

"Button" is better than "knob", surely?

 

[Erozetta]

I can deal with words like "horny" but will nope out of a story if I see fluffy language used to describe female anatomy --(referring to her vagina as "her sex" or anything to do with flowers or honey.)

Or a clitoris being referred to as some sort of "button."

Altissimus gets a pass on that with me. He managed to use that phrasing and got me to read over 100k words of him using that phrasing, lol.

 

[Erozetta]

Sorry, just picked general labels to categorize the base ideas of opposing extremes

No need for sorries. Was just pointing out another aspect of the appeal. I think I just found the little seed of a story for Pink Orchid, though.

 

[Melody_Lightdraft2]

In UK history, it was called a, "cock," when flaccid and, "prick," when erect.

My equine characters, including centaurs have a cock or shaft. Centaurides have vulvas, that, "wink," when in heat.

As for, bitch, that is the correct word for any female canine even anthropormorphic ones.

 

[Poeticwolf]

No need for sorries. Was just pointing out another aspect of the appeal. I think I just found the little seed of a story for Pink Orchid, though.

Happy to provide some inspiration. Now, if only I could get some lol

 

[OtherwisePrint6210]

I can deal with words like "horny" but will nope out of a story if I see fluffy language used to describe female anatomy --(referring to her vagina as "her sex" or anything to do with flowers or honey.)

Or a clitoris being referred to as some sort of "button."

I remember reading early romance novels as a kid and wondering What is a “magic button “?

 

[StillStunned]

I remember reading early romance novels as a kid and wondering What is a “magic button “?

It's like magic beans. Something from fairy tales that men have looked for but never found.

 

[MrPixel]

My characters have their own feelings about annoying words:

"Put 'er on speaker!" Emily requests.
"I heard that! Do it! I know the rules!"
Steve sets the phone on his desk and selects the speaker. "What rules?" as he winks to Emily.
Penny laughs. "Steven's speakerphone rules! You know, don't say 'shit', 'piss', 'fuck', 'cunt', 'pussy', or 'twat'. Or 'tittie'!"

Not necessarily my rules, but you get the joke.

I think a lot of these words and euphemisms are contextual. For exemple, "Cunt" and "twat" are only used by women with women. (I feel) they are diminishing when used by a male. I use "slit" occasionally, especially when the clitoris is involved. Never used "button", it just seems too cutesy; it's always "clit" or "clitoris".

I feel that "dick" is archaic, and rarely use it. Then there's the insult aspect, "He's a dick." "He's a cock" doesn't work the same way, but "prick" does, but who uses "prick" in erotic writing? I don't. Then I get hung-up in my father's name, "Richard", known to everybody as "Dick".

"Ass"? Very rarely. Maybe as a compliment, "Great ass!" or in an expression of sympathy, "That sure bit 'im on the ass." The ladies in my stories will, however, "...swat 'im on his bare butt for his insolence."

Now I do use "horny" in dialog for certain female characters expressing overwhelming libidinal desire to a lover who is also a best friend. I write a lot of lover/friends. Narrator never uses "horny".

 

[MillieDynamite]

I find the words cunt, twit, twat, and mf to be the ones that offend me the most. But I've used all of them in stories because they are powerful. Cunt, Twit, and Twat are incredibly offensive to me when used at a person. "What a twit, twat, or cunt," is about intelligence or how others perceive an individual on a moral level, and I find it insulting in the extremes. How can you not use them then?

 

[StillStunned]

 

[THBGato]

Just don't call her the B-word

Oh God, yes! It really puts be off when women start insulting each other during sex scenes. Like, really? We get enough derogatory crap from men in real life, do their insults have to permeate Lesbian erotica too?

(Yes, I know some people have a humiliation kink. Not me.)