They Hate Us.

[oggbashan]

Come on Ogg, let's talk about today not past histories. There is only one religion in the world today practicing mass murder in the name of their religion. I'm just not all that concerned about that Seventh Day Adventist that lives on the corner.

Ishmael

There are other religions practicing mass murder in India, in SE Asia and in Africa.

The radical Muslims are doing more of it than the others, but they are not alone.

 

[Busybody]

There are other religions practicing mass murder in India, in SE Asia and in Africa.​

The radical Muslims are doing more of it than the others, but they are not alone.

bull shit

 

[KingOrfeo]

And for whom do you open your butt?

Just iggy it.

 

[Busybody]

That’s not what they say, that’s what you want them to say; they say they want to kill us to avenge (in their view) the “murder” of their fellow Muslims, the invasion of their lands and our constant interference in the internal affairs of Muslim countries.

Their words not mine.

How many regime changes, invasions and instances of direct support for regimes, that the people of a Muslim country don’t want, has there been by western Christian countries on Muslim countries? And vice a versa?




Woof!

how does THIS explain

India

Kenya

Thailand

Nigeria

etc

Indonesia

etc

 

[Busybody]

Come on Ogg, let's talk about today not past histories. There is only one religion in the world today practicing mass murder in the name of their religion. I'm just not all that concerned about that Seventh Day Adventist that lives on the corner.

Ishmael

you forgot

mass murder

on a GLOBAL BASIS on a DAILY BASIS

 

[Boxlicker101]

There are other religions practicing mass murder in India, in SE Asia and in Africa.

The radical Muslims are doing more of it than the others, but they are not alone.

Here is a list of massacres in India. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_India

None of the recent ones are even close to the mass murders carried out daily by Muslims.

ETA: Of course, we must never forget that Islam is a religion of peace.

 

[islandman]

Here is a list of massacres in India. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_India

None of the recent ones are even close to the mass murders carried out daily by Muslims.

ETA: Of course, we must never forget that Islam is a religion of peace.

You're guilty of recency bias.

Also, the person who coined the phrase "Islam is a religion of peach" probably worked for the Church during the Crusades.

 

[Boxlicker101]

You're guilty of recency bias.

Also, the person who coined the phrase "Islam is a religion of peach" probably worked for the Church during the Crusades.

If you go back far enough, you will find tens of millions of Hindus murdered by Muslims in what are now Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan.

 

[islandman]

If you go back far enough, you will find tens of millions of Hindus murdered by Muslims in what are now Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan.

You ran all the way to the 8th century while conveniently skipping past the First Crusade.

There's nothing like cherry-picking through history to demonstrate how weak of a point you're making.

Kudos to you.

 

[Boxlicker101]

You ran all the way to the 8th century while conveniently skipping past the First Crusade.

There's nothing like cherry-picking through history to demonstrate how weak of a point you're making.

Kudos to you.

They Crusades resulted from Moslems preying on Christian pilgrims to the Holy Land, particularly Bethlehem. By the time they started, the Muslims had already invaded Europe.

ETA: They began substantially after the 8th Century.

 

[islandman]

They Crusades resulted from Moslems preying on Christian pilgrims to the Holy Land, particularly Bethlehem. By the time they started, the Muslims had already invaded Europe.

ETA: They began substantially after the 8th Century.

You're right, I meant to say 13th.

If you're going to focus on recency, you only need to go as far back as the British occupation of India. 40 famines exacerbated by British mis-management with an estimated 60M dead.

Feel free to start a thread titled "We hate the Anglo-Saxons". Since you're a fan of cherry-picking through history.

 

[Busybody]

Here is a list of massacres in India. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_India

None of the recent ones are even close to the mass murders carried out daily by Muslims.

ETA: Of course, we must never forget that Islam is a religion of peace.

the last few were by MUSLIMS

 

[Busybody]

Yes,

BLAME US, WILL YA?

ISIS Calls For Attacks On Christians And Jews: “Break The Crosses And Destroy The Lineage of The Grandsons of Monkeys”…




Interfaith outreach.

Via MEMRI:


Following are excerpts from a video released by the Al-Hayat media center of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, which was posted on the Internet on June 2, 2014.

Titles flashing across screen in English: Oh soldiers of Truth, let’s go.

Repeat the tune of endurance.

A light has illuminated Shaam [the Levant],

so rally all the soldiers.

The Islamic state has been established,

so wipe out all the borders.

Wherever our wars goes,

Jewish rabbis are humiliated.

Oh soldiers of Truth, let’s go.

Repeat the tune of endurance.

A light has illuminated Shaam [the Levant],

so rally all the soldiers.

The Islamic state has been established,

so wipe out all the borders.

Wherever our wars goes,

Jewish rabbis are humiliated.

Break the crosses and destroy the lineage of the grandsons of monkeys.

The state of monotheism will remain in spite of the lies of the hateful people.

Oh soldiers of Truth, let’s go.

Repeat the tune of endurance.

A light has illuminated Shaam [the Levant],

so rally all the soldiers.

The Islamic state has been established,

so wipe out all the borders.

Wherever our wars goes,

Jewish rabbis are humiliated.

Oh soldiers of Truth, let’s go.

Repeat the tune of endurance.

A light has illuminated Shaam [the Levant],

so rally all the soldiers.

The Islamic state has been established,

so wipe out all the borders.

Wherever our wars goes,

Jewish rabbis are humiliated.

Break the crosses and destroy the lineage of the grandsons of monkeys.

The state of monotheism will remain in spite of the lies of the hateful people.

Oh soldiers of Truth, let’s go.

Repeat the tune of endurance

 

[Busybody]

There are other religions practicing mass murder in India, in SE Asia and in Africa.

The radical Muslims are doing more of it than the others, but they are not alone.

here you go

STOP TEH MADNESS

YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!


More Brits Signing Up To Fight With Jihadists In Iraq And Syria Than For The Army Reserve…




The UK is a mess.

Via Daily Mail:


More British citizens signed up to fight in Iraq and Syria than joined the Army Reserve last year, it can be revealed.

Just 170 extra reservists enlisted over the past year – despite a Government target to boost the stand-by force by 11,000 by 2018.

But at the same time the brutal al-Qaeda inspired ISIS forces tearing through Iraq have been boosted by ‘several hundred’ Brits, ministers told MailOnline.

Terror experts believe there could be as many as 500 Brits fighting alongside the jihadists in the Middle East for ISIS (Islamic State in Iraq and Syria).

A senior government minister said: ‘There is a real problem about people going in and being radicalised and then coming home. There are several hundred who have gone from Britain that we know of. It is a worry.

‘To get to Iraq most of them will have to go through Syria, so the two are connected.’

Foreign Secretary William Hague yesterday admitted Brit will ‘inevitably’ be fighting alongside ISIS which he called the ‘most violent and brutal militant group in the Middle East’.

He said the majority of Isis’ members were Iraqi or Syrian but ‘it also includes a significant number of foreign fighters among its ranks’

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Maybe we don't let Ish make decisions for us anymore?

Seriously wasn't Ish pretty smart once upon a time?

Old age and impotency in an era of internet access and progressive women's empowerment will do things to a man, I reckon.

 

[Busybody]

They DONT DARE call em ISLAMIC TERRORISTS

But they can SMEAR a HUGE SEGEMENT of AMERICANS

Howard Dean: Tea Party Wants To Go Back To Pre-Slavery Days, Hates Those Who “Don’t Look Like Them”…




How original.


HOWARD DEAN: You know, I think it’s much more complicated in some ways. The Tea Party are really frustrated, you know — if you’re 55 years old and you lost your job in the last recession, you either don’t have one now still or you’re making half of what you were before. They are seeing this enormous demographic shift. People who look like them don’t run the country anymore. The democratic party is this incredibly diverse party, they are not, the Tea Party. And so in their frustration they lash out and refuse to take seriously any solution of anybody. So I think that the establishment Republicans have got a tough row to hoe here. First of all, not only do they not have any solutions, there is no solution that will satisfy the Tea Party people except going back to the ’60s. I’m talking about the 1860s, not the 1960s.

 

[unregistered]

 

[Boxlicker101]

You're right, I meant to say 13th.

If you're going to focus on recency, you only need to go as far back as the British occupation of India. 40 famines exacerbated by British mis-management with an estimated 60M dead.

Feel free to start a thread titled "We hate the Anglo-Saxons". Since you're a fan of cherry-picking through history.

If I were to do that, I would have also included the potato famine in Ireland but this thread is about mass murders in the name of religion.

And I am well aware of the wars fought in Europe between Catholics and Protestants but they were nothing compared to the massacres perpetrated by Muslims.

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

Whatever happened to the indigenous people of North America?

 

[Boxlicker101]

They DONT DARE call em ISLAMIC TERRORISTS

But they can SMEAR a HUGE SEGEMENT of AMERICANS

Howard Dean: Tea Party Wants To Go Back To Pre-Slavery Days, Hates Those Who “Don’t Look Like Them”…

How original.

HOWARD DEAN: You know, I think it’s much more complicated in some ways. The Tea Party are really frustrated, you know — if you’re 55 years old and you lost your job in the last recession, you either don’t have one now still or you’re making half of what you were before. They are seeing this enormous demographic shift. People who look like them don’t run the country anymore. The democratic party is this incredibly diverse party, they are not, the Tea Party. And so in their frustration they lash out and refuse to take seriously any solution of anybody. So I think that the establishment Republicans have got a tough row to hoe here. First of all, not only do they not have any solutions, there is no solution that will satisfy the Tea Party people except going back to the ’60s. I’m talking about the 1860s, not the 1960s.

I wonder if Howard Dean is aware that slavery ended in the 1860's. It was mostly Republicans who ended it and Democrats who fought bitterly to continue the institution.

 

[Ishmael]

There are other religions practicing mass murder in India, in SE Asia and in Africa.

The radical Muslims are doing more of it than the others, but they are not alone.

Well, we've even had some Christian whack jobs over here, although I would tend to categorize more as 'insane' than Christian. I know that the Hindu's have practiced a little retribution against the Muslims, and every once in a while the Animists go on a rampage. But if you start throwing bodies on a scale, the Muslim handiwork on one side and ALL the rest on the other, you won't even begin to balance the beam.

Responding to your earlier post, yes, they do spend a lot of time killing each other when they don't have an external foe. The Reformation wars stretched out over 1400 years. They damn sure have long memories, don't they?

I understand where you're trying to go intellectually and on a case by case basis it can be said that there is an (im)moral equivalence between a Christian killing a Protestant or a Muslim killing a Christian, etc. But on the basis of the overall scale of what is taking place there is no equivalence to be found.

Ishmael

 

[islandman]

If I were to do that, I would have also included the potato famine in Ireland but this thread is about mass murders in the name of religion.

And I am well aware of the wars fought in Europe between Catholics and Protestants but they were nothing compared to the massacres perpetrated by Muslims.

The scale isn't the contention, but rather Ish's "selective" need to focus on the here and now while eschewing any culpability America in seeding and nurturing Muslims' hatred of us.

It's as though they all woke up one day and decided to hate us because of our rock'n'roll, if Ish is to be believed. It has nothing to do with U.S. support of oppressive rulers or dictating to them the proper way - social mores and norms - to live. Certainly it has nothing to do with our thirst for their oil, right?

Case in point, there have and continue to be countries in S. America who believe that the U.S. of A. stands for all things corrupt in the world. Yet none from there have boarded a plane or three and turned them into missiles. That's a special kind of hatred reflective of our own doings.

 

[oggbashan]

...I understand where you're trying to go intellectually and on a case by case basis it can be said that there is an (im)moral equivalence between a Christian killing a Protestant or a Muslim killing a Christian, etc. But on the basis of the overall scale of what is taking place there is no equivalence to be found.

Ishmael

There is - the Nazi Holocaust that attempted genocide of the Jews. The Holocaust killed more in a shorter period than any fanatical Muslims have managed. It was supposed to be extermination of the Jewish race, but the only real distinction was the Jewish religion.

Pol Pot, Chairman Mao and Stalin are up there with the Nazis - but were they doing it for 'religious' reasons?

 

[IrezumiKiss]

This country was born on two facets: slavery and genocide.

Until this country fully acknowledges its internal history of fuckery, the fears of aging (American) white males due to the threats to their entitlement and hegemony will never cease to drive its future. This very thread being a case in point.

"They" hate us.

We smell your fucking "they," shitstains. Continue suffering in your perpetual fear of the other.

 

[Skiddles2014]

They hate us.

Not because of our presidents, although they hate them too. Obama, Bush II, Clinton, Bush I, Reagan, Carter, Ford, and probably Nixon too. Although everyone hated Nixon so putting him on the list is redundant. The hate our weak presidents for being weak and our strong presidents for being strong.

They hate us.

They hate our foreign policy and they hate us for supporting Israel, but we could throw Israel under the bus tomorrow and they'd still hate us.

They hate us.

They hate you, they hate me, they hate everyone that posts on Lit. and they hate everyone that doesn't post on Lit. for tolerating those that do. They hate our music, magazines, TV, movies, and fashion. They hate everything about our culture. They hate us because our poor live like Sultans compared to their middle class. They hate themselves for being seduced by our culture and because self-loathing is an unsustainable state of mind they hate us even more for their own weakness.

They hate us.

They hate us for tolerating gay marriage, abortion, women's suffrage, and our crude language. They hate us for our democracies and our law.

They hate us.

There are 16 million of them with another 48 million in sympathy with them. Their only solution to the problem that is 'us' is our death and destruction.

They hate us.

So what is it that we are to do? We aren't going to change their minds, not in our lifetimes, or our children's, or our children's children's. What is the plan, and plan we must because;

They hate us.

Ishmael

Was this written by a democrats talking about republicans?