Things that Disqualify Democrat Candidates But Promote Republicans.

[justmethatswho]

Republican sexism -- Roe v. Wade
Republican racism -- Voter suppression / opposition to BLM, DEI, CRT, affirmative action, "Wokeness".

You're misinformed about the two parties' tax policies.

Republican Sexism:
-R vs. W was overturned by the Supreme Court. Also the Abortion issue, which is much more than simply sexism. Yes, I understand how it is viewed as sexist. Though I am not going to debate the A topic.
-Any other sexist policies?

Republican Racism:
-So as simple as I do not like the view regarding DEI and CRT, so it is racist.
-Affirmative action?
-Any examples of polices that are racist?
-Voter suppression, more people voted in the last presidential election than in history. In spite of a pandemic.

If I am misinformed on tax policies of the parties, please explain the differences. In many cases taxes proposed and passed by Democrats at the state level, hurt those with the least. Such as an increase in state sales tax or increase in licensing fees.

 

[justmethatswho]

Well, yes, you’re a MAGAt "republican" in sealion’s clothing, (a libertarian?) so any “reasonable honest debate” is a waste of OUR time.

A lot of name calling there. Should I be impressed?

 

[Bn2f]

Paris accord:
-Getting out was better than staying in. Staying in binds the hands of America and businesses to be successful, crippling them with unfair taxes and regulations. The accord creates an imbalance in the playing field of international business. Unless you get India and China on board, whatever the rest of the world does is little more than feel good and self congratulating back pats.

North Korea:
-The little guy quit launching missiles toward Japan until about mid 2021.

Healthcare:
-Complicated matter, though see Obama legacy for raise in costs.

Influencing Policy:
-He can have an opinion, it is America after all, though should probably stay out.

Sorry. Thought you had left.

The Paris accords, NK, healthcare and I should include the Iran nuclear deal as well are all examples of trump giving a twofold promise to each: I will tear up and give you back something better. He did not. Anyone can tear things down but he claimed to be the art of the deal business maker. He never was, never has been, and can’t ever be. The short term business gains that you are advocating for has left our renewable energy business interest still behind China and India. The market there is a marathon, fossil energy is not sustainable. Japan does not feel any safer today. Iran is on the verge, according to scientists, to having nuclear capabilities any day now. Obamacare is the Republican plan, they and trump have no replacement and they would do well to embrace and strengthen.

 

[Bn2f]

Paris accord:
-Getting out was better than staying in. Staying in binds the hands of America and businesses to be successful, crippling them with unfair taxes and regulations. The accord creates an imbalance in the playing field of international business. Unless you get India and China on board, whatever the rest of the world does is little more than feel good and self congratulating back pats.

North Korea:
-The little guy quit launching missiles toward Japan until about mid 2021.

Healthcare:
-Complicated matter, though see Obama legacy for raise in costs.

Influencing Policy:
-He can have an opinion, it is America after all, though should probably stay out.

I am asking to give examples of trump accomplishments. If you feel reneging on treaties is an accomplishment then we can end this there.

 

[justmethatswho]

Sorry. Thought you had left.

The Paris accords, NK, healthcare and I should include the Iran nuclear deal as well are all examples of trump giving a twofold promise to each: I will tear up and give you back something better. He did not. Anyone can tear things down but he claimed to be the art of the deal business maker. He never was, never has been, and can’t ever be. The short term business gains that you are advocating for has left our renewable energy business interest still behind China and India. The market there is a marathon, fossil energy is not sustainable. Japan does not feel any safer today. Iran is on the verge, according to scientists, to having nuclear capabilities any day now. Obamacare is the Republican plan, they and trump have no replacement and they would do well to embrace and strengthen.

I did have lunch. Thanks for missing me.

I do not think Iran was following much of any agreement, regardless of who it was with. So what good was any agreement with them. Though, ship them a plane for of cash on pallets and they will play nice and smile for a day or two as they go about their business as usual.

China's long term goal is to overcome the US, playing nice with them plays into that goal. Unfortunately we play the game day by day, while they are patient and play for years ahead. The US is capable of taking a lead on green energy if we would simply get out of our own way. Yet thru policy and the thought of saving a nickel on a connector, well like I said, the US is its own worse problem.

I have not been updated on how secure Japan feels, though I would think the lack of missiles being launched their way would make then sleep a bit better.

Huh, what, Obama care is now a Republican plan. Oh shit, then, it is the greatest thing ever, not. At least take ownership of Obama and his health care plan. At least under Trump they eliminated the uninsured tax penalty.

 

[Bn2f]

I did have lunch. Thanks for missing me.

I do not think Iran was following much of any agreement, regardless of who it was with. So what good was any agreement with them. Though, ship them a plane for of cash on pallets and they will play nice and smile for a day or two as they go about their business as usual.

China's long term goal is to overcome the US, playing nice with them plays into that goal. Unfortunately we play the game day by day, while they are patient and play for years ahead. The US is capable of taking a lead on green energy if we would simply get out of our own way. Yet thru policy and the thought of saving a nickel on a connector, well like I said, the US is its own worse problem.

I have not been updated on how secure Japan feels, though I would think the lack of missiles being launched their way would make then sleep a bit better.

Huh, what, Obama care is now a Republican plan. Oh shit, then, it is the greatest thing ever, not. At least take ownership of Obama and his health care plan. At least under Trump they eliminated the uninsured tax penalty.

No. Iran had allowed UN inspectors in, and according to our own intelligence, they were complying with treaty.

I think that on China, you are making the argument that because they have a leader who has consolidated power until he chooses to cede it gives them an advantage. That’s fair of you to believe. I, on the other hand, WW believe an onus on smarter American anywhere leadership. That is not Trump and his America first plan. And that is not giving businesses short term tax breaks.

I’m honestly not being rude here, but if you don’t know that Obamacare is based on a Republican plan then we should not talk healthcare at all. I would pound you over the head anyway, as I would to any Republican, with the lie of replace - ya know, from the still waiting on repeal and replace. .

 

[justmethatswho]

I am asking to give examples of trump accomplishments. If you feel reneging on treaties is an accomplishment then we can end this there.

-Right to try
-Controlling the border
-Tax Cuts
-Reduced regulations
-Energy independence
-Tariffs on China imports
-Lower unemployment and new manufacturing jobs
-Supreme Court (Now this may trigger some)

Now the last several months, covid affected unemployment and jobs. Yet, anyone in office would have had those issues.

 

[Bn2f]

Honestly, let’s end this here. Because repeal and replacing Obamacare is the perfect ending spot. You’ve not provided me with anything that Trump has to tout. I’m not really blaming you for this. Republicans themselves have no answers or legislative success.

 

[justmethatswho]

Honestly, let’s end this here. Because repeal and replacing Obamacare is the perfect ending spot. You’ve not provided me with anything that Trump has to tout. I’m not really blaming you for this. Republicans themselves have no answers or legislative success.

I am good with ending this.

But give me a few things Biden has done, that really move the needle. And Democrat legislative success.

 

[Bn2f]

-Right to try
-Controlling the border
-Tax Cuts
-Reduced regulations
-Energy independence
-Tariffs on China imports
-Lower unemployment and new manufacturing jobs
-Supreme Court (Now this may trigger some)

Now the last several months, covid affected unemployment and jobs. Yet, anyone in office would have had those issues.

Right to try? What does that mean?
He never controlled the border. He gave false promises.
Almost 80% of his tax cuts went to the rich. The ones that went to the middle class sunsetted. You are a Trumper. You are not any kind of independent or libertarian. I’m losing patience with you.

 

[Bn2f]

I am good with ending this.

But give me a few things Biden has done, that really move the needle. And Democrat legislative success.

I have. I did. I can give more: the infrastructure bill. CHPs act. He’s created more jobs than the last three Republican presidents combined. Record low unemployment. He promised American troops out of Afghanistan and he did it. Student debt relief. He’s appointed more black female judges than Obama. His cabinet is more diverse than Obama‘s. His vice president sleeps without fear of being hung. His recent executive order will shut down the southern border, something I don’t agree with, but it’s something that’s been on the conservative Christmas wish list.

 

[KeithD]

Did I defend Trump in any of my posts in this thread. If so, please show me.

My point is that those who think they stand on a mountain top of purity are looking straight across at Trump.

It is easy to see the errors of others and easily look past those we choose to.

You used the distraction technique to try to cover for Trump. Who do you think you're fooling?

 

[justmethatswho]

Right to try? What does that mean?
He never controlled the border. He gave false promises.
Almost 80% of his tax cuts went to the rich. The ones that went to the middle class sunsetted. You are a Trumper. You are not any kind of independent or libertarian. I’m losing patience with you.

Right to try, say you have the big C, there is an experimental drug that shows promise, but has not yet been approved. It is the right to try the drug.

As for the border, what is control then. Certainly not the last 3 years.

Tax Cuts, the sun does not set on the tax cuts until the end of 2025. The middle class taxes were cut. Rich people do pay a lot of taxes so yes, i agree they also had their taxes cut. Dollar for Daollar the rich or those making 40k all had their taxes cut.


OK, tell me how Biden has made the world better. Or don't I don't need to continue.

 

[Guillermo54]

Republicans open protect private property rights, Democrats can’t.

 

[justmethatswho]

You used the distraction technique to try to cover for Trump. Who do you think you're fooling?

Oh shit, did I? I figured as part of the Dem's play book it is ok. Let me look, yep, right after name calling, distraction.

I am so so soooo sorry, if I did that.

 

[Bn2f]

Right to try, say you have the big C, there is an experimental drug that shows promise, but has not yet been approved. It is the right to try the drug.

As for the border, what is control then. Certainly not the last 3 years.

Right to try? What are you talking about? I like my drugs FDA approved and also, this happened just last month!

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/29/congress-is-killing-bidens-cancer-moonshot-00154718

You nor Republicans are serious about stemming immigrants coming in on our southern border or asylum seekers. America, Republicans and Democrats, will signal to me that they are getting serious about this when they start arresting business CEO’s such as Trump who use the labor of immigrants In lieu of paying the minimum wage.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Oh shit, did I? I figured as part of the Dem's play book it is ok. Let me look, yep, right after name calling, distraction.

I am so so soooo sorry, if I did that.

As we said from the beginning … you’re a Trump supporter who only claimed both parties were equally bad to distract from the fact that the Republicans are a pack of crooks and traitors.

No one is claiming that the Democrats are all saints. They’re just not plates of dogshit.

 

[Bn2f]

Republicans open protect private property rights, Democrats can’t.

Yet another general statement. I am waiting on Trump accomplishments.

 

[Bray123]

Trump pushed through the vaccine in record speed and awarded Dr. Fauci a Presidential Commendation as one of the last actions of his Presidency.

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.go...tial-commendations-operation-warp-speed-team/

 

[Guillermo54]

Yet another general statement. I am waiting on Trump accomplishments.

Not interested… find me one dem who would protect a mineral rights owner’s right to engage with an oil company to extract the resources they own.

 

[Bn2f]

Not interested… find me one dem who would protect a mineral rights owner’s right to engage with an oil company to extract the resources they own.

Not interested.
My gloves are off. I could give a rats fuck about engaging with anyone from the starting point that corporations are people too.

 

[Guillermo54]

Not interested.
My gloves are off. I could give a rats fuck about engaging with anyone from the starting point that corporations are people too.

It is strange how I talk about property rights and you deflect to corporations. Typical.

 

[justmethatswho]

As we said from the beginning … you’re a Trump supporter who only claimed both parties were equally bad to distract from the fact that the Republicans are a pack of crooks and traitors.

No one is claiming that the Democrats are all saints. They’re just not plates of dogshit.

No where have I said I support Trump. The assumption is I do, because I question the blind allegiance of the Democrats.

"No one is claiming that the Democrats are all saints. They’re just not plates of dogshit." This is hardly a nice comment democrats. Note, those are your words not mine. Not a very high standard to hold the Dems to, being just bettr than dog shit.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

No where have I said I support Trump. The assumption is I do, because I question the blind allegiance of the Democrats.

"No one is claiming that the Democrats are all saints. They’re just not plates of dogshit." This is hardly a nice comment democrats. Note, those are your words not mine. Not a very high standard to hold the Dems to, being just bettr than dog shit.

I’m a Democrat and I voted for Joe Biden in 2020, I’ll proudly vote for him again in 2024. Who do you support?

 

[Bn2f]

It is strange how I talk about property rights and you deflect to corporations. Typical.

You may have missed me stating that I am pro union. I do not care about mineral rights. If you, as a private landowner, are sitting on a chunk of oil like Jed Clampett, then you would be a fool not to get proper legal representation in negotiations. Republicans still talk about drill baby drill. Why would you care about private ownership rights over the interest of big business? Also, how does this apply to trump accomplishments?