This one is for the guys with short rods

Amen, sister!!!

When it comes down to PIV sex, it is short-sighted (pun intended) to say that size doesn't matter. Yes, you can awesome, mind-blowing sexual "experiences" with a partner who has a small cock.... But, speaking from experience, a dick that is less than three inches long is not going to provide enough stimulation during actual PIV sex.

And maybe I'm just a dirty girl, but I would MUCH rather suck a bigger cock than a smaller one. Just my humble opinion; to each, his own.

I'll be the politically incorrect, honest one...

A guy can be as smooth as silk, say all the right things, touch all the right places, but if he's got the short end of the stick, it matters...and can make you feel like you're having sex with a prepubescent kid...which is fine if you're into that sort of thing...but not me.

I want him to sport a man sized cock. I'm cool with those averages but whoever tried to be sparing and PC saying that a micro dick owner could be a good lover should get out more. No way.

Size does matter...but it's also how it's used. Too little, there's no pleasure, it's awkward, it's not stimulating anything, there's no sensation of being filled up and it feels weird more than nice....too big and it's too painful, awkward, then it feels like you'll end up needing stitches. Same for the ones with the curved penis where he's got to bend it in you sideways - that's also painful without having to contort ourselves to accommodate it.

It's not the same issue as tits on a female. That's aesthetic, you're not using them for direct stimulation. The penis' role is direct stimulation and when it comes to intercourse, yes, a guy really can be too small that it makes intercourse pointless for pleasure purposes (he can still impregnate, but I'm assuming we're talking pleasure)...and if you have to rely on a dozen other things to get stimulation and pleasure, then it's never quite the same, and she knows something's lacking (even if she's lying to herself, and many would).

The same would be a female who is so loose and with lax muscle control there is nothing to grip around the penis, it's like fucking an empty space which doesn't work for direct stimulation either, or a woman who is so tight he can't get it in without discomfort.

There are always exceptions and guys with some deformity or some such thing, women too, but in general, guys are usually well enough endowed that there isn't anything to fret over - it's usually all in their own heads and they think they're small when they're probably not.
 
Optional? Well, I assumed that was part of the point of the OP - and lovemaking that includes penetration via penis. Otherwise, it's just making out.

I don't see the cock as optional but a requirement (unless it's making out) and even two chicks getting it on invariably whip out the monster dildo for penetration because, lesbian or not, they know a big thick naughty dildo feels tons better than some chick's skinny fingers :D

And congrats on your big breath taking dick. Direct a girl to the gallery to have a look! :D

That's funny. You've mentioned twice that your opinions and desires are everyone's opinions and desires. I think you're the one who needs to get out more.

Not every woman loves big dicks. Not every lesbian whips out huge dildos. You're either waching too much porn and taking it for "real sex" OR you think that your sexual responses are the ONLY possible sexual responses for every single female on the planet, all 3.5 BILLION of us.

Sorry sister, it don't work that way. I get off more often with my husband's fingers inside me than his dick. I *prefer* clitoral stimulation above ALL ELSE. And no, that's not just "making out". Your narrowminded viewpoint about what "real sex" is shows your lack of sexual maturity and experience glaringly.
 
I think Ms Nikki is probably trolling and man bashing. In another thread, she's bragging about how she's getting divorced. ;)

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?p=39305154#post39305154
I can't speak for Illinois, but happen to be going through a divorce at the moment and this issue has come up.

Unless it's a state mandate, the way it usually works is if either party in the divorce requests it. So, you file the papers on the other spouse who then has X amount of days to file a response with the court. In my case it's 20 days. If it's state to state, 30. Yours may vary. If there is a response, that would be where the party served can include in the response a request for counseling. The judge would make a decision and usually signs off on it (particularly if kids are involved). If there is no response, default judgment is filed giving the other party another 10 days, at which point if there is no response, the petitioner is usually awarded all that was asked for in the petition - which could likewise have included a request for marriage counseling. It would be more likely, given the timeframes, that the counseling is done before a divorce is granted, and be based on when these particular filings occur and which party does it.

An easy route is to google search divorce procedures and marriage counseling in your state, or visit your particular county's clerk of court for the online divorce info - it'll be in there for sure.

Hope it helps!
Not me. I'm so enjoying crucifying his loser ass :D
 
I'll be the politically incorrect, honest one...

A guy can be as smooth as silk, say all the right things, touch all the right places, but if he's got the short end of the stick, it matters...and can make you feel like you're having sex with a prepubescent kid...which is fine if you're into that sort of thing...but not me.

I want him to sport a man sized cock. I'm cool with those averages but whoever tried to be sparing and PC saying that a micro dick owner could be a good lover should get out more. No way.
It appears it's YOU who needs to "get out more," or at the very least quit generalizing, being closed-minded and getting your information from porn.

I haven't been with a ton of men, but I have been with enough to know for a fact that cock size in and of itself has ZERO bearing on what kind of a lover a man is. I've been with men with very small cocks who are incredible lovers and larger cocks who are lousy lovers. It all has to do with the guy's attitude, experience, willingness to pleasure his partner and his partner's viewpoints. For instance, let's say a guy is too small to provide enough friction for a lot of physical pleasure during PiV sex. There's absolutely no reason we can't use fingers and toys to satisfy my desire for g-spot stimulation or whatever; in fact, those things are likely to do a far better job at providing the type of stimulation I enjoy than ANY cock.

My experience (and that of most others, it seems) is that fantastic lovers come in all sizes, period.

Optional? Well, I assumed that was part of the point of the OP - and lovemaking that includes penetration via penis. Otherwise, it's just making out.

I don't see the cock as optional but a requirement (unless it's making out) and even two chicks getting it on invariably whip out the monster dildo for penetration because, lesbian or not, they know a big thick naughty dildo feels tons better than some chick's skinny fingers :D
Your definition of "lovemaking" or "sex" appears to be that of people who are way too young to be engaged in sexual activity and those who like to justify their activities for religious reasons and such.

Are you really going to try to tell those of us who are bisexual women and lesbians that we don't make love to/fuck other women because there's no penile penetration involved?

Again, based on my experience, I can say with absolute certainty that people can have sex without penile penetration. There's oral sex, manual stimulation, fingering, mutual masturbation, using toys together, rubbing genitals together, and a whole host of other activities that go well beyond "making out" and absolutely constitute lovemaking or having sex.

I've NEVER used a dildo with any of my female partners, either. Would I? Sure, but it's wholly unnecessary from my standpoint because there are so many other wonderful things to do with other women that don't involve anything that resembles a cock.

Feel free to speak for yourself, but you have absolutely no business speaking for me, defining or putting down my experiences, preferences and views. You have every right to believe and say that cocks of a certain size are necessary for YOU to enjoy sex, but don't delude yourself into thinking your views are somehow representative of the population at large, or even accurate at all regarding how women have sex and such.
 
unfortanetly my man has a short rod, and for us it means we only have two basic positions we cant even do it from behind because he cant reach in and he is curved too so even if he could i dont think it would fit right

im sorry i dont have any help other then to just make what you can do amazing between the two of you
 
Since some women can only reach orgasm through direct clitoral stimulation, a smaller penis is absolutely no issue for us.

So, really, no tips necessary. Focus on the clit. Everything else is secondary.

true story here i came faster with my smaller ex then I do with one who is endowed i still cum of course just the direct stimulation made me cum very fast.
 
There are so many ways to make a woman cum, cock size doent matter. The only problem is when the guy is made to feel inadequite. I love giving oral, and fingering, fisting, and my cock is average
 
speaking for Mrs K

second hand information: Mrs K told me bout a fella she dated with a small willie. The fist touch through his pants, gave her bit of a start. she thought maybe he was wearing boxers... nope. dispite his lack of size in that area, she said he was a confident person. though the lack of penetration was a bummer. sucking him was o.k., his oral was, of course very nice....
When she broke up with him, he never said: is it my small cock....

I guess a smaller cock would be good for a ladies first anal....

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A question for the ladies or guys for all that matters. What do you consider to be a short rod? A large rod?
What is the average male penis, something like 5.5 inches?
 
It really depends on what you mean as "smaller." The average is somewhere around 5.5 to 6 depending on the study. The standard deviation is about an inch and statistical significance is often considered to be be outside of 2 . Assuming we go with 5.5 inches that means if you pulled down 100 random guys' pants and got them hard, about 96 of them would have cocks between 3.5 and 7.5 inches and 68 of them would be between 4.5 and 6.5 inches. That leaves 2 that are under 3.5 inches and 2 that are bigger than 7.5 inches.
 
The question was, what do you consider short to be? Irregardless of what the statistics say, I was looking for your opinion. Some may say that to them 5.5 is short, others may say that 4 inches is to short.
And yes I as an adult do understand that anything under the average is considered smaller.....
 
Maybe under 4.5 inches would be small to me? I'm not totally sure. It's hard to remember and I'm not hung up on size. I don't think I've been with anyone who was smaller than 5 (it feels so silly to me to even be typing numbers like this, because there is so much more to it than penis length). I know I've never been with anyone that I felt was too small. I have had some dull and/or uncomfortable experiences with some men that to me at the time felt too big.
 
Im right at 7in now, have actually lost some size since my younger years. There are some positions that my wife doesn't like because of to much penetration. She doesn't see how some women want a man with a 10 incher.
 
The question was, what do you consider short to be? Irregardless of what the statistics say, I was looking for your opinion. Some may say that to them 5.5 is short, others may say that 4 inches is to short.
And yes I as an adult do understand that anything under the average is considered smaller.....

this is what sometimes confuses me about these topics. short is subjective and i often think people are referring to big vs average and smaller when in fact they are talking about micro size / 3 inches
 
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