Through Him I Have Discovered Freedom

[CutieMouse]

Catalina! I'm shocked at you! *SHOCKED*

You, moderator of this forum, who claims to be a slave, not reading, absorbing, worshiping, and regurgitating flowery doormat-drivel? Do you not realize that we become more enlightened as we [buy into] embrace posts such as this one, and allow the [mindless] romantic rose colored "the world would be so much better if we all had someone to call Lord in our lives!" glurge to guide us? For SHAME Cat!

To the OP-

I'm sure you are very happy with your partner. I'm glad you have found your own path to enlightenment, or whatever it is you are seeking. Yay. Happiness. I hope the whip fairy brings you lots of presents.

But your post is kind of like walking into a cocktail party where you don't know a single soul, and trying to become well respected by spouting off a more enlightened/educated/whatever opinion about the main topic of conversation, in any little cluster of people you try to mingle with. It's boorish.

Now, the OP did put thought into her self-assigned-look-at-me-I'm-the-subbiest essay thing, that is obvious. (Might I suggest a blog, next time?) She also made passing references to history, politics, and Sartre, which means she might be an interetesting person to get to know, and be able to offer some unique perspectives on the Lifestyle. Maybe. It might be nice to get to know the OP, without all the flowery language, but I'm not sure she'll be back...

 

[catalina_francisco]

Catalina! I'm shocked at you! *SHOCKED*

I know, I know....see, I am just human like the rest of you and more then likely to fail from time to time after all!!

(Might I suggest a blog, next time?)

You might, just don't put it here as a thread, please....there are far better places in cyber land to post daily diarys, journals and blogs and saves those of us who are not that into knowing every thought, action and event in someone else's life the guilt or bother of skipping over it (or me having to attempt to read or skim it to make sure it is moderator proof ). It would be nice if the OP continued to contribute in a more BDSM Talk/Cafe way and get to know us and let us get to know them, but you never know with these things. Many come and leave with complaints about newbie bashing when the red carpet is not immediately rolled out accompanied by spotlights and cameras....they just don't realise that here everyone is a star with equal rating. And I am sorry for those who think it should be otherwise, especially from a lowly slave such as myself, but I don't put Dominants above the rest here, or men for that matter.....of course Marquis is exempt from that as he is a special co-mod, we know he is Dominant, and we know he is all man, what can I say??!!

Catalina

 

[Netzach]

With the number of members that are on this site – I find it rather odd that you would take it upon yourself to expect me to get to know them before I make a post. I would certainly hope that amongst all these great members that there are people who are actually polite and courteous to ‘newbies’ much unlike yourself. And no, I am not playing the ‘victim’ role – I am better than that. I am just simply stating a fact. I have just as much of a right to post my thoughts on this site as anyone else does. I did not realize when I joined that I had to run my posts by you. How is that for a meaningful response? Thank you and btw – sweetest of dreams.

Uhhh if you don't want to "run it by" anyone don't post it.

I didn't read it either, got the jist. Generally how we're misleading ourselves if we think life should be about more than pleasing Our Man and making lots of babies or something. Didn't this go out in like 1820?

Whatever, I'm just glad I was born after pennicilin and anasthesia and the internet and so was my fantasy life.

 

[shy slave]

I got as far as her calling him 'Lord' and stopped reading.

I may be a lapsed Catholic but some things are hard to shift out of my brain cells.

Calling any mortal 'Lord' rates as one of those things

 

[CutieMouse]

I got as far as her calling him 'Lord' and stopped reading.

I may be a lapsed Catholic but some things are hard to shift out of my brain cells.

Calling any mortal 'Lord' rates as one of those things

At least you have a understandable reason for it...

My brain simply does not wrap around calling anyone Master, Mistress, or Lord. I can understand Sir, M'am, or Miss in the right time and place, but the title thing (in general) just make me raise an eyebrow and move on. I can not wrap my head around submitting to someone, who feels need to grant themselves a title. (Shall we add this to the long list of reasons Cutie is single? Why yes, lets!)

 

[Netzach]

I got as far as her calling him 'Lord' and stopped reading.

I may be a lapsed Catholic but some things are hard to shift out of my brain cells.

Calling any mortal 'Lord' rates as one of those things

The British did have to BRUTALLY colonize you folk to get you to do that as I recall.

 

[ammre]

Oh, wow, Ammre, you read that thing. And I can't believe she wrote this. But she did indeed.
I officially want to correct my last post. I don't want to get to know you any better, His_littlemiss. I don't like people who tell me what I am, have to do, should feel, because I'm a woman.

Hah, i didn't mean to. I was scrolling down to see other's responses in hopes that i woulnd't have to in order to get the gist, but that paragraph about women caught my attention, and so i read it to make sure i wasne't missing something or overlooking something. I mean the entire thing is not about "blah blah women must submit" but for the most part the rest of it is cited drivel.


Catalina- cheers to you. I mean, soemthing i've made blatently clear is i'm a sub but i'm an agressive one. unless you're the right person and you've got the trust and what not from me, you get no submissiveness from me. Even once i find someone i want to submit to, i will still be a very active partner.

shy slave- I thought that too "The lord and thy savior!" that and lord as in lords and ladies... (I do mideavl reenactments, even if i can't spell it.)

 

[His_pita]

At least you have a understandable reason for it...

My brain simply does not wrap around calling anyone Master, Mistress, or Lord. I can understand Sir, M'am, or Miss in the right time and place, but the title thing (in general) just make me raise an eyebrow and move on. I can not wrap my head around submitting to someone, who feels need to grant themselves a title. (Shall we add this to the long list of reasons Cutie is single? Why yes, lets!)

BRAVO!! I have issues with that as well. My Joe and I were just talking other day about titles. Our local munch group thinks we should put out a list of proper etiquette for the newbies. Cracks me up that people just can't be people with decent manners. Protocol is so full of it in my opinion unless it is kept private for the couple who wants that sort of thing. Don't impose it on me however.

To the OP. Sorry, but you deserved it. As a newbie to a forum it is your duty to look around and pick of the vibe of the place. You should have posted on some existing threads. Found out who the main people are and how they feel about things. You would have found out quickly that a thread like this would only give us something to laugh about it. I do hope you do pick up your hurt feelings and come back to play. We really don't bite much.

 

[callinectes]

Oh my. I opened this thread because the title made absolute sense to me. But once I started reading...ahh..not so much.

Not to mention..As I started reading, I thought I had stumbled on a Christian message board. My Lord?

 

[Etoile]

Whoaaaaaaaaaa.........you didn't even bother to lurk did you. I know its not mandatory btw that you should. However if you had you may have picked up a few basic traits that Etoile is very consistent with and that is being courteous , friendly and a great moderator for the well being of all involved. I would be a happy woman if I could raise 50% of her diplomacy at times.

Diplomacy is not really a strong point for you I fear. Good luck with the essay you have in fact put a significant number of people offside I would imagine not only by your evident attitude but by attempting to marginalise a rather popular member of the Literotica Community.

Oh my goodness...you have just about made me cry, in a good way. Thank you so much.

 

[Kajira Callista]

hmmmm judgemental
hmmmmm is this still the bdsm forum...or did i make a wrong turn someplace?

 

[Netzach]

hmmmm judgemental
hmmmmm is this still the bdsm forum...or did i make a wrong turn someplace?

Evidently you gotta hook right on the biological determinism forum.

I don't imagine I could post about female superiority without anyone rightfully laughing my ass back to where I came from.

 

[Kajira Callista]

Evidently you gotta hook right on the biological determinism forum.

I don't imagine I could post about female superiority without anyone rightfully laughing my ass back to where I came from.

I would never laugh at you.
*shrug*
I think a lot of what was written was by a very submissive hearted person. Word choices, in my opinion could have been better, but oh well. As for net etiquette...not everyone gets that right away.
I also think that if anyone who has posted here got jumped on for a post they would have defended themselves and had a whole lot of others defending them too.

 

[JMohegan]

As I started reading, I thought I had stumbled on a Christian message board. My Lord?

The varied reactions that people have to language are fascinating, aren't they?

I am not a religious person, and God never enters my mind when I hear someone refer to a mate as "my Lord".

To me, a Dom referred to as "Lord" is no different than a Domme referred to as "Lady". These are titles that are pretentious in many contexts, but no different that "Master" or "Mistress" in others.

My brain simply does not wrap around calling anyone Master, Mistress, or Lord. I can understand Sir, M'am, or Miss in the right time and place, but the title thing (in general) just make me raise an eyebrow and move on.

I know many people who are not into the "title thing" either, including me. One of the problems is that the terms are thrown around so casually, and by so many rear-end-kissers, that they start to leave a bad taste in your mouth.

Though I understand that ritual, culture, and tradition are important for many people, it has been decades since I have welcomed being referred to as "Sir" - even by a partner in a D/s relationship. (Except in jest, of course. )

 

[A Desert Rose]

I would never laugh at you.
*shrug*
I think a lot of what was written was by a very submissive hearted person. Word choices, in my opinion could have been better, but oh well. As for net etiquette...not everyone gets that right away.
I also think that if anyone who has posted here got jumped on for a post they would have defended themselves and had a whole lot of others defending them too.

Not in my case. Only once or twice has someone here come to my defense. This is all about who you are and not what you post.

I read a very small portion of this thread yesterday before I left for work and my first thought was very much along the lines of etoile's. And I hesitated before posting and then thought... Nah. I'll just get my ass reamed for being unwelcoming and unkind to yet another new poster. It'll just be another case of "she's just a bitch."

But I'm happy so many have come to etoile's defense on this matter. She, as well as I or anyone else, has the right to an opinion... especially one that makes sense.

Like everyone else who has posted, I applaud her.

 

[Xelebes]

I got as far as her calling him 'Lord' and stopped reading.

I may be a lapsed Catholic but some things are hard to shift out of my brain cells.

Calling any mortal 'Lord' rates as one of those things

What of the Peerage?

 

[Etoile]

Not in my case. Only once or twice has someone here come to my defense. This is all about who you are and not what you post.

I read a very small portion of this thread yesterday before I left for work and my first thought was very much along the lines of etoile's. And I hesitated before posting and then thought... Nah. I'll just get my ass reamed for being unwelcoming and unkind to yet another new poster. It'll just be another case of "she's just a bitch."

But I'm happy so many have come to etoile's defense on this matter. She, as well as I or anyone else, has the right to an opinion... especially one that makes sense.

Like everyone else who has posted, I applaud her.

Okay, I'm gonna go sit in the corner and glow for a few minutes. Thank you so much.

Because, to be honest, I was surprised at myself when I was posting. In my head, a voice was saying "what are you doing? this isn't you. you don't talk like this." But it was late and I was tired, and another voice in my head was saying "screw that, I'm gonna call it like I see it." 98% of the time, I am a peacemaker, it's a natural trait, it's how I am. But damn, 2% of the time, I just gotta put it out there.

 

[A Desert Rose]

I have to wonder how old she is and how much (if this is her first 'Lord') experience she has had. (Now someone please jump on my ass for that statement. please.)

As much as I've read, she has an interesting perspective, albeit nothing in common with mine. She seems to revel in the submission she has given this fella and that's all fine and good for them.

Apparently unlike most here, I marvel at people who register and IMMEDIATELY begin posting. It certainly brings their sincerity and genuineness (and yes, that is a word. I looked it up) into question, not to mention their possible alt-ness. (That's a new word and I take total claim to it. So, back off... it's mine.) Although, I'm fairly sure she's not an alt.

From past experineces, most of us who post here, lurked for a time before
plunging in and posting and certainly not plunging in like this belly flop of hers seems to be.

But fuck... I don't really know shit about anything. So, happy happy joy joy to her and her 'Lord'.

 

[Etoile]

alt-ness. (That's a new word and I take total claim to it. So, back off... it's mine.)

Well damn, I can't exactly use alt-itude, can I? That already means something else!

'Lord'.

I'm all for people having the right to choose their own terminology and all that...but personally, the only PYL name that's funnier to me than my Lord is my Liege. Ha!

 

[CutieMouse]

*quietly pounces on ADR's cute ass for saying the Lord-whatever-it-was thing she commented on*

Better?

 

[CutieMouse]

For some reason My Liege makes me think of the plauge, and ooky stuff running from the nose.

(I have been dealing with work and Photoshop for far far too long today...)

 

[A Desert Rose]

Well damn, I can't exactly use alt-itude, can I? That already means something else!

I'm all for people having the right to choose their own terminology and all that...but personally, the only PYL name that's funnier to me than my Lord is my Liege. Ha!

Yes, Liege is pretty awful, I agree.

Alt-itude works just fine. Like the word draw, it can have several meanings depending on the sentence it's used in.

Alt-itude... it's all yours, etoile!!!

 

[JMohegan]

but personally, the only PYL name that's funnier to me than my Lord is my Liege. Ha!

Again, I find this fascinating.

Is "Lady Aria" as amusing to you as "Lord So-and-So"?

If not, why not?

 

[RJMasters]

I read it and here are my honest thoughts about it and about that which followed.

I think this was written in that "honeymoonish" type of euphoria. For the person who wrote it, I can see that is has a lot of personal meaning. I know many women who struggle with what society pushes on to them via the more "radical/militant" feministic views. I can see the resentment being expressed from a person who finally made a realization for herself, that she had bought into what many believe are the lies of feminism. It is clear that now she feels the only way to set right what has been wrong in her own life, is to now advocating the 180 position and trying to help other women who she thinks are no doubt confused and trapped as she once was.

My recommendation is as follows. Enjoy your own happiness, but do not make the mistake that "one size fits all". The feminist movement is about opportunity. For many women, taking hold of that opportunity with both hands and living their lives independantly is the key to their happiness and freedom. For others, its the freedom to let that opportunity pass in favor of something more satisfying to them. I do not like militant feminist chastising other women who make such a decision, but I equaly do not approve of someone who judges wrongly women who have the courage to grab life by the balls and live it on their own terms. In my opinion it takes courage either way to choose what makes one own self happy and appropriate respect should be given either way.

As to what followed...what a mess.

 

[O'Mac]

I actually thought she meant "Lord" in a religious sense as well and I did a bit of a double-take when I saw it.

It's cool though, I know of a few Christians, Jews, Muslims, and other people of faith who are into the whole BDSM thing. I'm one of them in fact.

I don't think I could ever take a person seriously if they were called Lord as part of scene. Over here, the proper way to address a judge is to refer to them as "your Lordship".

Wow, who knew the judicary was so kinky.