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Trump causes scientists to flee the U.S.

Trust me when I say, these blowhards aren’t going anywhere. They’ll never leave their ivory towers and cushy jobs, especially if the research money trough is still getting filled.
 
Rebel5soul said:
"Scientist's" implies more than one. We need a list.
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The article only deals with two by name. The other is:

By leaving during Trump’s first term, the emeritus Trenberth found one drastic but simple solution to the problem, which was to simply no longer reside in America. Thirtysomething Rose Abramoff, who started as a forest ecologist and also studies climate change, biogeochemistry and land management, arrived at the same conclusion as Trenberth, but with a critical difference: She later came back.

“During the first Trump administration, I was working at a large national laboratory based on the West Coast as a postdoc,” Abramoff recalled, referring to Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in Alameda, California. When Trump won the presidency, however, Abramoff saw that scientists were self-censoring. It became a professional necessity.

“We, researchers in general, were doing a lot of anticipatory obedience,” Abramoff said. This anticipatory obedience is partially based on memories from Trump’s first term, which other scientists have reported to Salon. An anonymous EPA official who left during Trump’s first term described how a lot of their work “pretty much stalled” during all four years when he was in office. “We kind of had to talk about the work differently,” they explained. “No one used the word ‘climate.’ Everybody kind of just talked about, ‘What are the outcomes of climate work?’ and not necessarily name ‘climate’ just as it is, if that makes sense.”

Those who did not comply, like air pollution expert Dan Costa, found that they “had a bullseye on us,” adding that “people objected when I felt that this administration coming in would number one, go after that regulatory program, and number two, because climate was in there, that it was just going to paper over the whole situation.”

Abramoff experienced a similar demand for anticipatory obedience as she pursued her ecology studies. “In our new proposals we would say things like ‘we study climate variability’ rather than ‘climate science’ or ‘soil health’ rather than ‘climate impacts on the carbon cycle in soil,’ which is my area of study,” Abramoff said.

When Abramoff saw a Make Our Planet Great Again scholarship subsidized by French President Emmanuel Macron, she thought the name was hilarious and applied; to her delight, she got the job, moving to France from 2018 to 2021, working for the Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l’Environnement. During the COVID-19 pandemic she began to miss her family, however, and eventually decided to move back to the United States. By that time Trump was out of office, having lost the 2020 presidential election to Joe Biden, but Abramoff says this was not why she chose to come back.

Yet even though Trump won the 2024 presidential election and will soon return to power, Abramoff does not plan on fleeing this time. She believes she can do more good in this country.

“When I was in France I wasn't as politically effective as I could have been in the United States,” Abramoff said. “I didn't understand the political system as well. I didn't have the same level of connections and understanding of how to make social and political change.”

According to Abramoff, America is where the action is because the United States is the single greatest historical emitter of fossil fuels and the Trump administration is going to “exacerbate our responsibility. The Trump administration is going to make the climate crisis worse, not better. I feel like I have a personal responsibility to stay here and push against that.”

Today Abramoff does this through her work at the Wintergreen Earth Science based in Kennebunk, Maine. Trenberth, by contrast, prefers to stay with his family in New Zealand. Indeed, that was a big reason why — unlike Abramoff — Trenberth ultimately decided to leave America for good.
 
HumpDayHoratio said:
Trust me when I say, these blowhards aren’t going anywhere. They’ll never leave their ivory towers and cushy jobs, especially if the research money trough is still getting filled.
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They're better than you. You do understand that, don't you?
 
Do you actually read the shit you post?

Abramoff isn't a scientist, she's a fucking political activist hiding behind a degree. Fuck her and all her ken, the door really should hit them in the ass on their way out.
 
UltraChad said:
You can lie to yourself with that bullshit but you're not lying to me. :D (y) (y)
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Except insofar as they always want more funding for scientific research, most scientists have no political agenda. Go to a university library sometime and look over the scientific journals -- does that stuff look political to you?

When scientists are political activists -- a rare phenomenon -- it usually has nothing to do with their science. There is no connection between Noam Chomsky's theories in linguistics and his "libertarian socialism."
 
Politruk said:
Except insofar as they always want more funding for scientific research, most scientists have no political agenda.
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LMFAO!!! get the fuck out of here dude..........you gonna tell me Rachel Maddow and Joy Reid are super unbiased journalist too??

LOL lie to someone stupid enough to buy it buddy.
 
Good, they know Elon is gonna show up and shut down their study on how cock roaches are motivated by wet left over toast.
 
UltraChad said:
LMFAO!!! get the fuck out of here dude..........you gonna tell me Rachel Maddow and Joy Reid are super unbiased journalist too??

LOL lie to someone stupid enough to buy it buddy.
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Go to a university library sometime and look over the scientific journals -- does that stuff look political to you?
 
Politruk said:
Go to a university library sometime and look over the scientific journals -- does that stuff look political to you?
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Quite a bit of it in modern times very much is.

To a near comical level....."scientist" is basically "woke bishop" at this point.
 
Another thread is on it's way to hell. Why? In the name of electrons, do we even read this tripe?
 
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