Trump says he and Putin have agreed to start 'negotiations' to end Ukraine war

[ll74]

Allyship that went one sided and largely maintained by one side long ago for an enemy that fell 35 going on 36 years ago.

What sense does it make for us to maintain this alliance against the ghosts of 1989??

Yes, I know you want to a abandon allies that have had our backs for 80 years because you think they don't don't do anything.

It has never been one sided. Youre on the wrong side of history.

 

[UltraChad]

Yes, I know you want to a abandon allies that have had our backs for 80 years because you think they don't don't do anything.

They don't even police their own back yards.....we literally have to come over and do it for them all the time.

Youre on the wrong side of history.

LOL I love this totally vapid leftoid shaming tactic.

Oh noes communist of the future will look down at me for not wanting to spend my nations blood or treasure on people who also look down at me.

Fucking unreal.

 

[Cogan]

You can't separate law from politics. Politics is literally about the control of law and political parties control politics. These things are all directly connected to each other in every modern nation state.

And I understand the law is the law. But the law regulating speech is still anti-free speech.

It's not that easy here. No law is agreed upon before a lot of legal authorities have looked at it and had their opinion about it. And when it comes to changing a constitution it must be voted upon over two periods with double majority.(2/3 of the government)
So yes, the politicians lay the proposal of what they want, but it's a lot of non politicians who have their saying too.

So can I ask, do you think all Trump supporters are like that?

Here most of them are.

Because I think you're putting your local concept of nationalism onto the US idea of it which along with a wildly anti-trump media is giving you some pretty off the walls ideas about Trump. Probably think he's orange hitler out here getting white people to sport hunt anyone without blond hair and blue eyes like rodents right?

Well, I listen to clips from all American media of what he says and make my own opinion upon that

I understand why you don't want that. But I also understand their desire to protect and preserve their culture/nation/people too.

And what culture is that? Viking culture, Gustav III culture, 1950 culture or what? We have had many cultures over the years since we always have had immigrants here since the time of the Vikings.

In the USA things are a good bit different. Our "FAR REICH WING NAZI FASCIST!!" just want the border secured and immigration laws followed. We want our tax dollars spent on our nations NEEDS before other nations wants. For that we are smeared as Nazis. LOL

No, teaming up with Putin and think you can play him is more than stupid I think. Not Nazi like at all. Just plain stupid.
Putin doesn't care for Russians or the rest of the world. He just want to own the world and be the biggest player around. So he has nothing to loose.
What has Trump to loose?

Well depending on the countries in question and how their relations are, I can understand that being a reasonable position in some circumstances.

If she were....Russian....would it make sense if they did that??

No. I can see the difference between people and their country. I don't hate Russians at all. I hate their government and their leader.
And especially if she's been here for over 50 years.
But I could see why the government would like to have her and my kids under control if we go into an aggression with her country. But not why they would force my kids to choose their membership. And if they were wise they'd put me too under certain control to be sure. I would.

 

[ll74]

They don't even police their own back yards.....we literally have to come over and do it for them all the time.

We're a global leader. We do leadership things in the world.

LOL I love this totally vapid leftoid shaming tactic.

Awesome for you.

Oh noes communist of the future will look down at me for not wanting to spend my nations blood or treasure on people who also look down at me.

Fucking unreal.

Myopic views are fun.

 

[LLCox]

 

[UltraChad]

It's not that easy here. No law is agreed upon before a lot of legal authorities have looked at it and had their opinion about it. And when it comes to changing a constitution it must be voted upon over two periods with double majority.(2/3 of the government)
So yes, the politicians lay the proposal of what they want, but it's a lot of non politicians who have their saying too.

Sound like a horrible system.

Here most of them are.

Well, I listen to clips from all American media of what he says and make my own opinion upon that

Ok.

And what culture is that?

Whatever your current culture is.

What has Trump to loose?

Really depends.

No. I can see the difference between people and their country.

Ah.......one of those "no nations" globalist types.

But not why they would force my kids to choose their membership.

To pick a side.

And if they were wise they'd put me too under certain control to be sure. I would.

So you do understand.

 

[UltraChad]

We're a global leader. We do leadership things in the world.

They don't want our leadership, they just want out money and weapons.

You Europhile putz types can't see that but it's obvious to anyone who's looked at the last 35 years.

Awesome for you.


Myopic views are fun.

"myopic" meaning you can't give us a good reason why we should continue paying a premium to be Europe's BITCH.

I'm sure Cheney is proud of you.

 

[ll74]

They don't want our leadership, they just want out money and weapons.

Lol...horseshit

You Europhile putz types can't see that but it's obvious to anyone who's looked at the last 35 years.

Horseshit

"myopic" meaning you can't give us a good reason why we should continue paying a premium to be Europe's BITCH.

I'm sure Cheney is proud of you.

Myopic meaning you ignore all of history.

 

[TastySuckToy]

If Trump is such a terrible person and terrible leader, the lefties democrats should be cheering on the US leaving the leadership role for the world.

You can't whine and cry about how terrible America is to have picked a leader like Trump, and then do a 180 and claim America needs to lead the world.

 

[ll74]

If Trump is such a terrible person and terrible leader, the lefties democrats should be cheering on the US leaving the leadership role for the world.

You can't whine and cry about how terrible America is to have picked a leader like Trump, and then do a 180 and claim America needs to lead the world.

Is this a logical series of events in your head?

 

[UltraChad]

Lol...horseshit


Horseshit

Hit Europhile snob hollering like the bitch slapped commie they/them is.

Myopic meaning you ignore all of history.

LOL I did no such thing, you're just made I've pointed out the last 35 years.....because THOSE don't jive with your "America should self destruct to lick European ass!!" mentality.

 

[ll74]

Hit Europhile snob hollering like the bitch slapped commie they/them is.

I support our allies and relationships with supportive friends around the world.
You can support Putin or whatever else as you need

LOL I did no such thing, you're just made I've pointed out the last 35 years.....because THOSE don't jive with your "America should self destruct to lick European ass!!" mentality.

That's not my argument. That's your ascription of my argument.

 

[Politruk]

If Trump is such a terrible person and terrible leader, the lefties democrats should be cheering on the US leaving the leadership role for the world.

You can't whine and cry about how terrible America is to have picked a leader like Trump, and then do a 180 and claim America needs to lead the world.

What America needs to do is follow -- follow the example of the European social democracies.

 

[Lance_Castro]

Has Putin agreed that Trump gets Chernobyl?

 

[Lazaran]

If Trump is such a terrible person and terrible leader, the lefties democrats should be cheering on the US leaving the leadership role for the world.

You can't whine and cry about how terrible America is to have picked a leader like Trump, and then do a 180 and claim America needs to lead the world.

NastySuckBoi is a fucktard.



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We. Told. Them. So.