Understanding your audiance

[BlackSnake]

And the hits just keep on coming...

Terrible story
11/26/05 by Anonymous in USA
I love mother/son incest stories, but this has got to be one of the worst I've ever read. Did the writer finish high school? His grammar is terrible.

The one thing that I can understand about this reader is that he/she read the story based on someone else's bias. It appears that this reader did not read the story though, just taking a shot to get one the previous reader's good side. Another 1 bomber rating now at 4.17

The story actually reads well

...and jerkoff, the writer has a 4 year college degree.

 

[BlackSnake]

Right back at ya....

Will it be at both ends of the spectrum?

Fantastically entertaining
11/26/05 by Anonymous
Sprung is wonderfully entertaining! It is one of the most realistically protrayed nasty stories that I've ever read. It is nice to see a plausable reason for a mother to have sex with her own son.

 

[MichelleLovesTo]

My Job -- and I Don't Mean a Blow Job.

Writing a good story is my "job." I take all my skills and do my best to attain certain goals. What the goals are varies depending on the story. I've never had a story be completely panned, although some are more popular than others.

If someone criticizes me for not reaching a goal I wasn't even aiming for, I don't really worry about it. It's like telling me that my DVD player makes a piss poor dishwasher. When someone's comments do concern my success or failure at attaining one of my goals, well, then I listen more.

I care about the readers, but the Ideal Reader varies. Not every story I write is for the exact same people. And, yes, I know what it's like to be in a quandary because people both want you to stay the same and surprise them. If there is one thing I'd want to say to the reader, it's that if one of my stories does not please them the next one will probably be quite different. I want to be someone talented enough that people will not write off if one story isn't their thing.

Still, when I'm writing these people are not in the room, and I'm still alone in a room and trying to do my "job."

 

[Hisbabydoll26]

I've tried to leave holes in my stories, so that the reader could fill in the missing pieces. Then I get this:

"...plus you never told us what there measurements were..."

To be fair, I used terms like "full" "soft" "appealing"...I could just express my personal feelings that anything more than a hand full is a waist, but I digress.

I just submitted a story that will probably get 1 bombed and fill up my email with hateful comments. I'm expecting it on this one called "Playa Playaat" The story is about a young man's struggle in his own reality.

I think I will have a problem with my regular readers. The tone is very hard compared to my usual stroke fests.

I think it's the direction I want to take my stories in the furture. Making them more real, with realistic drama and emotions.

For instance, in the story the mother doesn't given and fall in love with her son while he bangs her lights out. She has a problem with it and doesn't change that, although she isn't that cut and dry.

Anyone else worry about their audience when they are writing?

*raises hand* My opinion may not matter but here goes anyway...
You are the author and the artist of the fantasy...you can't possibly account for everyones taste, or lack of. There are going to be those that read for pleasure of the mind, of the body, and so they can be stupid and critical. I think being specific does take away from the fantasy. It sounds as though you are being descriptive without reaching overkill. Also remember that many people read and enjoy but don't always write to tell you that.

 

[JRaven]

I've tried to leave holes in my stories, so that the reader could fill in the missing pieces.

I try to do the same. I think it helps the reader put themselves into the story easier.

Making them more real, with realistic drama and emotions.

You are going to get SO 1 bombed!

Jenny

PS: I enjoyed "Strung"!

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSnake
I've tried to leave holes in my stories, so that the reader could fill in the missing pieces.

I try to do the same. I think it helps the reader put themselves into the story easier.

You are going to get SO 1 bombed!

Jenny

PS: I enjoyed "Strung"!

I try to avoid leaving any holes. I don't want the reader thinking too much; I want them fantasizing that they are one of the characters in the story, and reaching into their pants to play with themselves. I would consider the result of story to be ideal when a reader cums toward the end of the story, along with the character he or she identifies with. Plots, descriptions of characters and conflict are minimal to non-existent, so nothing gets in the way of the sex acts.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I try to avoid leaving any holes. I don't want the reader thinking too much; I want them fantasizing that they are one of the characters in the story, and reaching into their pants to play with themselves. I would consider the result of story to be ideal when a reader cums toward the end of the story, along with the character he or she identifies with. Plots, descriptions of characters and conflict are minimal to non-existent, so nothing gets in the way of the sex acts.

I think those are the very holes Blacksnake was talking about...

 

[Boxlicker101]

I think those are the very holes Blacksnake was talking about...

Well, the women in the stories (except for a TS)always have three holes and sometimes all of them are filled, sometimes all at the same time.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Well, the women in the stories (except for a TS)always have three holes and sometimes all of them are filled, sometimes all at the same time.

My kind of girls!
I find that putting two TS' together solves the problem of the missing hole, by the way

 

[BlackSnake]

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSnake
I've tried to leave holes in my stories, so that the reader could fill in the missing pieces.




I try to avoid leaving any holes. I don't want the reader thinking too much; I want them fantasizing that they are one of the characters in the story, and reaching into their pants to play with themselves. I would consider the result of story to be ideal when a reader cums toward the end of the story, along with the character he or she identifies with. Plots, descriptions of characters and conflict are minimal to non-existent, so nothing gets in the way of the sex acts.

I want my characters to have some depth to them. I want them to be liked or hated. The main character in "Playa-Playaat" will be so hated, I hope. Even the person editing the story expressed the emotion I was trying to draw. The main character, the narrator is a very realistic character to me, and I want to be able to show that in the story.

 

[BlackSnake]

Well, the women in the stories (except for a TS)always have three holes and sometimes all of them are filled, sometimes all at the same time.

But do you need to say that the top hole is 10 inches in diameter?

 

[BlackSnake]

I try to do the same. I think it helps the reader put themselves into the story easier.



You are going to get SO 1 bombed!

Jenny

PS: I enjoyed "Strung"!

I know, I'm going to get slammed. All my "H's" are going fast....LOL

 

[Boxlicker101]

But do you need to say that the top hole is 10 inches in diameter?

It would never be that big. If I have a description, I might refer to a woman as having generous mouth or a wide mouth, but it would never be ten inches. Maybe three inches, but I would never give a figure.

 

[BlackSnake]

It would never be that big. If I have a description, I might refer to a woman as having generous mouth or a wide mouth, but it would never be ten inches. Maybe three inches, but I would never give a figure.

That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. I think full, ample, heavy, up turned, shaggy, flat, and tiny is enough for the reader to make a visual without assigning numbers to them, unless they never seen a woman's chest before. Numbers are miss leading anyways. The same thing with cocks. I mean really, anything bigger than the biggest one you remember seeing is big. You're not measuring cocks during or before sex, I think. I also think that putting in numbers like 34C cheepens the story.

 

[Quiet_Cool]

Writing for an audience?

I write for me. Since I'm the only one I know will have any contact with the story. I don't believe I've acquired any constant readers as of yet. If I have, they're underground, and waiting impatiently for the next installment of something (most likely still A Warrior's Tale... sigh).

I write for me. If the story flows, then it flows. I write it, and when I'm done, if I like it, then the people who read it can make their own judgments. Otherwise, I either don't finish it (as is too often the case) or I don't send it anywhere or submit it here.

As for criticism... Most people want to tell you what should have happened. It isn't their place. If that's so important, write your own story. Those who want to tell me constructively, this character seemed to behave against its natural behavior patterns, or the story was vague or too slow here.

Cool. I'll listen.

Q_C

 

[Guest]

I write for me.

I write about the things I've done, things I want to do and things that will never happen even in my wildest erotic dreams.

I write about all those interesting sexual kinks that make me squirm.

And after the story is done I hope, as my husband reads, his approval and arousal will become evident. That's how I know the story works.

Biased? Sure. But he's a good source of inspiration, anticipation and perspiration.

So in essence, I really do write for me.

 

[Lust Engine]

I write for me.

I write about the things I've done, things I want to do and things that will never happen even in my wildest erotic dreams.

I write about all those interesting sexual kinks that make me squirm.

And after the story is done I hope, as my husband reads, his approval and arousal will become evident. That's how I know the story works.

Biased? Sure. But he's a good source of inspiration, anticipation and perspiration.

So in essence, I really do write for me.

It's the BEST place for inspiration! Why go any further than that??

 

[Stella_Omega]

It's the BEST place for inspiration! Why go any further than that??

Because it's always good to stretch.

 

[rgraham666]

I write for me.

I write about the things I've done, things I want to do and things that will never happen even in my wildest erotic dreams.

I write about all those interesting sexual kinks that make me squirm.

And after the story is done I hope, as my husband reads, his approval and arousal will become evident. That's how I know the story works.

Biased? Sure. But he's a good source of inspiration, anticipation and perspiration.

So in essence, I really do write for me.

I am now extremely envious of your husband.

A large proportion of my stuff is inspired by the ladies here on Lit. Working on one such at the present time.

 

[BlackSnake]

If I wrote just for me, then I would never post a thing.

I do want to give my readers better stories to read, and not just some simple jolly strokers.

 

[BlackSnake]

First comments for "Playa Playa: Pat"

This message contains feedback for: BlackSnake
About the submission: Playa Playa: Pat
This feedback was sent by: Anonymous

Comments:

So he's not really her son at all. Why bother to list it as incest then? A pimp
with only one or two hoes is "cheap playa wanabee" the story is lacking. The sex
is short and the details are focused on all the wrong things.

This shows that either the reader did not read carefully, or I didn't do a good enought job to expressly state the obvious:

"Please don't make me talk about it," she said meekly.

It struck me that she might have the slightest bit of motherly instincts. It would be a first. She moved around the room taking care of my clothes, which I was paying her for. I really didn't care what she wanted. That pussy was good.

or

Pat was cool the entire time. She got her favorite kind of ice cream. She use to buy it for me when I was a kid.

or

Pat had a style that I never knew about. All I knew about her was that my father beat her down and left us both homeless. She was a basket case, so I had to take charge. I couldn't leave her alone for a minute to hustle without her selling her ass for something stupid like getting me a birthday card. We had much bigger problems than that. No one really wanted to help us, they just wanted to get to her. I had to steal a piece to keep them niggas off her. Where she learned her manners, I had no idea.

or

I held her tight. I wanted to spill my guts to her, but I couldn't. I had to keep my head. It felt so good to have my hard dick deep inside of her with her arms around me. I actually felt safe, which was strange because I was the one that protected her. I knew what it all meant. I couldn't be the son that she had.

"This is how it has to be," I whispered in her hear.

"I understand, but you're still my little boy," she replied brushing the back of my head.

I am sorry the reader couldn't draw an inference from this....

Rating 4.83

 

[BlackSnake]

Boom! 4.38

 

[Stella_Omega]

Boom! 4.38

Well, they can kiss your ass, Snake. I just read it and gave you a 5- and I do NOT bullshit with my votes. It's really really good writing.
It keeps a sense of self all the way through, using language and rhythm in a way that I always hope for, but rarely find. You betcha!

I once got feedback on a story that said- although what I was writing was not normally a turnon to this particular reader, I made her understand how erotic it could be.
The same to you, buddy!

The funny thing about "Playa Playa: Pat" was how clearly I saw it set in Chicago- from Cabrini Green to Michigan Avenue.

 

[CharleyH]

I've tried to leave holes in my stories, so that the reader could fill in the missing pieces. Then I get this:

"...plus you never told us what there measurements were..."

To be fair, I used terms like "full" "soft" "appealing"...I could just express my personal feelings that anything more than a hand full is a waist, but I digress.

I just submitted a story that will probably get 1 bombed and fill up my email with hateful comments. I'm expecting it on this one called "Playa Playaat" The story is about a young man's struggle in his own reality.

I think I will have a problem with my regular readers. The tone is very hard compared to my usual stroke fests.

I think it's the direction I want to take my stories in the furture. Making them more real, with realistic drama and emotions.

For instance, in the story the mother doesn't given and fall in love with her son while he bangs her lights out. She has a problem with it and doesn't change that, although she isn't that cut and dry.

Anyone else worry about their audience when they are writing?

Apparently you turn men on? Know your audience if you think you want to?

And no I worry about what turns me on in a story. If I cant turn me on? LOL Who the hell else am I turning on with any artifice?

 

[Stella_Omega]

Apparently you turn men on? Know your audience if you think you want to?

And no I worry about what turns me on in a story. If I cant turn me on? LOL Who the hell else am I turning on with any artifice?

You'd have a better idea of what he's talking about if you skimmed the story in question, Charley. It's pretty heavy, and not so much erotic as it's about sex, you see. If any guy goes to it with the idea of spanking the monkey (My favorite phrase today!) he probably won't be happy with this one. All the same, it's excellent- publishing quality, I'd say.