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Apple is full of shit. Does anyone really believe they don't have software to crack the phone already?
If one of Cook's relatives were killed in San Bernandino (sp) this would be a non-story.
If one of Cook's relatives were killed in San Bernandino (sp) this would be a non-story.
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Ishmael
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Apple should fight this tooth and nail. If they allow this to stand every Podunk magistrate in every Podunk little town will be issuing the same order over every little Podunk case that involves an iPhone. And we haven't even begun to talk about foreign governments and their courts.
And this is NOT about any "search warrant." Who are they going to serve the warrant to, the phone? How about the owner of registry, the county of san Bernadino? Apple neither owns, nor has possession of the phone in question.
Sean is partially right (I saw where he was quoted). Not long after the script is written it will be out there somewhere. The employee isn't going to post it on the dark web for free. But interested parties, including foreign powers, are going to hunt him/her down and make an offer that would be beyond their power to resist. That script would be the keys to Apples iPhone kingdom and is worth millions to some one.
And just what does the FBI expect to glean from that phone. You know damn well that the already have the metadata of every incoming and outgoing number that phone connected to. Do they expect to find full names, addresses, and gps coordinates?
Further, if a local magistrate can order a private concern to provide free goods or services to the government just because they want it to because the government MIGHT find something interesting, where does it stop? Apple is entirely correct in demanding that this be resolved with legislation. Legislation that protects the consumer, the company, as well as defining exactly what constitutes over riding government interest/needs. No Podunk magistrate should have the power this particular bench sitter has assumed that she has.
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And this is NOT about any "search warrant." Who are they going to serve the warrant to, the phone? How about the owner of registry, the county of san Bernadino? Apple neither owns, nor has possession of the phone in question.
Sean is partially right (I saw where he was quoted). Not long after the script is written it will be out there somewhere. The employee isn't going to post it on the dark web for free. But interested parties, including foreign powers, are going to hunt him/her down and make an offer that would be beyond their power to resist. That script would be the keys to Apples iPhone kingdom and is worth millions to some one.
And just what does the FBI expect to glean from that phone. You know damn well that the already have the metadata of every incoming and outgoing number that phone connected to. Do they expect to find full names, addresses, and gps coordinates?
Further, if a local magistrate can order a private concern to provide free goods or services to the government just because they want it to because the government MIGHT find something interesting, where does it stop? Apple is entirely correct in demanding that this be resolved with legislation. Legislation that protects the consumer, the company, as well as defining exactly what constitutes over riding government interest/needs. No Podunk magistrate should have the power this particular bench sitter has assumed that she has.
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He's almost figured out how to crack the carrier pigeon.
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Um... What?
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I am sure there is some person way that can get into the phone without Apple having to get involved. They do it all the time on TV shows.
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This from the no-info guy who voted with DizzyBooby.
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At risk of being put in the same bag as that IQ-challenged Miles, I still think Apple already has something that will do what the FBI wants. They aren't nice people and they don't care about anyone but themselves. Apple cares about privacy about as much as Facebook does, they just have that rep and they want to keep it.
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As I mentioned in the thread I started last week (I think it was) on the topic, reputation is a significant portion of a company's assets.
If it came out that they already had the ability to bypass the phone security their stock price would take a significant hit. No company wants that and there would be nothing to gain from Apple having such code in their possession.
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Don't need to!
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Miles, who brags that he has no tolerance for stupid, states that Apple already has software to crack its phones' security. How does he know his? Does anyone (with a functioning brain) agree with him? He loves mocking people for being low information and far below him intellectually. Does he have need for a mirror?
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There are a couple of people in this thread iPhone users, say goodbye to your phones security who think Apple has the code or that the feds could decrypt it if they really wanted to.
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People think a lot of things. Alien anal probes have quite a following.
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Miles and his marine bro AJ are living in the past. AJ, you'll recall, said earlier this week he coded a God-mode password override in banking software.
These two have no idea of the advances made in privacy and password protection in the past generation (which, coincidentally, is the same length of time since their last meaningful employment!)
