Violet Wands - WOW!

[raven2]

Keep it clean and on ice, we can make it better, reattach it and all that. *winks*

Fury

LOL. I will do my best. "of all the things I've lost, its my mind I miss the most."

 

[FurryFury]

LOL. I will do my best. "of all the things I've lost, its my mind I miss the most."

LMAO!

"I'm out of my mind but feel free to leave a message."

Fury

 

[BeachGurl2]

Wow, post, run back to work, and you guys get busy here. I kinda like that type of response.

For those of you who have never done this and think you never will, don't say "No" quite yet. I was of a mind that electro play was definitely on my hard limit list. He and I attended a newbie night at the local dungeon this weekend to see what it was like - neither of us had ever been to a dungeon before and thought that was the best way to approach it. We had a great time, although I kind of tried a couple of new things while He mostly watched.

The Dom who demonstrated the violet wand had a claw with a vibrator on the fingers that I tried first - it wasn't really sharp enough to break the skin, but was fairly intense with the vibrating fingers on it. This Dom was the one who suggested I might like to try the violet wand. He hadn't brought it in because he didn't want to intimidate anyone who might be new to BDSM - since that isn't the case here, just new to the whole dungeon thing, I was willing to give it a go. My back was a bit tender because I had just had my entire back to the back of my knees waxed in a demo for someone else, so I wasn't sure I really wanted to try it.

He used each of the attachments on my back and then moved to the front. I especially enjoyed the metal attachments as they were even more intense than the glass attachments. The Dom who demonstrated this on me wanted others to try it out, but only one other sub was willing, and only on her arms. So I was sort of used as the demonstrator for the entire dungeon. That was a little intimidating, but I was enjoying it too much to really notice that everyone in the room had stopped what they were doing to watch.

So, until you've given something a try, don't say no.

 

[FurryFury]

*L*

I for one, never considered saying, no."

*grins*

Fury

 

[raven2]

Wow, post, run back to work, and you guys get busy here. I kinda like that type of response.

For those of you who have never done this and think you never will, don't say "No" quite yet. I was of a mind that electro play was definitely on my hard limit list. He and I attended a newbie night at the local dungeon this weekend to see what it was like - neither of us had ever been to a dungeon before and thought that was the best way to approach it. We had a great time, although I kind of tried a couple of new things while He mostly watched.

The Dom who demonstrated the violet wand had a claw with a vibrator on the fingers that I tried first - it wasn't really sharp enough to break the skin, but was fairly intense with the vibrating fingers on it. This Dom was the one who suggested I might like to try the violet wand. He hadn't brought it in because he didn't want to intimidate anyone who might be new to BDSM - since that isn't the case here, just new to the whole dungeon thing, I was willing to give it a go. My back was a bit tender because I had just had my entire back to the back of my knees waxed in a demo for someone else, so I wasn't sure I really wanted to try it.

He used each of the attachments on my back and then moved to the front. I especially enjoyed the metal attachments as they were even more intense than the glass attachments. The Dom who demonstrated this on me wanted others to try it out, but only one other sub was willing, and only on her arms. So I was sort of used as the demonstrator for the entire dungeon. That was a little intimidating, but I was enjoying it too much to really notice that everyone in the room had stopped what they were doing to watch.

So, until you've given something a try, don't say no.

Congrats. You took a chance and found something you liked. In the future you can really have some fun.

 

[NemoAlia]

This (and every other kind of electro-play) is something I've always wanted to try. Too bad those shocking Domly types (and their toys) can't be in multiple places at the same time!

 

[graceanne]

LMAO!

"I'm out of my mind but feel free to leave a message."

Fury

I've left to find myself. If I come back, please let me know I'm looking for me.

 

[FurryFury]

LOL!

Fury

 

[ThorkelGriersen]

Ouch

LOL, ... worse still, himself let loose with the tweezers in a half lit room...amazing how many times he swears he didn't get skin!!

Catalina

Been there, done that. Skin, 4 hairs at a time. The next day was worse.

As they used to say at GE, better living through electricity!

 

[Thrall_67]

Ok - i am not DVS, and do not propose to give info that He will......
alas, while we subbies wait oh, so patiently for Sir........................

i do own a wand.

It has both glass and metal attachments. It also has something called "lightening Hands" (which btw, was what made me spend the $1000)
It allows the electricity to run through the wearer but the electricity won't arc till contact is made with another person.....similar to "zapping" someone with static electricity by rubbing across a shag carpet....... the electricity moves from whatever part of your body touches the other person...........

Yes, it's very very cool when the spark comes out of your tongue.......

Careful with the chest area (though i do use it on nipples) because, in theory, it can interfere with the electrical impulses of the heart. It can also do a number on electrical equipment in the vicinity - the first time i tried my wand in my bedroom - my stepping machine went haywire and so did my clock radio (like a poltergist was in the room!)

Just my two cents.......
kneels and waits patiently for DVS............

 

[BeachGurl2]

Ok - i am not DVS, and do not propose to give info that He will......
alas, while we subbies wait oh, so patiently for Sir........................

i do own a wand.

It has both glass and metal attachments. It also has something called "lightening Hands" (which btw, was what made me spend the $1000)
It allows the electricity to run through the wearer but the electricity won't arc till contact is made with another person.....similar to "zapping" someone with static electricity by rubbing across a shag carpet....... the electricity moves from whatever part of your body touches the other person...........

Yes, it's very very cool when the spark comes out of your tongue.......

Careful with the chest area (though i do use it on nipples) because, in theory, it can interfere with the electrical impulses of the heart. It can also do a number on electrical equipment in the vicinity - the first time i tried my wand in my bedroom - my stepping machine went haywire and so did my clock radio (like a poltergist was in the room!)

Just my two cents.......
kneels and waits patiently for DVS............

This Dom also had a similar attachment. At one point, he held onto my Dom's arm so that the electricity could travel through Him to me - that allowed my Dom to experience it as well. That was kind of interesting.

*An aside ~ this Dom made sure to tell me that you should never be wearing anything with metal while using this - underwire bra, panties with metal parts, corset with metal stays, etc.

*Waiting patiently for DVS to pipe in* I'd love to hear more info about this. I'm especially interested in something this Dom said about his additional unit that included "insertables". Now THAT sounds interesting . . .

 

[raven2]

This Dom also had a similar attachment. At one point, he held onto my Dom's arm so that the electricity could travel through Him to me - that allowed my Dom to experience it as well. That was kind of interesting.

*An aside ~ this Dom made sure to tell me that you should never be wearing anything with metal while using this - underwire bra, panties with metal parts, corset with metal stays, etc.

*Waiting patiently for DVS to pipe in* I'd love to hear more info about this. I'm especially interested in something this Dom said about his additional unit that included "insertables". Now THAT sounds interesting . . .

I definitely agree with the aside. Metal and electricity, not a good combo if you don't want some bad consequences.

 

[Blushing Bottom]

You have no idea....

The probes are a gift from the erotica gods.

I'm especially interested in something this Dom said about his additional unit that included "insertables". Now THAT sounds interesting . . .

 

[raven2]

You have no idea....

The probes are a gift from the erotica gods.

All hail the gods and their priests!!

 

[FurryFury]

I had a gf who got to try one at a fetish con. She loved it! I loved hearing about it!

However some dude who also tried it had to go to the hospital which was scary at the time. He was fine though. He had other physical problems.

If I obtain one, I'm so going to share with her! the expense is the only thing holding me back particularly since my husband is interested.

The thing about other stuff in the room going wacky gives me pause though. I live in an electronic wonderland. Don't be hurting my toys!!! That's scary!!

Fury

 

[LadyAria]

*Looks around for DVS* He really needs to come and share some of his knowledge.

Violet wands are so beautiful!

After I got myself really hurt using an altered cattle prod, I was pointed in the direction of DVS for assistance. DVS gave me some great tips for getting a new toy. (Also, he gave me some good safety tips for use) I ordered it offline and it has made me a very satisfied consumer.

 

[BeachGurl2]

*Looks around for DVS* He really needs to come and share some of his knowledge.

Violet wands are so beautiful!

After I got myself really hurt using an altered cattle prod, I was pointed in the direction of DVS for assistance. DVS gave me some great tips for getting a new toy. (Also, he gave me some good safety tips for use) I ordered it offline and it has made me a very satisfied consumer.

Haven't seen you in awhile, Lady A. How have you been? I was hoping DVS would pop in, but no luck so far. Maybe if we all start chanting - DVS, where are you?

 

[cati]

While we're waiting, perhaps we can discuss sex machines aka Sybians.
Anyone have one or had the pleasure of using one?

 

[DVS]

Got my first taste of a violet wand this weekend at a local dungeon - also a first for me. Wasn't really a scene, but was just an opportunity to try it out and see if it was something I liked. Wow! What an interesting sensation. Another of those supposed hard limits that is no longer a limit for me.

For those who are old hands at electric play, how long do you go between sessions with electricy? I had marks that were still there after about 36 hours, but they are gone completely now. I'd love to hear from people who are pretty experienced at this.

If you had marks for 36 hours after, I'd be interested in knowing the intensity the wand was set at and how long the Dom held it stationary at those places you had marks. In my experience, the wand doesn't leave marks when normally used, although I know it does at high intensity settings and with certain implements used. No need to be alarmed at your results, though.

What I mean by that is, the wand will be more intense when the contact to the body is with a small point, or maybe a thin side of a knife. You can leave actual burns on the skin with these things. The intensity of the wand (with the intensity knob set high) is even more intense, because it is all sent though this small metal toy.

A butter knife can be used to simulate knife play, because the sensation of the current flowing though the knife edge to the skin actually can feel like you are being cut, It's not EXACTLY the same, obviously, but when you simulate something it won't ever be exactly the same. I know a sub that experienced this type of play with the butter knife and she had a thin burn that went the same path of the wand. If I remember correctly, it lasted for a day or two. It's the same result as sunburn, and should last the same amount of time.

DISCLAIMER: I mention butter knife because you don't want to use a sharp knife in this sort of play because if the edge is sharp, it could cut and you wouldn’t know it...until you saw blood. Oh, I'm sure there are some out there who will use a sharp knife and try this, but in this disclaimer, I don't recommend it. Safety in all things and mixing too many implements at one time can be dangerous. We all know that when a man gets an erection, there isn't enough blood left to allow his brain to work. Now, would you want him to also be holding a sharp knife in his hands AND a violet wand, too? THINK, PEOPLE!

You can brand someone with a wand, using the same principle. I'm not into anything that intense but it is possible. Using something like a dental tool, to get the thinnest point of contact possible, it can be done. Of course, the victim...I mean subject must be completely still for it to work, too.

It is a slow and painful process because you are actually burning the skin. Personally, I don't recommend this, as it requires a lot of patience, the wand must be at a high intensity level for a long period of time (depending on what you are spelling in this brand) and the subject's body must not move for this same long period of time.

Personally, I like to see my subject's body move and wiggle when I use the wand. That's a lot of the enjoyment for me. And, even a scream or two is fun, also. I do get a few of those, with quick little zaps in the more sensitive areas of the body.

So, BeachGurl2, I'd be interested to know how those marks that lasted for 36 hours were created. As someone in this thread mentioned, metal toys will be more intense than the glass globes more often seen with a wand. And, the larger the globe, the less intense the current is. It's the exact opposite of the branding and knife play I mentioned above.

Where you want a very small point of contact for branding, if the point of contact is larger, the more spread out the wand's current is. So, at any given intensity setting on the wand, you also have an additional intensity increase by going from a large globe to a smaller globe.

For an analogy, look at it this way. Take a garden hose with no nozzle on the end. Turn on the water, and it just flows out, not that far and without much pressure behind it. It will get you wet, but because the hole is about an inch in diameter, there is nothing restricting it, or pushing it.

Now, if you were to put your thumb on this hole, it would cause the water to shoot out further, in a thinner path, with more intensity and pressure. In this modern world we live in, the hose nozzle does all of this for you so all you have to do is squeeze the handle. But, that's what's happening inside it. The path of the water is being made smaller, so it flows out with more intensity and force.

Now that analogy isn't exactly what happens with electrical current. I only used the analogy to give you an image to relate with what I was talking about. In the garden hose, water backs up in the hose because the smaller hole only allows a certain amount of water out at a time. That's what causes the pressure to build up. The smaller hole and the additional pressure causes the water to shoot out further and with more force.

But, with electricity, even though the contact is smaller, it does NOT restrict the current flow. And, because it does not restrict the current flow, that's what causes the increase of intensity. So, you are getting the same amount of current flowing through a smaller contact, resulting in more intensity.

There are several glass globes that come with the kid. The largest of these globes will be the least intense of all. In this case, more size means less intensity. There is also a smaller globe that, when attached to the wand (and without changing the intensity of the wand itself) will give you a more intense sensation.

And, there are also even smaller glass attachments that come with the kit. There is one called the rake, which looks kind of like an old garden rake. It has several small glass fingers that will each produce a zap, when they come in contact with the skin. If only one of these fingers touches you, the full current of the wand will be sent though that one finger. If two of these glass fingers touch you, the current will be less intense, because it is sent though both fingers and the intensity is divided between the two. But, because these fingers are thinner than the surface of a globe, the rake produces a more intense feeling.

There is also an attachment called the mushroom. It looks kind of like a mushroom on the end of a glass tube and it can create an even more intense sensation than the rake. Because there is only one path for the current to flow (where the rake has four), it will always be more intense. My kid also came with another attachment that is just a simple glass tube, about the width of a test tube in chemistry set. It is also pretty intense, because the path of the current is small.

Now, if you want to get intense...
Most kits come with what is called the body contact plate. It is a small metal plate that the Dom can put in his waistband, or it can be somehow put in contact with the sub. However it is used, it must always be in contact with one of the two players to work correctly.

This metal plate is connected by a beaded chain to the wand. This allows the whole body to be a conducting probe. So, if the Dom was wearing it, his fingers could be used to give the shock, in the same way the globes are used. Even his tongue or cock could produce the current, if he doesn't mind feeling the same shock he is giving the sub. In fact, anything he touches the sub with, be it his own body or something else that will conduct electrical current, he will give his sub a shock.

This goes back to the branding and knife play. The dental pick most common for branding and the butter knife are both metal and as long as the Don is in contact with the body attachment plate, anything metal he holds in his hand will become a probe. So, let your mind wander a bit...a spoon, a fork, a wisk, or any other kitchen utensil that is metal will work. But, you must keep in mind, that the smaller the contact with the body, the more intense the feeling. So, if you are going from the large globe to a fork or spoon, you want to turn the wand down to get the same intensity level as the globe.

Speaking of intensity...the body is largely made of water. And, because electricity REALLY likes water, you can burn someone with a wand. You can also produce blisters, with very extreme intensity levels and leaving the wand in one spot for long periods of time. And, this result would be quicker, in the more moist of areas, such as pussy.

I'm not saying this is easy to do, because it isn't. The more masochistic people might get to this level easily, though. With all forms of electricity, safety is necessary. Because you can't see most electricity, you need to know what can happen as a result of too much. Body tissues can be damaged with intense electricity from the wand. In 99% of the cases, the body will eventually heal and no permanent damage will result. But, care should be taken to not go overboard with the wand, either.

I like to keep the wand moving, or at least not leave it in one spot for more than 5 to 10 seconds. Sure, you could leave it longer with no danger of harm, but keeping with the safety idea, you always want this to be a fun experience. If the Dom has to keep wondering if something he's doing is safe, he loses some of the fun for himself. So, keeping the level of contact way below the threshold of damage takes that element of worry away.

When first using a wand, you need to stick with this basic rule, until you know just how the wand works and how it affects the body. Keep the wand moving and any continuous contact to a minimum, and within a short time you will be able to do more, because you are then an experienced user.

Any physical damage is rare, and I want to make that point. But, because it is possible, I also wanted that to be known, too. And, as for using the wand around the heart , that is something you need to understand, too. The heart beats because of an electrical impulse it gets from the brain. If some other form of electricity were to interfere with that impulse, the heart could stop beating...and we all know what that means.

So, know where the heart is and don't get too close to it, with the wand. Nipple play is OK, but, don't get carried away and use the wand around the cleavage area. See...that's where the heart is. And, as a basic rule of thumb, although it is OK for nipple play, always keep in mind you are near the heart. Don't get carried away.

And, because electricity will flow in ways you might not understand, don't ever use an attachment that will stimulate both nipples at the same time. Doing so would cause the electrical current to flow from nipple to nipple, and that would send electricity through the chest wall, and also through the heart. But, zapping one nipple at a time should be just fine...well, unless you are the sub experiencing it.

I could go on and on about this and I'm sure I've lost more than a few of you with this lengthy post. Sorry, if I got too wordy on some points, and if I got too technical on the electrical parts. It's not easy to explain this, without a show and tell situation. Anybody who's willing to be my victim, I'm more than happy to do go into more detail with what I love about my wand.

 

[BeachGurl2]

If you had marks for 36 hours after, I'd be interested in knowing the intensity the wand was set at and how long the Dom held it stationary at those places you had marks. In my experience, the wand doesn't leave marks when normally used, although I know it does at high intensity settings and with certain implements used. No need to be alarmed at your results, though.
<snip>
So, BeachGurl2, I'd be interested to know how those marks that lasted for 36 hours were created.

He originally set the intensity pretty low, but when he noticed that I was reacting positively he gradually increased it - but I have no idea what the settings were. He said he was surprised that I reacted so positively to that intensity on my first try. The marks that stayed around were from 2 separate metal objects - a wheel thing that looks like a small pointy pie cutter and 2 fingertip claws. I had tic tac toe patterns on my back from them for about 36 hours.

<snip>There is one called the rake, which looks kind of like an old garden rake. <snip>There is also an attachment called the mushroom.
<snip>Now, if you want to get intense...
Most kits come with what is called the body contact plate. <snip>So, if the Dom was wearing it, his fingers could be used to give the shock, in the same way the globes are used.

He had all of these attachments, plus a couple more, and he used all of them on me. I agree that the mushroom was much more intense than the rake. In fact, I didn't really like the rake after trying the others.

Also, we played a bit with using a third person between us. Obviously, my Dom was one of them, but we were also joined by another girl at one point. She wanted to try it nipple to nipple, which was pretty weird. You could see the electricity between us each time our nipples came into contact.

<snip>
And, because electricity will flow in ways you might not understand, don't ever use an attachment that will stimulate both nipples at the same time. Doing so would cause the electrical current to flow from nipple to nipple, and that would send electricity through the chest wall, and also through the heart. But, zapping one nipple at a time should be just fine...well, unless you are the sub experiencing it.

Okay, when this Dom was using his hands, he moved them over my arms and down across my breasts so that he broke contact on my nipples each time. A very interesting little shock. Should he not have done that?

<snip>
Anybody who's willing to be my victim, I'm more than happy to do go into more detail with what I love about my wand.

Hmmmm. After experiencing this, I might be willing to be your victim . . .

Thanks, DVS. My comments/questions back to you are in your quote in green.

 

[FurryFury]

Thanks, DVS. My comments/questions back to you are in your quote in green.

I can barely see the green. Help! What's wrong with me/my eyes?

Fury

 

[BeachGurl2]

I can barely see the green. Help! What's wrong with me/my eyes?

Fury

I changed it while you were posting. Can you see it better now?

 

[FurryFury]

I changed it while you were posting. Can you see it better now?

Yes! Thank you! I'm having "issues" with my poor pounding head today.

Fury

 

[FurryFury]

Mmm! Nipple to nipple electricity arc! I sooo find that appealing! Wow!!! Yeah Baybee!

If someone would like to help my head 'splode right now, I'd actually be grateful. The build up of pain makes it seem like an attractive alternative. I can just imagine a small metal contact being used until it pops like a grape, then peace.

Fury

 

[DVS]

Thanks, DVS. My comments/questions back to you are in your quote in green.

He originally set the intensity pretty low, but when he noticed that I was reacting positively he gradually increased it - but I have no idea what the settings were. He said he was surprised that I reacted so positively to that intensity on my first try. The marks that stayed around were from 2 separate metal objects - a wheel thing that looks like a small pointy pie cutter and 2 fingertip claws. I had tic tac toe patterns on my back from them for about 36 hours.

The intensty might have been part of it, but because you mention the little pointy pie cutter (The Wartenberg Pinwheel) and the fingertip claws, those would have intensified any current, because they both are pinpoint contacts with your skin. In fact, the Wartenberg pinwheel has very sharp points and has quite an effect on it's own. You must have been able to handle some pretty high intensity to have those leave marks on you. Nothing wrong with the marks. They are similar to flogging marks or cane marks, after a session, or rope burns on wrists, etc. Just trophys of a good time.

Added info on violet wands...what they look like and how they work, etc.
VioletWand.org

Okay, when this Dom was using his hands, he moved them over my arms and down across my breasts so that he broke contact on my nipples each time. A very interesting little shock. Should he not have done that?

Well, like I said in my original post, electricity flows in ways you might not be aware of. And, without knowing exactly how the current was flowing (from whom, to whom, etc.) it is difficult to know if it was dangerous or not. Because this guy seemed to know what he was doing, I doubt it was dangerous. I'm sure he'd done that before with someone else.

And, this is a difficult subject. I guess you could say the jury is still out. Some say the current of the wand only flows on the surface of the skin, and doesn't even penetrate the body. But, some say it does, as does the current from a TENS unit. A wand produces static electricity, which is the safest form of electricity to play with. And, if it does only flow on the surface of the skin, then above the waist play is not that dangerous.

BUT, you will find many, if not most web sites will say to always be safe and only play with electricity below the waist. Some of that is for legal reasons, so they can't be sued if someone is hurt with one of their electrical toys, but I really don't know if anybody is for sure just how the current flows.

There have been tests done, but like everything else, someone comes along and says the test was flawed, and so were the results. The safe thing to do is be aware of what can happen and know who you are playing with. Because the Dom you were with seemed quite educated on how the wand works, he was not a novice. But, if you have any doubts, I would quiz someone you aren't sure of, to see if they know about electrical safety.

If you are really interested in doing much play with a wand, you can google info pages about violet wand use and about electrical toy play, in general. Many of these sites are for the non-electrical minded person, so you can understand what is being said. I feel it's a responsible sub who knows what she/he is getting into, when someone wants to use an electrical toy on them.

If you know the person and know they are educated on how electricity works and how the device they are using works, that is one thing. But, if you are going to go somewhere and experience this type of play with someone you don't know, and their skill can't be verified by someone else, I'd be at least a little concerned. It's one thing to be on the receiving end of a flogger or cane when used by a novice, but when we are talking about electrical toys, the thrill of the moment can cause some people to take risks that shouldn't be taken.

But, after saying all of this, I'd say the Dom you were playing with knew what he was doing and there was no danger. If you are ever concerned about this, be sure only one nipple is touched at a time, so the current has no chance of flowing through your chest cavity or your heart. Electricity flows very fast and as soon as contact is removed, any current is stopped. So, you could experience almost simultanious nipple play just because of that...by playing bongos on your nipples, perhaps?

By the way, the green was very dark. It just looks like a bold type to me. I chose olive for my green.