Vista bad!

JazzManJim said:
I'm pretty convinced right now that Vista is an unfinished program that was shoved out to meet a marketing schedule.
Yeah. That's another thing the tech guy mentioned. He kept telling me to wait until they work the bugs out of Vista.
If you flirt with tech support, you get loads of info. :D
 
JazzManJim said:
It's true that a lot of the neat-o games (even the good shareware ones) aren't going to be available to me,
Quite a few of the major release games are available for Mac. And now that all of the new Apple hardware is running on Intel chips, that situation can only improve. Also, if you were really desperate to play a certain game, you could always install Windows on your Intel-based Mac and just reboot into Windows when you want to play (and then boot back into OS X when play time is over).

JazzManJim said:
but I can live with that. I have a computer that works every time I need it to.
And that's really the bottom line. :D
 
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pinkstarfish said:
So your beef is more on principle rather than product.

If they are just bulking up the code to add in these restriction, yup. What I've seen of their "new" interface, it looks a lot like one Sun started demoing a while ago. Project LookingGlass -- http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/

If Sun could do that on JAVA and have it run decent when they started demoing it, I don't see the Vista user interface justifying the miminum system requirements Micro$oft is claming for Vista. However, seeing all the programs they would have to have running realtime to process the restrictions the FSF is stating makes the minimum system requirements make sense. As well as the fact that people reviewing the sytem found Vista doesn't start to run well until the system has about 4GB of RAM.

Unfortunately, the general public just doesn't realize it does have very functionally choices beyond whatever Micro$oft puts out. Mac is basically the only thing the general public sees as a choice to M$. Linux, if they even know the word, is some scary beast in the basement which they don't think they would ever understand.
 
islandman said:
So, bottom line this for me because I'm about a year away from my next computer:

What O/S is out there that will allow me to continue to run Windows application, doesn't subject me to Microsoft's 'Big Brother' mentality, without requiring me to learn code stuff?

An option to try is CrossOver Linux It leverages a project called WINE which has the capability to run many M$Win programs. They have list of the M$Win programs which have been tested under their product and how much of its native functionality worked using their product to run it on Linux.
 
WickedEve said:
Yeah. That's another thing the tech guy mentioned. He kept telling me to wait until they work the bugs out of Vista.
If you flirt with tech support, you get loads of info. :D

If I have to use something sold by Micro$oft, I do my best to make sure at least once Service Pack as come out for the product before I install it anywhere.

One way I like to run software and OSs I don't trust is to use VMWare Player or VMWare Server since both are free these days. Running them on Linux, I have the built-in, robust firewall which I can use to restrict any network traffic the software can do and keep any disk access to the virtual disk allocated to install it on VMWare.
 
Simon_Moon said:
Mac OS X. You can't run the exact same software as on Windows, but for most major software (including M$ Office) there is a Mac version available.

I totally forgot .. the folks that do CrossOver Linux also do CrossOver Mac
 
linuxgeek said:
I totally forgot .. the folks that do CrossOver Linux also do CrossOver Mac
Hey, I'm all about some Crossover Office. I run it on my Debian box so I can use Photoshop. But for just about any app I'd want to run on a Mac (like Photoshop or Quark), there is a native version already. Still, it's nice to know there is the option, which is the really the beauty of open source.
 
kissinggurl said:

Not surprized considering how low a percentage of the money promised by the Fed has actually been delivered.

Not a good thing with the predictions for the hurricane season looking like they were last year before the el nino interviened.
 
goodness.. tough room.. I figured the mac commercials would at least get a laugh.
 
linuxgeek said:
goodness.. tough room.. I figured the mac commercials would at least get a laugh.
Yeah, that one with the new black mac is funny.

However, I disagree with the idea that "It's just a computer. Get over it." It seems like they're trying to say that there's no difference between Mac systems and Windows systems. Utter horseshit. There's a world of difference.
 
Simon_Moon said:
Yeah, that one with the new black mac is funny.

However, I disagree with the idea that "It's just a computer. Get over it." It seems like they're trying to say that there's no difference between Mac systems and Windows systems. Utter horseshit. There's a world of difference.

When PCs & macs were running different CPU architectures, was definately true. Have to wonder these days with the IntelMacs.
 
linuxgeek said:
Not surprized considering how low a percentage of the money promised by the Fed has actually been delivered.

Not a good thing with the predictions for the hurricane season looking like they were last year before the el nino interviened.
the corp put in pumps they knew didnt work so they could make the deadline.
 
Well on the upside for vista the better resource management and new cache systems are large performance boosters in places windows was lacking in the past.

I also applaud the broader hardware support, however, all of these things couldve been patched into XP for free, or a nominal upgrade fee.

I couldnt give two squirts of piss less about bitlocker and aeroglass.

As for DX10, they couldve patched it in as well.
 
It all likely could have been done in XP as another service pack. But then they wouldn't have gotten all the revenue from the microsoft tax on most PCs purchased new.

It will be interesting to see if Dell really does expand their selection of no-OS computers beyond the handful in the n-series void of the M$ tax.
 
Oh, and the cheapass bastards didnt even provide recovery discs. It's DIY or pay them 15 bucks plus shipping for them to send a set to you!
 
linuxgeek said:
When PCs & macs were running different CPU architectures, was definately true. Have to wonder these days with the IntelMacs.

The last truly inovative hardware architecture offered to the general public was the Commodore Amiga. It took advantage of the 6800's symetrical clock to interleave CPU and Display processes from a common memory. No one really knew how to take advantage of it.

The basic PC and the Apple products have trumpeted big breakthroughs, but as far as hardware architecture is concerned they are only incremental upgrades.

The big advances have been in the O/S's and although the relative quality can be debated, that's where the rubber has really met the road. I happen to think OSX is superior to anything Billy has churned out. But the fact remains that both do what the users want them to do with enough reliability to hold market share.

Ishmael
 
What I saw of Amiga before it went underground and vaporized looked like they had a clue when it came to hardware and software. Can't say for sure because I never bothered to own one, just had one roomate in college who thought they were the cat's meow.
 
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