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[KingOrfeo]

Please, you demean yourself with such silly bullshit.

Of course he could. Nobody ever took Ryan seriously, and the 2012 campaign gave the people a chance to find out what Romney was really like. Obama could wipe the floor with them in a rematch, he wouldn't even have to work at it.

 

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[Boxlicker101]

That's a quasi lie...because you CAN keep your bullshit HC insurance plan if you want and your company still offers it....no one is stopping you from giving anyone money for substandard service. Happens all day every day.

It's not a freedom lost....keep scrounging.


What EXACTLY are you prohibited from doing today that you could freely do prior to 19JAN2009......??

Name the freedom lost...

Or just admit you're still allowed to do all the same shit you could 8 years ago.

Weren't most of the policies rejected under Obamacare actually individual HC policies worked out between individuals and insurance companies, rather than being paid for by employers? And weren't they tailored to fit the needs of individuals or individual families, rather than being the one-size-fits-all of HC policies provided by employers? And weren't such policies rejected because the gov. wanted policy holders to pay more, whether they needed more coverage or not?

As I recall, requiring post-menopausal women to pay for maternity benefits was one of the biggest complaints of policy holders.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I almost feel sorry for WeedWonk, I've always felt bad about having a battle of wits with the unarmed. It's quite pitiful to watch his sudden and thoughtless Paroxysms of disjointed tantrums.

Resorting to petty 3rd grade insults when pressed with the hard questions.....that's what I thought that famed vettecorps integrity LMFAO.

It's a wonder you made it out of the corps alive...

Weren't most of the policies rejected under Obamacare actually individual HC policies worked out between individuals and insurance companies, rather than being paid for by employers? And weren't they tailored to fit the needs of individuals or individual families, rather than being the one-size-fits-all of HC policies provided by employers? And weren't such policies rejected because the gov. wanted policy holders to pay more, whether they needed more coverage or not?

As I recall, requiring post-menopausal women to pay for maternity benefits was one of the biggest complaints of policy holders.

IDK all the deets...I don't think any one person really does. Except vetteman of COURSE!! LOL but setting national standards for an industry is far from the crushing LW tyranny vette co. tries to make it out to be. Nothing is stopping ANYONE from getting any HC they want...unless broke bitches, in which the RW has no room to say a fucking thing about those people.

What does any of this have to do with lost freedom?

 

[Boxlicker101]

Resorting to petty 3rd grade insults when pressed with the hard questions.....that's what I thought that famed vettecorps integrity LMFAO.

It's a wonder you made it out of the corps alive...



IDK all the deets...I don't think any one person really does. Except vetteman of COURSE!! LOL but setting national standards for an industry is far from the crushing LW tyranny vette co. tries to make it out to be. Nothing is stopping ANYONE from getting any HC they want...unless broke bitches, in which the RW has no room to say a fucking thing about those people.

What does any of this have to do with lost freedom?

Until 2009, no Americans were required to have health insurance or to pay for coverage they neither wanted nor needed. Many people did, because medical expenses can be so high, but there were some who were young and healthy and felt they had better uses for their money than buying health insurance. Those people have now lost that option.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Until 2009, no Americans were required to have health insurance or to pay for coverage they neither wanted nor needed. Many people did, because medical expenses can be so high, but there were some who were young and healthy and felt they had better uses for their money than buying health insurance. Those people have now lost that option.

And that was a freedom that we NEVER should have had and I'm glad it was taken away from us. Good job Obama, Bravo. Not all freedom is good.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Until 2009, no Americans were required to have health insurance or to pay for coverage they neither wanted nor needed. Many people did, because medical expenses can be so high, but there were some who were young and healthy and felt they had better uses for their money than buying health insurance. Those people have now lost that option.

So the freedom lost is the freedom of the irresponsible to shirk their HC expense upon the responsible who pay?

Cry me a fuckin' river..... a bunch of Republicans WOULD bitch about that.

Imposition of standards are not a freedom lost...you keep harping on that but repeating it doesn't make it so.

 

[Boxlicker101]

And that was a freedom that we NEVER should have had and I'm glad it was taken away from us. Good job Obama, Bravo. Not all freedom is good.

In response to earlier questions, this is a freedom that has been taken away from the citizenry under Obama and his minions.

 

[Sean Renaud]

In response to earlier questions, this is a freedom that has been taken away from the citizenry under Obama and his minions.

Fair enough. It's a shame we ever had that freedom but your correct.

Now explain why the Patriot Act isn't hugely worse. We lost more Freedom under Bush with that single document than everything Obama's done. And those were real freedoms that we should have.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Fair enough. It's a shame we ever had that freedom but your correct.

Now explain why the Patriot Act isn't hugely worse. We lost more Freedom under Bush with that single document than everything Obama's done. And those were real freedoms that we should have.

The Patriot Act was passed overwhelmingly by Congress.
http://www.justice.gov/archive/ll/highlights.htm

 

[BotanyBoy]

The Patriot Act was passed overwhelmingly by Congress.
http://www.justice.gov/archive/ll/highlights.htm

ACA also passed.....just because you guys aren't happy about it doesn't make it some unconstitutional treasonous freedom crushing commie plot to destroy america like vettey and the other fringe RW dip shit say it is.

They are just sore fucking LOSERS mal'ing the fuck out like an epileptic at an Daft Punk show over not sticking with St.Ronnies socialized HC system over ACA. I wouldn't be shocked in the slightest to find out a large portion of this is because niggrah in whyt haus.

 

[Sean Renaud]

The Patriot Act was passed overwhelmingly by Congress.
http://www.justice.gov/archive/ll/highlights.htm

What's that got to do with lost freedom?

 

[JohnnySavage]

Nota Bene: Anyone can refuse to sign up for health insurance if they want. They just get hit with a $300 penalty; which doesn't even come close to the burden they place on the rest of the tax payers.

Of course... those that opt not to have health insurance will probably not have to pay the penalty because it is assessed whey they file their taxes, which they are unlikely to do any way.

 

[CandiCame]

Nota Bene: Anyone can refuse to sign up for health insurance if they want. They just get hit with a $300 penalty; which doesn't even come close to the burden they place on the rest of the tax payers.

Of course... those that opt not to have health insurance will probably not have to pay the penalty because it is assessed whey they file their taxes, which they are unlikely to do any way.

It's not always that high, that must be an average. It's $90 per child and $60 per adult. If it's just you and you just have your 1040 with no kids, it's $90, if it's a MFJ or MFS it's $60 per adult, $90 per child, and if it's a single parent it's the MFJ rate. So the only way you get into money is if you have an assload of kids. But if you have the US average 2.5 that'd come up to around the $300 that you just mentioned so I have no idea why I'm breaking this town. I have successfully bored everyone.

 

[CandiCame]

Additionally, that fee is taken out before you take out any refundable credits, so it might not even affect you refund at all. Because say that you have, idk, a schedule C and three kids and you're going MFJ and you decide not to get health insurance. You'll have a fine of $390. Now, say you have a tax liability of around $5000, which is common for a Schedule C. Now, say you come to me and I find that you have some deductible expenses like travel, childcare, etc, AND some stuff that you can deduct over a couple years via depreciation, cars and home office equipment and whatnot. I can find an extra $390 when you /have/ to have that laptop for work. I mean you /had/ to use it. And you do 51% of the shit you do on it for work, right. Nod. Yes. Good. There, it's gone. Now let's do your refundable credits. You got three kids? There's a $1000 refundable deduction per kid right there. Boom, I neutralized what you owe and now you're getting three grand back. Oh, and you're middle class? Well you got a EIC of around $5000. Let's send this in and the government should send you $7000 in about 6 weeks. Enjoy your... uh... fine.

 

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[KingOrfeo]

Here's another example of Obama's attack on your freedom:

Obama to ban bullets by executive action, threatens top-selling AR-15 rifle
BY PAUL BEDARD | FEBRUARY 26, 2015 | 11:41 AM

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2560750

Your freedom to own semi-automatic rifles is well worth attacking.

 

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[KingOrfeo]

Pinhead response.

Please stop posting this kind of content-free snark, forever. It's embarrassing, mainly to you but also to all of us. If that's all you have to say, don't say it.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Here's another example of Obama's attack on your freedom:

Obama to ban bullets by executive action, threatens top-selling AR-15 rifle
BY PAUL BEDARD | FEBRUARY 26, 2015 | 11:41 AM

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2560750

Wait. . .didn't we ban those bullets back in the 90's, how the fuck are these even still around? I don't care, apparently they haven't been a problem but these should have been gone under Clinton.

 

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[Sean Renaud]

No we didn't.

According to your article we did, just the AR got an exception for. . .reasons unexplained. Which again, oh well they haven't been causing a ruckus so I don't care if they stay or if they go. Makes no difference to me. I'm more interested in why these were allowed to stick around in the first place.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Please stop posting KO, almost all that you post is a national embarrassment.

Please stop posting this kind of content-free snark, forever. It's embarrassing, mainly to you but also to all of us. If that's all you have to say, don't say it.

 

[KingOrfeo]

According to your article we did, just the AR got an exception for. . .reasons unexplained. Which again, oh well they haven't been causing a ruckus so I don't care if they stay or if they go. Makes no difference to me. I'm more interested in why these were allowed to stick around in the first place.

I'm more interested in why semi-automatic rifles are allowed to stick around in the first place. No hunter needs those. No home-defender needs those. They have only two conceivable uses to civilians: committing crimes, and getting your dick hard.