Wat’s Carbon Water-N-Stuff Thread - Concepts In Iron And Wood!!!

[BAstoicguy]

Aaron does get the "one-coin" nature of the toss. He's a football player. All else should be avoided lest it imperil you.

PS – never bet on the Jets to win. The curse of Broadway Joe. Blame Joe B. (bad boy, schoolyard enforcer)

 

[BAstoicguy]

'Tis the season, ho-ho-ho, I am literally awash in, inundated with and eating . It is this millennium's fruitcake. But it is good, it's cheddar, like free money.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

I think that Aaron will be confounded a bit with "being somebody." That's a tough one to get over.


Watch our libturds struggle with their/they're/there irrelevance.


"Aw Sweet Jesus (I don't believe in), you typed that!!!"

 

[BAstoicguy]

Have you ever heard anyone posit ANYTHING like this before???

Like, from the last century?

The IPCC and the climate “consensus” believe that essentially all warming since 1750 is due to man’s emissions of CO2 and other greenhouse gases as shown in figure 1 here or in (IPCC, 2021, p. 961). This has led to a 45-year search for the value of the Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity to the doubling of CO2 (“ECS” in °C per 2xCO2). Yet, after spending 45 years trying to calculate the sensitivity of climate to man-made greenhouse gases, the “consensus” has been unable to narrow the uncertainty in their estimates and, if anything, the climate model uncertainty is now larger than in earlier reports(IPCC, 2021, p. 927). It is now clear, at least to me, that modern climate models make many critical assumptions that are poorly supported and sometimes conflict with observations. This is an attempt to explain some of these problems and how they developed over time. It is long past time for the “consensus” to stop ignoring the obvious weaknesses in their 60-year old conceptual model of climate.

Link: HotAir.com

 

[BAstoicguy]

I just ran across and interesting piece at RealClearPolitics, some might find the title off-putting, but it is a well-reasoned piece that provokes thought:

How Barack Obama Built an Omnipotent Thought Machine and How It Was Destroyed, David Samuels, Tablet

To my mind, the point of the story I was reporting, in addition to being an interesting exploration of how the tools of fiction writing could be applied to political messaging on social media as an element of statecraft, was twofold. First, it usefully warned of the potential distance between an underlying reality and an invented reality that could be successfully messaged and managed from the White House, which suggested a new potential for a large-scale disaster like the war in Iraq, which I—like Rhodes and Obama—had opposed from its beginning.

Second, I wanted to show how the new messaging machinery actually operated—my theory being that it was probably a bad idea to allow young White House aides with MFA degrees to create “public opinion” from their iPhones and laptops, and to then present the results of that process as something akin to the outcome of the familiar 20th-century processes of reporting and analysis that had been entrusted to the so-called “fourth estate,” a set of institutions that was in the process of becoming captive to political verticals, which were in turn largely controlled by corporate interests like large pharmaceutical companies and weapons-makers. Hillary Clinton would soon inherit the machinery that Obama and his aides had built along with the keys to the White House. What would she do with it?

https://www.tabletmag.com/feature/rapid-onset-political-enlightenment

 

[ll74]

I just ran across and interesting piece at RealClearPolitics, some might find the title off-putting, but it is a well-reasoned piece that provokes thought:

How Barack Obama Built an Omnipotent Thought Machine and How It Was Destroyed, David Samuels, Tablet




https://www.tabletmag.com/feature/rapid-onset-political-enlightenment

Thank you for sharing and for providing some perspective

 

[BAstoicguy]

"But reducing the question of what happened to Barack Obama’s new American system to the results of a single election is in fact to trivialize the startling nature and ambition of what he built, as well as the shocking suddenness with which it has all gone up in smoke. The master political strategist of his era didn’t simply back a losing horse. Rather, the entire structure he had erected over more than a decade, and which was to have been his legacy, for good or ill, has collapsed entirely. At home and abroad, Obama’s grand vision has been decisively rejected by the people whose lives it was intended to reorder. The mystery is how and why neither Obama nor his army of technocratic operatives and retainers understood the fatal flaw in the new system—until it was too late."

Some people are still victim.




Edit:

"The methodology on which our current universe of political persuasion is based was born before the internet or iPhones existed, in an attempt to do good and win elections while overcoming America’s historical legacy of slavery and racism. Its originator, David Axelrod, was born to be a great American advertising man—his father was a psychologist, and his mother was a top executive at the legendary Mad Men-era New York City ad agency of Young & Rubicam. Instead, following his father’s suicide, Axelrod left New York City for Chicago, where he attended the University of Chicago, and then became a political reporter for the Chicago Tribune. He then became a political consultant who specialized in electing Black mayoral candidates in white-majority cities. In 2008, Axelrod ran the successful insurgent campaigns that first got Barack Obama the Democratic Party nomination over Hillary Clinton, and then elevated him to the White House."

 

[ll74]

"But reducing the question of what happened to Barack Obama’s new American system to the results of a single election is in fact to trivialize the startling nature and ambition of what he built, as well as the shocking suddenness with which it has all gone up in smoke. The master political strategist of his era didn’t simply back a losing horse. Rather, the entire structure he had erected over more than a decade, and which was to have been his legacy, for good or ill, has collapsed entirely. At home and abroad, Obama’s grand vision has been decisively rejected by the people whose lives it was intended to reorder. The mystery is how and why neither Obama nor his army of technocratic operatives and retainers understood the fatal flaw in the new system—until it was too late."

Some people are still victim.




Edit:

"The methodology on which our current universe of political persuasion is based was born before the internet or iPhones existed, in an attempt to do good and win elections while overcoming America’s historical legacy of slavery and racism. Its originator, David Axelrod, was born to be a great American advertising man—his father was a psychologist, and his mother was a top executive at the legendary Mad Men-era New York City ad agency of Young & Rubicam. Instead, following his father’s suicide, Axelrod left New York City for Chicago, where he attended the University of Chicago, and then became a political reporter for the Chicago Tribune. He then became a political consultant who specialized in electing Black mayoral candidates in white-majority cities. In 2008, Axelrod ran the successful insurgent campaigns that first got Barack Obama the Democratic Party nomination over Hillary Clinton, and then elevated him to the White House."

Everyone wants to be relevant in the political space. I have never seen Obama take the defensive or the victim.

 

[BAstoicguy]

"The Iran deal proved that, with the collapse of the reality-establishing function of professional media, which could no longer afford to field teams of independent, experienced reporters, a talented politician in the White House could indeed stand up his own reality, and use the mechanisms of peer-group pressure and aspirational ambition to get others to adopt it. In fact, the higher one climbed on the social and professional ladder, the more vulnerable to such techniques people turned out to be..."

 

[BAstoicguy]

The permission structure machine that Barack Obama and David Axelrod built to replace the Democratic Party was in its essence neither modern nor conservative, though. Rather it is totalitarian in its essence, a device for getting people to act against their beliefs by substituting new and better beliefs through the top-down controlled and leveraged application of social pressure, which among other things eliminates the position of the spectator. The integrity of the individual is violated in order to further the superior interests of the superego of humanity, the party, which knows which beliefs are right and which are wrong. The party is the ghost in the machine, which appears to run on automatic pilot, using the human desire for companionship and social connection as fuel for an effort to detach individuals from their own desires and substitute the dictates of the party, which is granted the unlimited right to enforce its superior opinions on all of mankind.

 

[BAstoicguy]

Neither Greek nor Hebrew literature, which are the two great narrative streams out of which what we know today as Western culture was formed, appear to have any equivalent to what we identify today as internal monologue. Instead, they are filled with talking bushes, plants, and animals. Above all, they are filled with the voices of gods—including God—which talk to humans in nearly every physical location imaginable, from mountaintops to the Road to Tarsus. Abraham, Moses, Ezekiel, Jesus, and Paul all heard voices. According to the Princeton University scholar Julian Jaynes, author of The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind, human consciousness did not arise as a chemical-biological byproduct of human evolution but is instead a learned process based on the recent development and elaboration of metaphorical language. Prior to the development of consciousness, Jaynes argues, humans operated under a previous mentality he called the bicameral (two-chambered) mind, where in place of an internal dialogue, bicameral people regularly experienced auditory hallucinations directing their actions.

Who's it gonna be bitch? Us, or Gawd? God is fiction. We are real.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

I don’t know, I’m kind of fond of God, as long as he is called Allah.


I am inclined to believe my own lying eyes, I can assure you.


I remember how Bill Clinton used to talk down to people, wag his finger and give them a lecture in his most sincere tone while lying through his teeth.


Like, Kathy Willey‘s tits weren’t big enough.

 

[Rebel5soul]

The permission structure machine that Barack Obama and David Axelrod built to replace the Democratic Party was in its essence neither modern nor conservative, though. Rather it is totalitarian in its essence, a device for getting people to act against their beliefs by substituting new and better beliefs through the top-down controlled and leveraged application of social pressure, which among other things eliminates the position of the spectator. The integrity of the individual is violated in order to further the superior interests of the superego of humanity, the party, which knows which beliefs are right and which are wrong. The party is the ghost in the machine, which appears to run on automatic pilot, using the human desire for companionship and social connection as fuel for an effort to detach individuals from their own desires and substitute the dictates of the party, which is granted the unlimited right to enforce its superior opinions on all of mankind.

That predates Obama but he advanced it further than anyone anticipated.

The good news is that the days of the "hive mind" are waning.

 

[BAstoicguy]

Merely on the wane. Unsophisticated minds, burdened by their own affairs, get easily caught up in, everybody I know...

 

[Rebel5soul]

That's always been the seduction of Communism/Socialism. The individual gets the benefits without having to take responsibility for anything. Of course it really doesn't work that way but that's how it's sold.

 

[BAstoicguy]

In any of the -ISMs, and the problem is that to attack its dearly held principles and concepts, most of which topically are altruistic, but are cultish in result so that the rebuttal is taken by the person who holds that faith as a personal attack, i.e., you impugn their giving and caring nature. This make further discussion visceral, especially if they already deem themselves in a special victims' category and you are always the loser in the eyes of the holder of the injustice.

 

[Rebel5soul]

The thing is everyone of the -ism's have a down side, nothing is perfect. I just happen to reject any -ism that breeds sloth and that is exactly what Communism/Socialism do.

 

[HisArpy]

You know nothing about what I do in real life. Unlike you, I do not brag about it.

For you it's difficult to find something to brag about when you got nothing.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Oooops.....maybe I should have fired a warning shot....still, reindeer steak's on the menu for Christmas, boys. Come on over......

 

[coati]

For you it's difficult to find something to brag about when you got nothing.

^^^This school yard response is coming from a blowhard who bragged about being an ambulance chaser.

 

[HisArpy]

^^^This school yard response is coming from a blowhard who bragged about being an ambulance chaser.

<-- is an Ass, not an ambulance chaser.

Please try to keep up with the rest of the class.

 

[BAstoicguy]

The thing is everyone of the -ism's have a down side, nothing is perfect. I just happen to reject any -ism that breeds sloth and that is exactly what Communism/Socialism do.

To me, with no value judgement, they are akin to the church, top-down solutions to salvation.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

<-- is an Ass, not an ambulance chaser.

Please try to keep up with the rest of the class.

Pussies gonna puss. Cunts gonna cunt. And most of all, if you don’t support its lock step Kool-Aid drinking lines of spew, you aid, abet, and give aid and and comfort to the enemy, the tyrant, the traders. Flawed failed judgement, led to by the 2+2 = 264 method, and you really have to wonder.


Stupid fucking raccoon!

 

[coati]

Pussies gonna puss. Cunts gonna cunt. And most of all, if you don’t support its lock step Kool-Aid drinking lines of spew, you aid, abet, and give aid and and comfort to the enemy, the tyrant, the traders. Flawed failed judgement, led to by the 2+2 = 264 method, and you really have to wonder.

Stupid fucking raccoon!

Still obsessing about pussy? You can always suck on one of your gun barrels and pretend it's Chobby.

And, my, my, my, but aren't you defensive about giving aid and comfort to the tyrant and the traders (sic)?

My words do have triggers. Who knew?

 

[coati]

In any of the -ISMs, and the problem is that to attack its dearly held principles and concepts, most of which topically are altruistic, but are cultish in result so that the rebuttal is taken by the person who holds that faith as a personal attack, i.e., you impugn their giving and caring nature. This make further discussion visceral, especially if they already deem themselves in a special victims' category and you are always the loser in the eyes of the holder of the injustice.

Word salad.

If you quit smoking so much dope you might be able to make a cogent point.