Wat’s Carbon Water-N-Stuff Thread - Concepts In Iron And Wood!!!

[ll74]

The first 6 or so minutes, right around 5:40 or so, you'll see and hear the first negligent shot that's accidentally fired by the officer who is handling Pretti's confiscated gun. It goes off behind the officer who fired the kill shot, thinking Pretti fired it. You're right I didn't watch the entire video. Everything I wanted to see happened at the beginning.

There is no evidence that the gun misfired.

It's pure speculation meant to excuse the agents' unnecessary escalation and reaction.

 

[Rightguide]

There is no evidence that the gun misfired.

It's pure speculation meant to excuse the agents' unnecessary escalation and reaction.

Watch the video you big dummy. Pretti's gun does go off, in the hands of a federal agent.

 

[ll74]

Watch the video you big dummy. Pretti's gun does go off, in the hands of a federal agent.

I've watched multiple videos.

None of them show the gun firing. The closeup (read: zoom) of the gun.is not clear enough to see any firing of the gun.

 

[HisArpy]

Find and report one instance of a "paid rioter" in Minnesota.

I'll wait.

Lol, I believe I said the Feds are looking into it, not that there are any.

But, as usual, you jumped to your own conclusion as if it were a fact and proceeded to fuck yourself in public once again.

Good job!

 

[Wat_Tyler]

They have a bit of countin' to do, too, on which they have been quite negligent.

 

[John_von_Neumann]

Lol, I believe I said the Feds are looking into it, not that there are any.

But, as usual, you jumped to your own conclusion as if it were a fact and proceeded to fuck yourself in public once again.

Good job!

Is Ishtard's brain syphilis contagious? I said "find and report," not "you're claiming they exist so where are they?"

But, as usual, you jumped to your own conclusion at if it were a fact and proceeded to fuck yourself in public once again.

Good job!

 

[Rebel5soul]

I've watched multiple videos.

None of them show the gun firing. The closeup (read: zoom) of the gun.is not clear enough to see any firing of the gun.

Get a clue. It doesn't fucking matter whether the gun discharged or not. The announcement of a gun during a physical altercation is all that's needed to provoke lethal response.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Get a clue. It doesn't fucking matter whether the gun discharged or not. The announcement of a gun during a physical altercation is all that's needed to provoke lethal response from police.

fyp;yw

 

[ll74]

Get a clue. It doesn't fucking matter whether the gun discharged or not.

Then why are you dipshits trying so desperately to say that it did?

The announcement of a gun during a physical altercation is all that's needed to provoke lethal response.

Lol
Of course

 

[Rebel5soul]

Then why are you dipshits trying so desperately to say that it did?


Lol
Of course

I do believe I've referred to it as ONE THEORY you shit for brains wannabe mind reader. ^^^^Fucking moron.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

 

[ll74]

I do believe I've referred to it as ONE THEORY you shit for brains wannabe mind reader. ^^^^Fucking moron.

Lol...of course

One theory is that agents escalated and provoked unnecessarily and then shot him in the back after beating him.

Oh wait ...that was what every video showed plain as day.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

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[DeluxAuto]

The first 6 or so minutes, right around 5:40 or so, you'll see and hear the first negligent shot that's accidentally fired by the officer who is handling Pretti's confiscated gun. It goes off behind the officer who fired the kill shot, thinking Pretti fired it. You're right I didn't watch the entire video. Everything I wanted to see happened at the beginning.

 

[DeluxAuto]

I bet each one of the MAGAts on this thread rocks one.

 

[Rebel5soul]

 

[Wat_Tyler]

The Buddha's path of practice is called the Noble Eightfold path. The eight components of this path, as presented in traditional order, could be briefly described as follows:

1. Right View (Understanding). This is the right way of interpreting and viewing the world. It involves the realization of the three signata in all phenomena, and of the Four Noble Truths as being applicable to the human condition. More generally it involves the abandonment of all dogmatically held wrong views.

2. Right Intention (Thought). The Buddha argued that all human thought and action spring from basic "intentions," "dispositions," or "roots," which are capable of deliberate cultivation, training and control. The three roots of wrong, unwholesome or "unskillful" action are: Greed, Aversion and Delusion. The right intention which the Buddhist path requires, is an intention which is free from these roots. The Buddha called the intention "that is free from greed and lust, free from ill-will, free from cruelty."

3. Right Speech. Since speech is the most powerful means of communication, the Buddha emphasizes the cultivation of right modes of speech. These have been described as avoiding falsehood and adhering to the truth; abstaining from tale-bearing and instead promoting harmony; refraining from harsh language and cultivating gentle and courteous speech; avoiding vain, irresponsible and foolish talk, and speaking in reasoned terms on subjects of value. Naturally right speech includes in the modern context right ways of communication whatever the medium used.

4. Right Action. This refers to willful acts done by a person, whether by body or mind. Under the former it involves such forms of ethical conduct as not killing (or harming) living beings, theft, sexual wrong-doing, etc. On the positive side right action, also called wholesome deeds, involves acts of loving-kindness (mettâ), compassion, sympathetic joy, generosity, etc.

5. Right Livelihood. This involves not choosing an occupation that brings suffering to others, e.g. trading in living beings (including humans), arms, drugs, poisons, etc.; slaughtering, fishing, soldiering, sooth-saying, trickery, usury, etc. This provides the economic blueprint for a truly Buddhist society.

6. Right Effort. This has been described as "the effort of avoiding or overcoming evil and unwholesome things, and of developing and maintaining wholesome things." Right effort enables an individual to cultivate the right frame of mind in order to accomplish the ethical requirements under right speech, right action and right livelihood. It is generally presented as a factor of mental training, enabling individuals to develop the sublime states of loving-kindness (mettâ) compassion, sympathetic joy, and equanimity. However it has a general applicability and the effort could be directed to all wholesome activities.

7. Right Mindfulness. This is the basic Buddhist technique of cultivating awareness. Although viewed as a meditation component in fact right awareness has a wider applicability.

8. Right Concentration. This is the concentration of mind associated with wholesome consciousness which could be achieved through the systematic cultivation of meditation. Progress along this line is indicated by the achievement of the different levels of "absorption."

 

[Lazaran]

The Buddha's path of practice is called the Noble Eightfold path. The eight components of this path, as presented in traditional order, could be briefly described as follows:

1. Right View (Understanding). This is the right way of interpreting and viewing the world. It involves the realization of the three signata in all phenomena, and of the Four Noble Truths as being applicable to the human condition. More generally it involves the abandonment of all dogmatically held wrong views.

2. Right Intention (Thought). The Buddha argued that all human thought and action spring from basic "intentions," "dispositions," or "roots," which are capable of deliberate cultivation, training and control. The three roots of wrong, unwholesome or "unskillful" action are: Greed, Aversion and Delusion. The right intention which the Buddhist path requires, is an intention which is free from these roots. The Buddha called the intention "that is free from greed and lust, free from ill-will, free from cruelty."

3. Right Speech. Since speech is the most powerful means of communication, the Buddha emphasizes the cultivation of right modes of speech. These have been described as avoiding falsehood and adhering to the truth; abstaining from tale-bearing and instead promoting harmony; refraining from harsh language and cultivating gentle and courteous speech; avoiding vain, irresponsible and foolish talk, and speaking in reasoned terms on subjects of value. Naturally right speech includes in the modern context right ways of communication whatever the medium used.

4. Right Action. This refers to willful acts done by a person, whether by body or mind. Under the former it involves such forms of ethical conduct as not killing (or harming) living beings, theft, sexual wrong-doing, etc. On the positive side right action, also called wholesome deeds, involves acts of loving-kindness (mettâ), compassion, sympathetic joy, generosity, etc.

5. Right Livelihood. This involves not choosing an occupation that brings suffering to others, e.g. trading in living beings (including humans), arms, drugs, poisons, etc.; slaughtering, fishing, soldiering, sooth-saying, trickery, usury, etc. This provides the economic blueprint for a truly Buddhist society.

6. Right Effort. This has been described as "the effort of avoiding or overcoming evil and unwholesome things, and of developing and maintaining wholesome things." Right effort enables an individual to cultivate the right frame of mind in order to accomplish the ethical requirements under right speech, right action and right livelihood. It is generally presented as a factor of mental training, enabling individuals to develop the sublime states of loving-kindness (mettâ) compassion, sympathetic joy, and equanimity. However it has a general applicability and the effort could be directed to all wholesome activities.

7. Right Mindfulness. This is the basic Buddhist technique of cultivating awareness. Although viewed as a meditation component in fact right awareness has a wider applicability.

8. Right Concentration. This is the concentration of mind associated with wholesome consciousness which could be achieved through the systematic cultivation of meditation. Progress along this line is indicated by the achievement of the different levels of "absorption."

Super "woke" Wat…



Wat



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

 

[Wat_Tyler]

How funny that so many people think that education is linear when it's really circular.


On the other hand, schooling is linear . . . and it should never be confused with education.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Our next pandemic needs to be a real one:

https://www.census.gov/popclock/

 

[John_von_Neumann]

Don't need it.

The US Is Flirting With Its First-Ever Population Decline​

https://archive.ph/DranI

If there’s one single consistent advantage the United States has carried since its founding, it is its ability to draw talent and expand its population. Now, as the country prepares to celebrate its 250th birthday and ponders its appetite for President Donald Trump’s crackdown on immigration, the US risks recording a historic and economic milestone decades ahead of schedule: Based on at least one respected estimate, 2026 may see the first real population decline in American history.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

 

[Noor]

Which was reversed on appeal. Something you either don't know, because the source your listening to purposefully didn't tell you, or you're omitting.




Which was, again, reversed on appeal. Essentially the lower court order exceeded the court's authority AND merely ordered ICE to "obey the law" which is considered constitutionally vague and ambiguous.

I'm of the opinion that those kinds of orders are ones where the court is intentionally setting the stage for a contempt hearing since anything the gov does can be claimed to be a violation. Thus, the court isn't dispensing the law, its dispensing activism which is based on actual bias.

They do tend to rally those faithful to the cause and stir emotional outrage though.



No they don't. In one, an ICE agent was illegally trafficking kids. That's not in his job description any more than a cop can deal drugs as part of his job.

An officer involved shooting while in uniform and performing police business isn't the same thing. Even acknowledging that a cop can commit murder (like in the Floyd case) doesn't get you past the Federal preemption in this case because there are no facts to show that the officer acted in any illegal manner.

You can believe differently but you need actual facts, which a reasonable person would agree with, to say otherwise and those facts don't exist here. Pretti assaulted the agents, destroyed property, and resisted arrest while armed. As soon as the gun was discovered, a reasonable police officer would be afraid for his life/safety. When the gun discharged that was enough for the officers to shoot.

Want to hear what else would be a sufficient impetus for the officer to shoot in self defense even if the gun hadn't gone off? A firecracker thrown by someone in the mob.

Think about that the next time someone in the mob lights a fuse.



If the State arrests any ICE agents for the shooting, the first motion before the court will be to remove the case from State court to Federal Court. The State court judge will either; A) deny the motion, or; B) grant it based on the law and precedent. If the State court denies the motion, that will be appealed as a writ in Federal Court, which will grant the writ and transfer jurisdiction to Federal Court. Where it will be dismissed.

If the State court judge grants the motion for transfer of jurisdiction to Federal Court, it will be dismissed by the Federal Court after a 12(b)(6) motion - failure to state an actionable claim (based on immunity and self defense).

This is the law and it ends the same way no matter which route is taken. The only other possibility is that the appeals court refuses to reverse the State court judge's denial and it goes to trial. Upon verdict the outcome can be appealed immediately to the Federal Appeals court as a violation of statutory and Constitutional Rights. At which point the verdict can be vacated and the matter dismissed.

Those who want to see the agent tried and convicted anyway, even knowing he'll eventually have any guilty verdict annulled, should understand that if that happens they would have no immunity for their part in how it goes down. The agent can sue the DA, the cops who arrested him, the trial judge, and the Governor in their personal capacity as well as the State. Any individual found to have materially participated in the illegal persecution of the agent will then face a federal criminal indictment under Section 292.

The taxpayers aren't immune either, they will pay higher taxes as a result of the money paid to the agent.

All in all, this narrative only ends in 1 way. Prolonging it only makes it worse and causes more suffering. The solution is to just stop pushing the losing narrative.

Just curious which bars have you passed?

 

[HisArpy]

Just curious which bars have you passed?

I'm only licensed to practice in California.