Weightloss

[Needssome]

No exercise for me today and I'm starting my ice cream diet....35 degrees Celsius and with the humidex it feels like 45 degrees Celsius and a smog alert and I have no air conditioning! Guess this means I don't need to visit a sauna - I'll be living in one.

 

[buttercupdh]

Thanks looking on the bright side, Needs! We are living in the perfect facial environment. And that's the spa kind of facial, guys!

Our skin will be gorgeous in a couple of days. I can see the improvement already!

Take care, and keep thinking positively. You have to like yourself for any of this to work.

Bye!

 

[Nicki19]

Weight loss... now there's something I know a thing or two about...

First of all, never do fad diets. Unless you're trying to lose weight temporarily for some reason (to fit into a wedding dress, high school reunion, etc), they're not the best approach.

Second, excercise. Cardio is best, the longer the better. Weights will add on more muscle, cardio burns more calories while toning muscle. Try to work excercse in as a routine. If you can get to a gym, great... if you have a gym partner to remind you why youre there, even better. Otherwise just try to do what you do every day in a more athletic way (RUN up and down the stairs, walk to the store, go for a nightly walk/jog, offer to walk your sister's/neighbor's/friend's dog...).

Three, eat correctly. Yes, you can eat ice cream... just dont have it for every meal. Balance yourself. Try to make lunch your biggest meal, so that you have time to burn off what you've eaten. Dont eat later than 3 hrs before your bedtime. Always eat breakfast. It starts your metabolism in the morning. Otherwise your body doesnt fully understand that its supposed to be burning off fuel until lunch time. People that eat a healthy breakfast on a regular basis are on average 8 pounds lighter. You can eat carbohydrates, just dont over do it. And there are some carbohydrates taht are better than others, for instance fructose versus sugar cane (fruit vs candy bar) - the fruit will do you much more good. Beware of the Atkins diet. Although this is good for some EXTREME cases or immediate/temporary loss, it can be EXTREMLY unhealthy. A lack of carbs can lead to a loss of stored protein.. it can get nasty.

Four, stay hydrated. Often times people mistake thirst for hunger. Keep water handy for when you get hit with a snack craving. Stay away from soda (and even juice mostly) - at 110+ calories a serving, its a sure way to stack on calories for really no reason. Also, when your body is properly hydrated it is more efficient at burning fat and carbs.

Five, ask your doctor. Make sure that there are no outstanding reasons for you not to do certain things. Some people need more sugars per day than others, etc. Although as long as you remember that moderation is key you should be just fine, it is always better to be safe than sorry.

Ive lost weight in bad ways (running 5 miles a day while eating 15 grams of fat a WEEK), and in good ways (moderation, moderation, MODERATION).... good ways have MUCH better results, more healthy and much more long-lasting.

Good luck!
-Nicki

 

[dankei]

The Adkin's diet is not a fad diet, it has been around for 50 years.
The Adkin's diet is a very safe and sound diet. The people who are the most against it are those who don't know anything about it or know little about it. If you are considering using this sort of diet you are supposed to read the book first and then get a blood test. If you follow the diet it is safe and works wonders. Americans are heavier because of too many carbohydrates NOT the fat content of foods.

The fact is that most diets work if they are followed correctly. The biggest problem with diets is not starting them but staying on them. That's why the Adkin's diet works. The variety of foods that you can have makes it easy to follow. I love potatoes but instead of (regularly) having a steak with baked or mashed potatoes I'll have the steak with broccoli instead. This is an easy substitution and makes a huge difference. Actually, it makes a smaller difference, which is what you want from a weight loss diet.

 

[Guest]

 

[Etoile]

One thing I like about WW is that I can eat whatever I want. It's not low-carb, low-whatever, it's just food. On the Atkins diet, my girlfriend went back to eating meat...I couldn't do that. And I don't have to buy special foods and stuff. (Okay, I do anyway, love those frozen dinners!)

 

[dankei]

Incorrect impressions of the Adkin's Diet

I have to disagree here.
A fad diet isnt a "new" diet, just a quick fix. Also, any diet that cuts out any thing, is a fad diet. You should be able to eat ANYTHING you want with moderation.

There are several sites out there about dieting. I like Ivillage best. I have yet to see any of them support the adkins diet.


Oh and nedsome, frozen yogurt is a great alternative for icecream. The soft serve is even better then Ice cream!

I'm happy to hear that you have had success with your particular diet program. BTW, don't feel as if I'm picking on you, I just happened to be replying to your posts because you are one of my favorites here on LIT and I always read your posts when I come across them.

But your comments about the Adkin's diet are many of the same comments that are incorrectly used to describe the diet by the types of site that you mentioned. You did mention moderation and that is precisely what the Adkin's diet is all about. It's not about no carbs it's about moderating your carbs. It is also about moderating your fat intake as well as excercising regularly. The Adkin's Diet doesn't eliminate anything. It does eliminate some things for the first 14 days but then you gradually begin to add those things back to your diet in moderation. At no time has Dr. Adkin's ever told anyone to eat a high fat diet nor to eat 10 lb. of steak everyday. He does say that NO FAT diets are bad for you and they are. He also points out that any processed food that are labeled "No Fat" or "Low Fat" have much higher carbohydrate counts than the regular versions of those foods.

Americans have really bought this low aft and no fat diet crap. A lean steak in very low fat but steak is a no no on most of those fad low fat diets.

Look at the head lines from the major news organizations in the past two years: (paraphrasing)

"Americans exercising more than ever"
"Americans consuming "low fat" and "no fat" products more than ever"
"America's fitness industry booming"
"Americans more obese than ever"

How can all these stories be true? Because while they are all true they are not accurate. Americans ARE consuming more "low fat" (hi carbohydrate) products. They are eating two bags of "low fat" potato chips instead of eating a hand full of the regular chips.

Moderation is best and that is exactly what the Adkin's diet is all about.

 

[Etoile]

I hate to say this, dankei, but you sound like you're reciting propaganda yourself. I believe those may have been your experiences, but it seems like a very one-sided account.

 

[Guest]

Re: Incorrect impressions of the Adkin's Diet

 

[SEX_VAMPYRE]

I have lost 16 pounds

One thing I like about WW is that I can eat whatever I want. It's not low-carb, low-whatever, it's just food. On the Atkins diet, my girlfriend went back to eating meat...I couldn't do that. And I don't have to buy special foods and stuff. (Okay, I do anyway, love those frozen dinners!)

Hello,

I was weighted in this afternoon and pleased to learn that lost up to 16 pounds.

This was accomplished by eating the number of points reccomended to me on the Weight Watchers program.

My weight loss pace would increase if I exercised. That is my achilles heel.

 

[Guest]

Re: I have lost 16 pounds

 

[GuyJD]

So has anybody ever lost weight? What was your secret to success?
So if anyone can help me...preferably before I hit 100 posts so I can put a really good nude up for my AV...I'd be ever so grateful.....

Several years ago, I lost 60 pounds in about 5 months. At the time, I was using a supplement stack of ephedrine, caffeine, and aspirin. Bodyfat was, literally, melting off of me at 3 pounds a week. Of course, I eliminated fast foods, watched what ate, and worked out daily (except on weekends). My metabolism increased to a point that I could occassionally eat a chocolate bar or doughnuts and never gain an ounce. And let me tell you....It felt great to have to go to the police store to buy an entire wardrobe for work, including new duty belt and gun belt.

Unfotunately, ephedrine was taken off of the market in 1997 by the Food & Drug Administration. Other forms of ephedrine are still available, like ephadra and Mu Huang. However, they aren't as effective as ephedrine. I"ve heard that Xanadrine is very effective.

Good luck.
Email or PM if you need any help or advise.

 

[dankei]

I hate to say this, dankei, but you sound like you're reciting propaganda yourself. I believe those may have been your experiences, but it seems like a very one-sided account.

I can see where someone might get the impression that I was reciting propaganda but no one who has actually read the Adkin's book could possibly think so. No diet will work the same for everyone, and Dr. Adkins says that up front. I was just pointing out the common misconceptions of the Adkins diet, because most people who have an opinion of the diet (even if they think that they have tried it) have not read the book. They heard about a diet that lets you eat meat and butter and eggs and other good stuff and they jump in and over eat.

For those who might be interested and haven't read the book (and probably will never read the book, even if they try the diet) here are the basics of the Adkins diet:
*Exercise regularly
*Limit the amounts of breads that you eat
*limit the amount of sugar that you eat (especially processed sugars)
*Limit the amount of carbohydrates that you eat (Americans eat way too many)
*Basically just use common sense

Again, anyone who tells you that this is not the basic Adkins diet hasn't read the book, and is just reciting what they have heard from someone else who hadn't read the book.

Here's a question that most people will get wrong: What's the most fattening part of a spaghetti and meat balls dinner? Correct answer: The pasta!

 

[dankei]

Re: Re: Weightloss

Several years ago, I lost 60 pounds in about 5 months. At the time, I was using a supplement stack of ephedrine, caffeine, and aspirin. Bodyfat was, literally, melting off of me at 3 pounds a week. Of course, I eliminated fast foods, watched what ate, and worked out daily (except on weekends). My metabolism increased to a point that I could occassionally eat a chocolate bar or doughnuts and never gain an ounce. And let me tell you....It felt great to have to go to the police store to buy an entire wardrobe for work, including new duty belt and gun belt.

Unfotunately, ephedrine was taken off of the market in 1997 by the Food & Drug Administration. Other forms of ephedrine are still available, like ephadra and Mu Huang. However, they aren't as effective as ephedrine. I"ve heard that Xanadrine is very effective.

Good luck.
Email or PM if you need any help or advise.

I don't know anything about ephedrine except what I have read in the news but I am always reluctant take any type of pills. Ephedrine aside, you would have had great results by just exercising, avoiding fast foods and snack foods, because this will change your metabolism. When I lived in Spain I basically had two chocolate covered doughnuts and a 16 oz. can of Coke every morning for breakfast, and drank at least one beer almost daily and I lost 30 lb. in 6 months. How can this be possible? Because I didn't have a car there and had to walk and use public transportation which gave me much more exercise than what I got living in Los Angeles and I ate my big meal at lunch and there wasn't a fast food restaurant on every corner.

To everyone out there who wants to loose weight it is amazing what just walking an hour a day can do for you. And it doesn't have to be a consecutive hour.

 

[Needssome]

Re: Re: Weightloss

Several years ago, I lost 60 pounds in about 5 months. At the time, I was using a supplement stack of ephedrine, caffeine, and aspirin. Bodyfat was, literally, melting off of me at 3 pounds a week. Of course, I eliminated fast foods, watched what ate, and worked out daily (except on weekends). My metabolism increased to a point that I could occassionally eat a chocolate bar or doughnuts and never gain an ounce. And let me tell you....It felt great to have to go to the police store to buy an entire wardrobe for work, including new duty belt and gun belt.

Unfotunately, ephedrine was taken off of the market in 1997 by the Food & Drug Administration. Other forms of ephedrine are still available, like ephadra and Mu Huang. However, they aren't as effective as ephedrine. I"ve heard that Xanadrine is very effective.

Good luck.
Email or PM if you need any help or advise.

Ummmm...wasn't ephedrine taken off the market because it can cause heart attacks? And can't caffeine pills cause heart problems and become addictive? Sorry....I only do things the natural way.....I try to avoid drugs of any sort (alcohol, cigarettes)...I mean I've never so much as smoked a cigarette and I've only had 3 sips of wine in my entire life....Forget anything harder! I even went through a phase where I'd only drink caffeine free diet pops and then I heard about how bad aspartame can be and I stopped that as well! I've just started cutting down my pop intake and I'm down to 1-2 a week max from having one once a day. I don't have a car so I have to walk everywhere (I'm also cheap so if I can walk it I will and skip the bus). Right now I'm avoiding exercise because the smog is so bad that the second I walked outside this afternoon I had trouble breathing. I'm waiting for the weather to go better before I do that...And I certainly know that frozen yogurt is better than ice cream - This is the first summer in 5 years I haven't worked at an ice cream parlour (which is probably for the best). Only problem is I hate frozen yogurt and some of the hard kinds are just as high in calories.

Ooh.....Something I learned today on Canada AM - 1/4 cup serving of banana chips has as many calories as a McDonald's quarter pounder.....They're deep fried in coconut oil which is really high in saturated fat and they add sugar to them as well - Not a healthy snack whatsoever.. That's just for all those people out there who think it's healthy because it's made with fruit. The same thing goes for vegetable chips. Also Soy "ice cream" is also really high in sugar and calories...

 

[Etoile]

originally posted by SEX_VAMPYRE

Hello,

I was weighted in this afternoon and pleased to learn that lost up to 16 pounds.

This was accomplished by eating the number of points reccomended to me on the Weight Watchers program.

My weight loss pace would increase if I exercised. That is my achilles heel.

That's AWESOME! Way to go! How long have you been on the program? My weigh-ins are on Fridays, but because I am only in the online program I can do it myself.

 

[Guest]

 

[Etoile]

originally posted by dankei
I can see where someone might get the impression that I was reciting propaganda but no one who has actually read the Adkin's book could possibly think so. No diet will work the same for everyone, and Dr. Adkins says that up front. I was just pointing out the common misconceptions of the Adkins diet, because most people who have an opinion of the diet (even if they think that they have tried it) have not read the book. They heard about a diet that lets you eat meat and butter and eggs and other good stuff and they jump in and over eat.

I freely admit I don't know much about the Atkins diet. My girlfriend knows more than I do, as she's tried it. (And yes, she really has - she doesn't "think she has") But whether I know anything or not, it still sounds like propaganda. Have you nothing negative to say about it? How about having to hold a little test strip into your urine stream every so often? Surely that's a drag sometimes. If it is working for you, dankei, great! Congratulations! But until you present more than a one-sided view, I'll think your statements seem like propaganda. You keep saying how great it is. That's what all spin is about: how great it is. But it's still spin.

And no, I don't think you're just copying out of a book. If you were, you'd have spelled Atkins right all this time.

Just my two cents - not picking on anybody personally.

 

[Etoile]

Oh, I forgot to mention something. I have been on Dexedrine, by prescription, since I was 12 years old. It's my medication for ADHD (yes, adults can have it! mine is pretty severe) but it's also related to Dexatrim before they made it Dexatrim Natural or whatever it is now. I can't help wondering if it has affected my weight at all...I have been on it so long (wow, almost 10 years now!) that it's hard to tell.

 

[Susano]

Umm I thought it was the Oilve oil and the mozzerella and Parmasian I put all over it.

Oh and the garlic bread.


On my diet. I ate pasta 2-3 times a week.

Adkins would cringe if he know I would eat a Large baked tato with Fat Free sour cream, low fat cheese and chicken on top of it about 2 times a week.



I do think differnt diets work for different people.

Actually, the Olive oil is just about the healthiest fat you can eat; the mozzerella and parmesan, while less healthy, have a good amount of protein with an excellent amino acid profile; and the garlic is good for your heart.

The keto sticks are an indispensible part of a ketogenic diet (like Atkins). They even have carb blocking pills now that can help you stay in ketosis. There's variations like the cyclical ketogenic diet, and the targeted ketogenic diet. But I'd suggest going to the forum at www.bodybuilding.com and talking to fitnessman. He knows more than Dr. Atkins about ketogenics. Par Deus, there, is unbelievably knowledgable as well. He runs a supplement company. And Big Cat is a Belgian graduate student in Biochemistry. Last time I checked, he was cut down for a conteset at 235 lbs., 7% body fat. It's the board to ask about nutrition and fitness.

 

[Dougy]

I have lost 14 pounds by simply watching what I shove in my mouth (that's just asking for a smartass comment, isn't it), and going out for a brisk 30-40 minute walk every day. The body does have a tendency to plateau, though...so you may lose some weight right off the start and then not lose any for a while. The best thing to do is just to do the exercise, eat sensibly and not weigh yourself too often.

 

[Etoile]

originally posted by Dougy
I have lost 14 pounds by simply watching what I shove in my mouth (that's just asking for a smartass comment, isn't it), and going out for a brisk 30-40 minute walk every day. The body does have a tendency to plateau, though...so you may lose some weight right off the start and then not lose any for a while. The best thing to do is just to do the exercise, eat sensibly and not weigh yourself too often.

Congrats! I wish I had that kind of discipline.
Oh, and: INSERT SMARTASS COMMENT HERE

 

[It'sasecret]

I have recently started an excise program to loose weight as well. Weight Watchers is an excellent program. I have done it before with excellent results, I just did not stick with it. I am now going to try it again, but on my own without paying them and going to meetings. Maybe we should start a new thread for all of us trying to loose weight were we can check in maybe weekly with a sort of "weigh in"...

 

[Etoile]

originally posted by It'sasecret
I have recently started an excise program to loose weight as well. Weight Watchers is an excellent program. I have done it before with excellent results, I just did not stick with it. I am now going to try it again, but on my own without paying them and going to meetings. Maybe we should start a new thread for all of us trying to loose weight were we can check in maybe weekly with a sort of "weigh in"...

Sounds like a good idea to me! They have that kind of thing on the WW website, people check in and say hi and things like that. I'd be all for a thread here...I don't really participate in the message boards there.

 

[dankei]

I freely admit I don't know much about the Atkins diet. My girlfriend knows more than I do, as she's tried it. (And yes, she really has - she doesn't "think she has") But whether I know anything or not, it still sounds like propaganda. Have you nothing negative to say about it? How about having to hold a little test strip into your urine stream every so often? Surely that's a drag sometimes. If it is working for you, dankei, great! Congratulations! But until you present more than a one-sided view, I'll think your statements seem like propaganda. You keep saying how great it is. That's what all spin is about: how great it is. But it's still spin.

And no, I don't think you're just copying out of a book. If you were, you'd have spelled Atkins right all this time.

Just my two cents - not picking on anybody personally.

You know, I thought that it was spelled with a "t" but I was just following what someone else wrote. Of course I could have just looked at the cover of the book but that would have been way too much trouble.

I think that you should read my posts again because I have not been saying how great the diet is I've just been correcting some misconceptions. On these point there is only one side and that is the correct side. It's not debatable, the diet either advocates something or it doesn't.

About the ketostix: You don't HAVE TO hold them in your urine stream. It is just a better way of motivating yourself to stay on the diet. Also it is no big deal to do so... after all you have to go whether or not you use the test strips so it is not like you're making any special trips to the rest room. Really, is there anyone out there who would find that to be a burden?

As for finding something negative about the diet there is really nothing that is negative about it except for the fact that it is after all still a diet, which requires discipline. The secret for most people being able to stay on their diet plan is seeing results and the Atkins plan shows results the very first day. Depending on how over weight a person is they will lose 10 to 14 lb. in the first 2 weeks, if they follow the diet correctly. After that the weight loss is less each week because you begin to gradually add the carbohydrates (but not from sugar) back into your diet. The program is designed to loose a big portion of your weight very fast but loose the last 10 or so lb. over a longer period of time. That is why you don't gain the weight back. So no, there is nothing negative about the diet unless you call having to follow it a negative. Weight Watchers seems to work as well but only if you follow it correctly.

Of course the biggest factors in weight are life style and eating habits. If you are over weight you'll never loose it unless you change these two factors.