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In my case, don't worry too much about me. I am wondering a lot about what is going to happen, how people will react, but I have made peace with myself, and the fact that I am gender dysphoric. Because of this, don't feel awkward, at least in my presence. Its nice to have friends who know, and it doesn't matter if you can or can't 'lend support' in that sense. Having someone to talk to is good enough.

moot updated the main page, but I can't find the host dns file he is talking about. Is it possible I just don't have it? (I am on laptop wih DSL connection, if it matters)
 
Frankly, I'm not sure if flushing your DNS servers will help, regardless. If you flush them, and your ISPs still have the numbers wrong, they'll just give you the wrong ones again. That's why he mentions that you way have to wait a few days.

I think the reason I'm feeling alright right now is that I'm also in a peaceful state with myself at the moment too. Though it's strange, I feel like I can't say for sure whether I'm A:Gender dysphoric or B:Not gender dysphoric. People seem to imply that it's either that you're one or the other, but I feel like I fall somewhere in between. x.x
 
Gender is not black and white, regardless of what people have told you. It is quite a scale, ranging from neutral to girly and boyish. It all depends on where you fall on the scale.

Girl-----------Neutral-----------boy

YOu could potentially fall anywhere on this grid. for me, I am about

Girl------V----Neutral-----------boy

there. This is a generalisation, there are a few individuals who cannot even be defined by this, so it isnt an end all be all.
 
Hannah_tan said:
Gender is not black and white, regardless of what people have told you. It is quite a scale, ranging from neutral to girly and boyish. It all depends on where you fall on the scale.

Girl-----------Neutral-----------boy

YOu could potentially fall anywhere on this grid. for me, I am about

Girl------V----Neutral-----------boy

there. This is a generalisation, there are a few individuals who cannot even be defined by this, so it isnt an end all be all.
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Yeah, I think I see myself somewhat the same way... maybe a few notches more to the middle.
 
That's about how I feel, I'm just used to having 'How do I know if I'm really fully gender dysphoric?' answered with 'You'll know.' Which, of course, doesn't help me when I fall under most of the symptoms but not all of them. x_x

But oh well. I also feel kind of bad about something. We've all seen the posts on /b/ where some guy wants to hit on a nice-looking trap, but the traps in the topic who want nothing to do with it because they're doing it to feel normal feel kind of insulted. But it's strange, because I feel like I'm on both sides of those camps as well. x_x;
 
Mirror_tan said:
Yeah, I think I see myself somewhat the same way... maybe a few notches more to the middle.
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I've got no idea where exactly I fit on that, somewhere between the t in neutral and the midpoint between girl and neutral. Somewhere in that range, I think.
 
ArcheKlaine said:
That's about how I feel, I'm just used to having 'How do I know if I'm really fully gender dysphoric?' answered with 'You'll know.' Which, of course, doesn't help me when I fall under most of the symptoms but not all of them. x_x

But oh well. I also feel kind of bad about something. We've all seen the posts on /b/ where some guy wants to hit on a nice-looking trap, but the traps in the topic who want nothing to do with it because they're doing it to feel normal feel kind of insulted. But it's strange, because I feel like I'm on both sides of those camps as well. x_x;
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I said in last night's thread, I do have a bit of a fetish side, and also part that is genuinely TG. I kind of negotiate is as my true self being partly male and partly female, and part that likes to dress up and have fun.

I view myself as overall indecisive as a person. I am ignostic (agnostic, except I believe religion is largely irrelevant anyways), male/female, dominant/submissive, and so on... my identity is overall flexible, I'm like a chameleon.
 
In those respects, we're largely alike, then. People always hated how I don't like making decisions. Though out of those decisions, male/female is the only one I'm undecided on. I love being submissive, and religious beliefs have always been irrelevant to me. :heart:
 
ArcheKlaine said:
In those respects, we're largely alike, then. People always hated how I don't like making decisions. Though out of those decisions, male/female is the only one I'm undecided on. I love being submissive, and religious beliefs have always been irrelevant to me. :heart:
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I hate making decisions too. People don't really hate me for it though, I often end up as an arbitrator in other people's disputes...and I hate deciding in favor of one or the other, so I usually negotiate a compromise between the two...

I'm lawful neutral in D&D terms, lol.

EDIT: Oh yeah and thanks for the tucking tricks! I tried it this morning and did it with help from a very cold shower.
 
Hah, my friends hate that I don't always agree with them either, and I always end up getting in trouble for defending people who others feel shouldn't be given a second thought. I can't help it because I end up being the arbitrator just because I feel sympathy for people without trying x.x
Being someone who does play DnD, I have a hard time playing characters who aren't neutral good. Almost always neutral good or true neutral. I had friends who had never believed someone could play a true neutral character, but they said I showed them how it could work. XD

Heh, I tried tucking in on tuesday night's trap thread. Fun and comfy, surprisingly. I wish I had reasons do it more often. <_<;
 
man, /b/ is blinky today. i know about the server stuff, but its up for a minute, then down the next. oh well.


I'll have to play with the cold water trick when I shower tommorow.


Still glad we could all get together here. Nice to have friends, you know?
 
I wasnt in bad shape, but having encouragement is a good thing (especially when you are trying to diet... I need to be able to fight cravings, you know?) by the by, wombat talked to me on AIM earlier, and we got into a discussion about my frame. So, i used mirror-tan's strategy.. and well.. here http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b375/Realistic2_/Me/frame2-2.jpg

Can my frame pull this off? I think I can... but with almost no leeway...

Also, my face is supposed to be like that... untill I am ready for a full shot. Also, please don't put this on /b/.
 
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Hum, I can't tell, I'm bad with framing things. Also, feel free to AIM me if you want to talk sometime. :3
 
I dunno, I need to see the full body to see, because women more or less have a somewhat of an hourglass shape, with more mass on the bottom because of wide hips. But also female metabolism is more likely to put weight on the hips and legs rather than the waist.

Face is also difficult. I think there are biometric measurements comparing face feature differences between males and females.

1] prominent supra-orbital (brow) ridges (frontal bossing) resulting
in deep set appearing eyes

2] flatter and narrower eyebrows

3] slightly narrower eyes

4] eyes less "wide open" (eye lids slightly closed)

5] slightly longer and/or wider nose

6] slightly thinner lips (especially upper lip)

7] square/angled and or larger jaws

My eyebrows are slightly flatter, my eyelids are slightly closed...and my jaw is slightly larger...my male features are pretty minimal overall. I may appear more attractive to girls, but I may not advertise protection or resource gathering in a psychological sense, which according to some reasearchers suggests factors a lot into mate selection. So I'd have to make it up with good clothes, cars and so on, overt symbols of success and vigor. And I'm working on that...and my budget can't support leisure idtems and two wardrobes.

Anyways

Biologically it makes GMs look more threatening and protective. But these qualities generally vary, and only movie stars who may or may not have had facial cosmetic surgery tend to have all these traits in optimal proportions (too much and the guy looks like a neanderthal or thug)

My biggest issue is the shoulders...my shoulders are quite broad, but if I slim my waist or widen my hips (they sell prostheses that do this at Macys in the lingerie department) it tends to offset this. Not all male features are directly correctable, but many of those can be offset.

And also keep in mind that not all women are supermodels, there's usually some wiggle room as long as you act like a woman.
 
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I'll see if i cant get you a full body shot, it just might be diffucult because we don't have any body mirrors in my house, and using a cameraphone and all, it is kinda impossible to hold it back and snap the picture.
 
Eh, even just most of the upper body works too. And it's amazing what you can do with a mirror, some distance, and a cameraphone. Apparently that's how 90% of myspace photos are taken. Though that makes me feel worse about the combination, personally. :x
 
Looks good to me. I'd drop off a shot, but I don't feel like it's of much use at the moment. Not to mention I suck at taking pictures. :rolleyes:
 
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