What are some examples of masculine and feminine qualities?

[lovecraft68]

These days the most common male trait is to talk about what a man you are, then be nothing but a whiny insecure victim who blames women for everything.

What passes for 'men' among Gen Z is gong to heavily favor lesbians who are going to welcome all the girls who are going to come there way.

 

[AwkwardMD]

Maybe it's a generational thing, but I don't think I align with a lot of these tropes.

Take a shot.

 

[PennyThompson]

Take a shot.

Oh nooo I don't know what that means

 

[AwkwardMD]

Oh nooo I don't know what that means

It's the pointless thread drinking game!

 

[PennyThompson]

It's the pointless thread drinking game!

I'm a lightweight, this is a very bad idea

 

[AwkwardMD]

I'm a lightweight, this is a very bad idea

That's the best part about this drinking game. There's only usually a thread or two like this every week, so nobody really gets drunk.

 

[Cagivagurl]

Most ridiculous thread.
What's different between men and women???
Nothing.
Each and every member of the human race is different to the other....
I have women friends who are hunters, mechanics, engineers, architects, doctors...
I have men friends from similar walks of life...
We are all different.
Stop trying to Pidgeon hole us....
Let us be whatever we wanna be,,,

I have women friends who race motorcycles....
Men friends who work as carers at an old folks home...

Cagivagurl

 

[NuclearFairy]

Most ridiculous thread.
What's different between men and women???
Nothing.
Each and every member of the human race is different to the other....
I have women friends who are hunters, mechanics, engineers, architects, doctors...
I have men friends from similar walks of life...
We are all different.
Stop trying to Pidgeon hole us....
Let us be whatever we wanna be,,,

I have women friends who race motorcycles....
Men friends who work as carers at an old folks home...

Cagivagurl

Okay, yes pigeonholing is bad. And we're all different individuals, without as much difference between the genders as most people believe. But! There are differences. I am more attracted to personalities than anything else. Even though I find the female form unattractive there have been a handful of women that I've found attractive as long as I didn't look below the neck. Every single one without fail has later come out as a trans man. There was no one trait I could've put my finger on and gone, "Ah ha you're a man!" But they were masculine, and that attracted me.

Men and women are different. I can't really tell you for the most part what makes someone masculine and what makes them feminine, I just know it when I see it. I have spent a lot of time just watching people, so I do know the difference in how they interact with each other. And yes, it's different.

For instance, a female mechanic will actually look me in the face when she's talking to me, and explain what the problem is and what I need to do to prevent the problem or fix it myself. Where a male mechanic will either look at my chest, or more likely at his computer screen or clipboard and give me the vaguest answers he can. Does that mean one gender is more or less competent at their job? No, it just means that they're different.

 

[Escierto]

You can make generalizations but then they are not very useful when applied to any specific individual. I used to complain to my wife (ex) about how all guys ever wanted to talk about was lawn care and car care, two topics that I cared nothing about.

Sports, I could handle because I played most sports and was somewhat interested. Nevertheless, I always found women's conversation much more interesting because it tended to focus on people and their behavior. Women's conversation can be boring too when it veers into beauty and fashion but on the whole, they are more interesting than men.

 

[Escierto]

Every single one without fail has later come out as a trans man. There was no one trait I could've put my finger on and gone, "Ah ha you're a man!" But they were masculine, and that attracted me.

How is it that you are encountering all these trans people? In 70 years of living in various parts of North America, I have never knowingly encountered anyone trans.

 

[AG31]

@ElectricBlue wrote: "It was not until later, when some other women used exactly the same expression, that I realised that it was an unusual thing, in a man."

But it's the essence of a particular kind of attractiveness in a man.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

The self-righteous thread-bashing is always fun to watch.

For the record, the O.P. posted some maybe simplified musings and questions but nothing that warrants this kind of reaction.

 

[AG31]

And then there's what Hubby calls "the male duh factor." I've found it an incredibly useful concept for smoothing over rough edges in our life together, but I couldn't figure out how to describe it. He says, "It's inattention to interpersonal nuances." It's not the inability to perceive them, just inattention. So if he doesn't get it three times in a row, and gets scolded each time, he's perfectly capable of getting it the fourth time.

 

[NuclearFairy]

How is it that you are encountering all these trans people? In 70 years of living in various parts of North America, I have never knowingly encountered anyone trans.

It's safer to come out as trans than it used to be. Or rather up until this year it was. Not as safe as it should be though, and they have to deal with the very high likelihood that their entire family will disown them. So a lot of trans individuals will only come out to those that they feel safe coming out to.

 

[Escierto]

It's safer to come out as trans than it used to be. Or rather up until this year it was. Not as safe as it should be though, and they have to deal with the very high likelihood that their entire family will disown them. So a lot of trans individuals will only come out to those that they feel safe coming out to.

You may have a point there. I am an old white guy who probably looks as though he is a devotee of the Orange Jesus. In fact, I am the exact opposite but you can't be too careful these days.

 

[AG31]

There was no one trait I could've put my finger on and gone, "Ah ha you're a man!" But they were masculine, and that attracted me.

Wanna pitch into this thread about male physicality?

 

[PennyThompson]

How is it that you are encountering all these trans people? In 70 years of living in various parts of North America, I have never knowingly encountered anyone trans.

No offense, but most cis people think they can accurately clock every trans person, and they're usually wrong. And those who get obsessed with clocking trans people often turn into paranoid "transvestigators" who start accusing random cis people of being trans when they aren't.

If you've "never knowingly encountered anyone trans," it's because they don't know you or trust you well enough to disclose to you.

 

[NuclearFairy]

You may have a point there. I am an old white guy who probably looks as though he is a devotee of the Orange Jesus. In fact, I am the exact opposite but you can't be too careful these days.

You can't be.

Also, trans men act like men, and trans women act like women. So unless they told you that they were born the other gender, you might never know.

Wanna pitch into this thread about male physicality?

I'd find a sentient chair attractive if it had a masculine personality, so I'm not sure I'd have much to contribute to that thread.

 

[Escierto]

No offense, but most cis people think they can accurately clock every trans person, and they're usually wrong. And those who get obsessed with clocking trans people often turn into paranoid "transvestigators" who start accusing random cis people of being trans when they aren't.

If you've "never knowingly encountered anyone trans," it's because they don't know you or trust you well enough to disclose to you.

Actually, I have an ongoing relationship with a trans woman who lives in the Philippines. We have been together over five years. Just a little fyi.

In North America I make no effort whatsoever to clock anyone. I do not believe I have any superpowers related to knowing whether someone is trans or not and to tell the truth, I don't really care. I just find it astonishing when people casually mention that they have been encountering trans people all the time.

 

[Escierto]

If you've "never knowingly encountered anyone trans," it's because they don't know you or trust you well enough to disclose to you.

Of course. In this country at this time, it is not a fact about myself that I would disclose to anyone if I were in their position.

 

[TheRedChamber]

A lot of dudes watched just to see Kate. The opening comparison doesn't gel with the popularity of her, them or the Royals in general.

It does not account for the cultural difference of being British.

Did they though? There's a strong streak of anti-royalist in a good cross sections of Brits. I didn't watch the wedding, didn't watch the funeral, didn't watch the coronation and am proud of that fact. I was once dragged to see the Queen visiting our local area...by an American friend.

For what its worth, I think our system is better than having a Presidential system (ooh, little bit of actual politics there, creeping into the gender politics...)

Kate has a nice enough bottom and if I am forced to watch the wedding, I'm sure I'm going to be distracted by it during the otherwise stupefying tedium. If I'm on my own, however, and in need of bottoms, I'm probably exploring other options (of which the Internet has several).

(Not sure if AwkwardMD's comment was saying the same or the complete opposite of this)

 

[AwkwardMD]

Did they though? There's a strong streak of anti-royalist in a good cross sections of Brits. I didn't watch the wedding, didn't watch the funeral, didn't watch the coronation and am proud of that fact. I was once dragged to see the Queen visiting our local area...by an American friend.

For what its worth, I think our system is better than having a Presidential system (ooh, little bit of actual politics there, creeping into the gender politics...)

Kate has a nice enough bottom and if I am forced to watch the wedding, I'm sure I'm going to be distracted by it during the otherwise stupefying tedium. If I'm on my own, however, and in need of bottoms, I'm probably exploring other options (of which the Internet has several).

(Not sure if AwkwardMD's comment was saying the same or the complete opposite of this)

I was mostly homing in on the last part of jaF0's statement, that there is a higher level of Royal interest across the board which would skew any kind of gendered assessment of Kate Middleton's wedding and the demographics that tuned in.

 

[AG31]

Each and every member of the human race is different to the other....

What about the following from the OP makes you think I disagree?

If an otherwise unremarkable man stayed home alone to watch a royal wedding, it would add interest to the story because he would be counter to type. Or it might serve to strengthen the picture of a certain sort of gay man. However it's used, I think it's undeniably "feminine" to stay home alone all day to watch a royal wedding.

 

[Cagivagurl]

What about the following from the OP makes you think I disagree?

Exactly my point about Pidgeon holing.
You think it unusual a man wouldn't be interested. Why could an average heterosexual man not be interested???
Why should it be the realm of women????
In my opinion. This is how we as society restrict peoples personal growth...
I have no interest in the royal family. I imagine for many they have their uses...
If they vanished tomorrow, I'd lose no sleep...
By suggesting it is abnormal for a straight masculine man to be interested in something. You put them in a box because that's how you see it...
The same thing applies when women choose careers historically associated with men...
It's a dangerous concept for the growth of the human race.
We should all be encouraged to express our interests.

Cagivagurl.

 

[TheLobster]

How is it that you are encountering all these trans people? In 70 years of living in various parts of North America, I have never knowingly encountered anyone trans.

Because it hasn't really been a thing until relatively recently (a bit over a decade, perhaps).

The wide cultural spread of the concept of transition had given many people who experience vague feelings of unease with their birth sex a way to pin those feelings on an easily graspable, very simplistic idea of "being assigned the wrong gender." Previously, they'd simply remain atypical representatives of their birth sex ("tomboys", etc.), but now, the culturally enforced way of regaining congruence between mind and body is to transition. So, many people end up pursuing it which is why you see those steadily growing numbers.