What if Ukraine wins?

[eric_erosfan]

Russia has been invaded many times, but it never stays conquered. Ukraine and Europe combined don't have enough soldiers to make much of an invasion attempt. China is not much of a threat either. It doesn't have the birthrate to maintain its own population.

Who wants to invade that shithole? Just let them rot in their own toxic wasteland.

 

[TheGxForum]

So...no?

Nope win or lose they still get nothing...

 

[TheGxForum]

Your brain works this way?

That being said - do you play star trek fleet command per chance?

I do join our Alliance

 

[Wonderer67]

Wait till Muscovy is given the double envelopment between Ukraine and Genghis KhanII.

 

[ll74]

I do join our Alliance

I'm in Howl

 

[TheGxForum]

I'm in Howl

You gotta be on same Server 700 then join there...

 

[Saint_Ann]

I play Risk. Ukraine is almost impossible to hold on to.

 

[eric_erosfan]

I play Risk. Ukraine is almost impossible to hold on to.

 

[dmallord]

The colonies prevailed because of poor supply line logistics on the part of the British. This is also what brought down the Native Americans after the government ordered the wholesale slaughter of their major food source.

Ukraine cannot support itself right now and is living off the largess/gifts of other nations. However, that will eventually run out. At that point Russia wins.

Same tired script, different thread. You keep recycling this "Ukraine can’t survive without handouts" narrative like it’s gospel, but it's just Kremlin karaoke—loud, off-key, and utterly disconnected from the facts.

Ukraine is standing firm with NATO behind it for a reason: Russia’s war is a strategic failure. Their elite forces are gutted, casualties are on the tipping point of ONE MILLION MEN, and sanctions are strangling the economy. Meanwhile, Ukraine's military is modernizing, adapting, and gaining real battlefield experience.

This isn’t a rerun of history—it’s a slow collapse playing out in real time. And if you’re going to keep pushing that same debunked analogy about Native Americans, at least update the talking points. The Cold War playbook is showing its age.

Putin thought he’d roll over Kyiv in three days. Two years later, he’s still stuck in a quagmire, bleeding men and money—while Ukraine holds the line. If that’s a ‘win,’ I’d hate to see what failure looks like.

 

[dmallord]

So you're wishing for yet another Israel/Iran style conflict as a way to stop the war? Let's not be completely stupid, shall we? A covert war is still a war.

And finally, and you really should trust me when I say this, the "disease" that will destroy Ukraine will be radiation sickness and it will extend beyond the border. There's already talk about Ukraine getting nukes, despite the nuclear non-proliferation agreements, and even sending precursor parts to Ukraine will only escalate things beyond the point of no return. Ukraine will NEVER have nukes because the moment they try there will be no Ukraine.

And once there's no Ukraine, there's no Poland or Germany. And once those are gone the way of the Geiger Counter, there will be no Europe either, thanks to NATO and stupid gits who "believe."

Germany hosts a major US nuclear contingent. We are obligated to defend them. Putin would be wrong to rattle his saber and use one, even one, against Ukraine or Germany. He's backed off that several times already. Like our TACO president, Putin is too chicken to make such a stupid move.

Your post is laughable.

 

[Lazaran]

Germany hosts a major US nuclear contingent. We are obligated to defend them. Putin would be wrong to rattle his saber and use one, even one, against Ukraine or Germany. He's backed off that several times already. Like our TACO president, Putin is too chicken to make such a stupid move.

Your post is laughable.

TACO & PACO

 

[dmallord]

Putin’s Real War Is at Home

Everyone keeps staring at the front lines in Ukraine, but the real fault lines are inside Russia. The regime’s not as solid as it pretends. Here’s what’s really happening under the hood:

• Infighting at the top – The Wagner mutiny blew the lid off internal fractures. Girkin, a hardcore nationalist, called for Putin’s removal and got jailed for it. The message was clear: loyalty is a minefield now, even for true believers.
• Low troop morale – Desertions, refusals, mutinies—none of that fits the Kremlin’s PR, but it’s happening. They're throwing poorly trained conscripts and prisoners into a meat grinder, and it shows. Chloe's posts show this ever-rising number, soon to cross a million casualties.
• Civilian unrest (underground) – Open protest gets you a prison sentence, so the resistance has adapted. Sabotage is on the rise—railways, draft offices, fuel depots. And Russian mothers are starting to push back publicly, which historically has never ended well for Russian wars.
• Navalny’s network lives on – Even after his murder, his team in exile is still exposing Kremlin corruption. His widow is stepping up, and people are paying attention.
• Brain drain – Russia’s young professionals—especially in tech—are leaving in droves. They're not coming back. The next generation wants no part of Putin’s Soviet revival fantasy.
• Oligarchs are rattled – Sanctions hit them where it hurts: yachts gone, money frozen, kids banned from the West. Some are starting to hedge, quietly backing away from the Kremlin while keeping one foot on the lifeboat.
• FSB paranoia – Putin’s security services are eating themselves alive. Leaks, defections, internal purges—it’s a mess. Loyalty only gets you so far when everyone’s looking over their shoulder.

Bottom line: Putin doesn’t need NATO to bring him down—he’s already rotting from the inside. This war is draining Russia politically, economically, and socially. He can’t quit, can’t win, and can’t trust the people around him. That’s not a strength. That’s slow collapse. One day, we will read a Russian headline about Putin leaning too far over a balcony to check on a Tesla below... and we know what happens to Russians leaning over balconies from numerous sources.

 

[dmallord]

Russia has been invaded many times, but it never stays conquered. Ukraine and Europe combined don't have enough soldiers to make much of an invasion attempt. China is not much of a threat either. It doesn't have the birthrate to maintain its own population.

Birth rate is not relevant to invasion factors. China has an estimated standing army of nearly three million: regular and reserve troops.

It doesn't have to be conquered and occupied. Just fragmented and let the natural divisions within its borders form their territories, the way it has always been. Russia has been repeatedly divided and grown weaker.

Marshall half of that against Russia at this point of its faltering war with Ukrainians, and Russia wouldn't have a chance.

 

[dmallord]

China can't invade Russia. It needs Russian imports of fuel and fertilizer. If China tries to invade, Russia sabotages its own infrastructure, and China starves.

Mutual self-destruction is your outcome. Russia is outsourcing weapons and ammunition via China and other countries. That's indicative of a weak economy. China can easily prod the second flank while Ukraine is taking the main blunt of Putin's war to restore the Russian Empire. His current status is unsustainable and a second war or even limited one would force a major political shift within Russia. Putin would face removal from office and his replacement would sue for peace. That's the more likely outcome.

That's indicative of a border contentious issue that is easily exploited. Russia isn't the only source of fuel and fertilizer. It may be cheaper, but it isn't the only source. Only China could determine that it could bear that cost.

As to starving, that's subjective.

Has there ever been a country that committed political or economic suicide rather than sue for peace or just accept subjugation?

 

[SebastianHolt]

The first thing that would happen, is Russiaguide going on suicide watch and requiring a wellness check.

That ^ would be followed up with a Department of Homeland Security stakeout to monitor Russiaguide for a potential terror attack on Ukrainians living in America.





Beyond that ^ ???:

Ukraine would obviously respect the sovereignty of Russia and its internationally recognized borders - unlike the Russians” and the MAGAt republicans’ disrespect for Ukraine’s sovereignty and internationally recognized borders.





We. Told. Them. So.

Wow, how sad. One is so demented and damaged that she has to put "MAGA" into everything she posts. Can you grow up and post your distorted political views in the political forum. Shame on you

 

[SebastianHolt]

Do they get Russia?

There is no way Ukraine can win. The question is, once Putin is finished playing his game, what will Ukraine look like?