What pissed you off today?

[Sir_Winston54]

Thanks for the understanding words. I'm not sure how well I'll be able to function without the noise of the artillery and gunnery ranges, not to mention the helicopters and tanks. Then there's the understanding, love, and support for the Army. While the system is frustrating and far from perfect, it's what I grew up with and now work with. Starting life all over again as a regular person is very, very scary.

As much as I rag on these soldiers, I'm going to miss them all.

Wellll... you could move to Lawton, OK, and be right next door to Ft. Sill, the 4th Army's Field Artillery center. I have good memories of hunting prairie dogs on the artillery range on days they weren't firing 155 howitzers down there. And you'd still have weather similar to that of College Station, though perhaps a little hotter.

 

[Keroin]

Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...



...aaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE

W/what W/was T/that A/all A/about ?

(Don't post anything like that again. My brain hurts.)

 

[Homburg]

Thanks for the understanding words. I'm not sure how well I'll be able to function without the noise of the artillary and gunnery ranges, not to mention the helicopters and tanks. Then there's the understanding, love, and support for the Army. While the system is frustrating and far from perfect, it's what I grew up with and now work with. Starting life all over again as a regular person is very, very scary.

As much as I rag on these soldiers, I'm going to miss them all.

It was weird for me to give up the ID card. It is *still* weird to be talking to a soldier or sailor what is trying to get me to his car and to have to say "Well, your base is generally not all that excited about letting on civilians with cameras."

Short of about one year when I was around 7 years old, I lived on one army base or another until just before I hit 18. They still feel as close to hometown as I'll ever feel on the few occasions that I do go on-base.

So, yeah, I know how you feel.

*hugs*

 

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[MisterSir]

It's the inconsistency that gets me, S/she (if you start doing that as well i will cut you) doesn't do the same thing to "Me" in the first frakking line, godsdammit I hate it.

 

[ecstaticsub]

Thanks for the understanding words. I'm not sure how well I'll be able to function without the noise of the artillary and gunnery ranges, not to mention the helicopters and tanks. Then there's the understanding, love, and support for the Army. While the system is frustrating and far from perfect, it's what I grew up with and now work with. Starting life all over again as a regular person is very, very scary.

As much as I rag on these soldiers, I'm going to miss them all.

My husband just recently retired from the military. I miss the tight military family and the feeling of belonging some place. But I am getting used to civilian life, even starting to enjoy it.

 

[CurlyKat]

It was weird for me to give up the ID card. It is *still* weird to be talking to a soldier or sailor what is trying to get me to his car and to have to say "Well, your base is generally not all that excited about letting on civilians with cameras."

Short of about one year when I was around 7 years old, I lived on one army base or another until just before I hit 18. They still feel as close to hometown as I'll ever feel on the few occasions that I do go on-base.

So, yeah, I know how you feel.

*hugs*

Hehe, yeah, the military post 9/11 is really pretty adamant about those cameras. It makes sense, though, until they go overboard. My previous job here was with the region's Army paper, so obviously I was one of the ones allowed to take pictures on post. I had to have a letter signed by the garrison commander AND the provost marshal giving permission, with the original stamps, and all of my ID information in it in case anyone gave me an issue.

Well, one MP took it upon himself to say I was lying and could have forged that letter, after threatening to cuff me and forceably remove me from post instead of letting me show him my ID and the letter (don't worry, I wasn't taking sinister pictures, our post was just about to open a new PX so I was inside taking pictures of it to promote the opening). I told him before he does that, he should make a call to his boss and then the garrison commander, who I worked directly underneath, to make sure he wasn't making a mistake. He made the call, all vouched for me, he got chewed out for not accepting an official letter and an ID card, and ended up just throwing the two back at me and storming away.

So yeah, cameras and military installations are not so much friends. And thanks. While it may not be the real end of being around the military (you never know what jobs may be lurking just in the horizon), it could very well be. Going without post access for the first time in my entire life is going to be WEIRD.

My husband just recently retired from the military. I miss the tight military family and the feeling of belonging some place. But I am getting used to civilian life, even starting to enjoy it.

Yay! I actually thought about you while posting earlier, since I'd remembered hearing about that. Hopefully as you get settled in, that feeling of belonging and closeness will start to build around your community. It won't be the same as the automatic bond on a new installation, but hopefully that feeling does return for you.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

.... the automatic bond on a new installation ....

Yeah. That's something I had to get used to not having any more after I got out of the Navy (and the previous 18 years of military dependency): going to a new duty station (especially as a dependent). Someone would say, "Where have you been?" "Ft. Sheridan, Ft. Sill, Ft. Sam, etc." "Oh, did you know xyz?" "Yeah, but they got transferred to Okinawa (or wherever) about a year ago." "Oh, he was my best friend when we were both at Ft. Blahblah." Especially with my dad being in field artillery, which is a relatively closed group, there was *always* someone who knew someone you knew, even if there was no one who didn't know you from a previous assignment (which most of the time there was), so there was an (as you said) automatic bond or connection. You don't get that in civilian life, especially as a kid. (Adults sometimes do, if they're in equivalently restricted occupations/professions.) That was probably the most difficult point of transition from military brat/serviceman to civilian.

OTOH, it can be nice to meet new people who have *no connection* to your previous life, too. New stories, new histories, new points of view; not the same old stories about the same old people doing the same old things, lol!

 

[minx1]

''honey'' has been spoilt thanks to that post

 

[OldGuy1026]

Oh just read this rant!

August 2009 Rant

Well life has hit a new low; I’m doing janitorial work at a public event centre. Major job, keep the bathrooms supplied with toilet paper, paper towels, mop up and keep them clean. I never realized just how disgusting people can be. It harks back to my days as an Army Cadet with the Royal Canadian Army Cadets.

We were there for two days when the Sergeant Major marched us all into the bathroom and gave us a little speech I still remember today.

You bunch of slack and idle individuals! Didn’t your Mommy and Daddy teach you how to go to the toilet! You will work on your aim, and you will clean up after yourselves. And when you finish you will flush the toilet. You will flush in a proper military manor.

Flushing a toilet is like all things military you will move, ONE, two three ONE! By the numbers.

ONE, hold the flusher lever down. You will then hold the plunger down for a count of two, three. One release the lever. Got that, FLUSH, two three, release!

You will then wash your hands with soap and water to remove microscopic fecal matter off your hands and remove the spread of contaminants. You will wipe them dry with a disposable paper towel and put the used towel in the trash barrel.

Any failure to do this and hell and damnation will follow you through the rest of your miserable diseased lives!

Okay he was a little heavy handed, yelling and threatening. Worst he can do is send us home, but we listened. Public washrooms are just disgusting. I’d break up with a person who didn’t have a clean bathroom. So when they talk about a H1N1 virus well that is the reason.

So remember this life lesson, teach your kids well, and if you have to memorize the speech. It just may save a few lives.

Also, I’m changing jobs fast!

 

[Homburg]

Hehe, yeah, the military post 9/11 is really pretty adamant about those cameras. It makes sense, though, until they go overboard. My previous job here was with the region's Army paper, so obviously I was one of the ones allowed to take pictures on post. I had to have a letter signed by the garrison commander AND the provost marshal giving permission, with the original stamps, and all of my ID information in it in case anyone gave me an issue.

Well, one MP took it upon himself to say I was lying and could have forged that letter, after threatening to cuff me and forceably remove me from post instead of letting me show him my ID and the letter (don't worry, I wasn't taking sinister pictures, our post was just about to open a new PX so I was inside taking pictures of it to promote the opening). I told him before he does that, he should make a call to his boss and then the garrison commander, who I worked directly underneath, to make sure he wasn't making a mistake. He made the call, all vouched for me, he got chewed out for not accepting an official letter and an ID card, and ended up just throwing the two back at me and storming away.

This is why some people do not deserve power.

So yeah, cameras and military installations are not so much friends. And thanks. While it may not be the real end of being around the military (you never know what jobs may be lurking just in the horizon), it could very well be. Going without post access for the first time in my entire life is going to be WEIRD.

In my case, it happens on occasion. One of my clients is a leasing company that works with the Navy and the GSA, so I inspect vehicles on military installations here and there. Usually it's no big deal, but when I have to go on the naval bases it gets more interesting. Last year I was on the local base what supports SEAL team activities, and had to look at some of their equipment. Yeah, there were questions, and I had an escort the whole time, and we had an in-depth discussion about camera angles and what the photos could show. Whee.

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Yeah. That's something I had to get used to not having any more after I got out of the Navy (and the previous 18 years of military dependency): going to a new duty station (especially as a dependent). Someone would say, "Where have you been?" "Ft. Sheridan, Ft. Sill, Ft. Sam, etc." "Oh, did you know xyz?" "Yeah, but they got transferred to Okinawa (or wherever) about a year ago." "Oh, he was my best friend when we were both at Ft. Blahblah." Especially with my dad being in field artillery, which is a relatively closed group, there was *always* someone who knew someone you knew, even if there was no one who didn't know you from a previous assignment (which most of the time there was), so there was an (as you said) automatic bond or connection. You don't get that in civilian life, especially as a kid. (Adults sometimes do, if they're in equivalently restricted occupations/professions.) That was probably the most difficult point of transition from military brat/serviceman to civilian.

Sheesh, get out of my toybox, man. That sounds so much like my childhood that it ain't funny. There was always some kid that I knew at some point. Though it was rarely the ones that I hoped to see again.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

Sheesh, get out of my toybox, man. That sounds so much like my childhood that it ain't funny. There was always some kid that I knew at some point. Though it was rarely the ones that I hoped to see again.

Dood, it was *my* toybox twenty years before you got out of diapers (early 1950s - 1969).

 

[CurlyKat]

Dood, it was *my* toybox twenty years before you got out of diapers (early 1950s - 1969).

So since that's MY toybox most recently, does that mean I'm like your granddaughter or something????

Just to mess with everyone, you know. Things were getting much to serious around here.

But seriously, that did happen the other day. I was on a work trip to another post in Germany and ran into someone I'd known way back when. We both just kind of stood there trying to remember WHICH installation we had met on. I love those moments.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

So since that's MY toybox most recently, does that mean I'm like your granddaughter or something????

Ummm... no. Cuz then my lust for spanking, paddling, flogging, caning, etc., your tushie would be multi-generational incestuous or something, and I don't think that's good.

 

[CurlyKat]

Ummm... no. Cuz then my lust for spanking, paddling, flogging, caning, etc., your tushie would be multi-generational incestuous or something, and I don't think that's good.

Or would that just make it more kinky?

 

[Sir_Winston54]

Or would that just make it more kinky?

I think they have laws about that kinda stuff here in the States.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

Speaking of laws... this one has been proposed by Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV):

Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

Internet companies and civil liberties groups were alarmed this spring when a U.S. Senate bill proposed handing the White House the power to disconnect private-sector computers from the Internet.

They're not much happier about a revised version that aides to Sen. Jay Rockefeller, a West Virginia Democrat, have spent months drafting behind closed doors. CNET News has obtained a copy of the 55-page draft of S.773 (excerpt), which still appears to permit the president to seize temporary control of private-sector networks during a so-called cybersecurity emergency.

The new version would allow the president to "declare a cybersecurity emergency" relating to "non-governmental" computer networks and do what's necessary to respond to the threat. Other sections of the proposal include a federal certification program for "cybersecurity professionals," and a requirement that certain computer systems and networks in the private sector be managed by people who have been awarded that license.​

Much, much more at the source article from CNet, linked through the headline above.

 

[minx1]

Seriously, c'mon. Can today suck this much already? Its not even 10.30am.

FFS. I am so f**king fedup.

 

[kiba]

not a thing...

 

[OldGuy1026]

knock nock! And I here?

 

[Bran_Hopewell]

The little bastards talking during the movie.

 

[CurlyKat]

Speaking of laws... this one has been proposed by Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV):

Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

Internet companies and civil liberties groups were alarmed this spring when a U.S. Senate bill proposed handing the White House the power to disconnect private-sector computers from the Internet.

They're not much happier about a revised version that aides to Sen. Jay Rockefeller, a West Virginia Democrat, have spent months drafting behind closed doors. CNET News has obtained a copy of the 55-page draft of S.773 (excerpt), which still appears to permit the president to seize temporary control of private-sector networks during a so-called cybersecurity emergency.

The new version would allow the president to "declare a cybersecurity emergency" relating to "non-governmental" computer networks and do what's necessary to respond to the threat. Other sections of the proposal include a federal certification program for "cybersecurity professionals," and a requirement that certain computer systems and networks in the private sector be managed by people who have been awarded that license.​

Much, much more at the source article from CNet, linked through the headline above.

Ummmmm, WHAT???? No. Just no. I can undersand taking control of Intranets, and obviously all of the Internet traffic on or related to military installations and operations is already under control, but the mass Internet? No. This is just little to 1984.

 

[OldGuy1026]

The little bastards talking during the movie.

Amen to that brother, haven't gone to a movie theatre since the last Star Wars movie. Too bad the theatre ushers are not equipped with gags.

 

[OldGuy1026]

Ummmmm, WHAT???? No. Just no. I can undersand taking control of Intranets, and obviously all of the Internet traffic on or related to military installations and operations is already under control, but the mass Internet? No. This is just little to 1984.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10320096-38.html?needawtftag

Okay now I'm pissed off. If something like 911 happens again, and I'm sorry to say it will, then the shit hits the fan. I'm a Canadian, first knee-jerk reaction is to blam it on Canada, AGAIN, and our internet goes almost to crap.

I mean Canadian communication companies have tried to open branches into the US but setting up networks that have open monitor systems so that up to six Secret Security units, FBI, CIA, Homeland Security, NCIS, and a lot more "police" units can monitors calls. It goes so far against the grain that we pull out. But yes this makes me angery.

And thanks for pointing it out.

 

[JMohegan]

Speaking of laws... this one has been proposed by Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV):

Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

Internet companies and civil liberties groups were alarmed this spring when a U.S. Senate bill proposed handing the White House the power to disconnect private-sector computers from the Internet.

They're not much happier about a revised version that aides to Sen. Jay Rockefeller, a West Virginia Democrat, have spent months drafting behind closed doors. CNET News has obtained a copy of the 55-page draft of S.773 (excerpt), which still appears to permit the president to seize temporary control of private-sector networks during a so-called cybersecurity emergency.

The new version would allow the president to "declare a cybersecurity emergency" relating to "non-governmental" computer networks and do what's necessary to respond to the threat. Other sections of the proposal include a federal certification program for "cybersecurity professionals," and a requirement that certain computer systems and networks in the private sector be managed by people who have been awarded that license.​

Much, much more at the source article from CNet, linked through the headline above.

Ummmmm, WHAT???? No. Just no. I can undersand taking control of Intranets, and obviously all of the Internet traffic on or related to military installations and operations is already under control, but the mass Internet? No. This is just little to 1984.

The analogy being made is to Bush ordering all aircraft grounded on 9/11. Did that piss you guys off?

A more balanced discussion of the Rockefeller-Snowe Cybersecurity bill may be found here.