What should we do about AI?

[Rightguide]

My degree is in finance so I tend to see all of those as related. Your employer shows you how they value you through your salary, which is also what gives you status.

AI will cause disruptions that will impact some sectors and skill sets far more than others. Some people will find better jobs that pay more, and some will find worse jobs that pay less.

And for full disclosure, I never have had and never will need to have any job other than being a mother and housewife.

In the 20th century, we saw similar dynamics with automation in agriculture; now, a tiny fraction of the population feeds the entire country, while former farm labor shifted into manufacturing, services, and eventually information-based industries. The computer revolution repeated the pattern again; clerical, typing, and certain administrative roles shrank, while entirely new sectors in software, finance, and digital services expanded far beyond what had previously existed.

Your point about AI fits that historical pattern. It is likely to reshape sectors unevenly, displacing some roles while creating others that may not yet be fully visible. Some individuals will move into higher-paying work, others into lower-paying work, and the adjustment will not be evenly distributed.

And on your personal note, it’s worth saying plainly, caring for a household and raising children is real labor that sits outside market wages but is essential to the functioning of any society. It doesn’t show up in salary statistics, but historically, it has been the backbone that makes every other form of economic activity possible; for that, it deserves recognition and appreciation.

 

[Annabelle1990]

Proof?

Whatever you say, Zuck / Musk / Ayn. Have fun comparing charisma points at your online WoW party.

It's Anna, pronounced ahh-nah. And I get all the charisma points I need from my husband and our boyfriend, while you are stuck playing with your hands.

 

[Chernosoth]

Short answer: grab a chair and be ready when the music stops.
Long answer: practice or start learning how to do something that people will always need, that only humans can do. Get out of or reduce debt. Cut unnecessary expenses. Sell investments. Scrape the gold off your gold plated ego.

Many people who see probability of losing their jobs are sabotaging AI, such as entering false information into an AI's database.

 

[MajorRewrite]

There is the subtle irony that the “universal” policy you propose is a remedy for a very uneven phenomenon. Automation does not displace “humanity” in general; it displaces specific sectors, regions, and skill sets. Your solution levels the wrong gradient. In addition, it treats income as if it were the only social function of work. Even Socialists acknowledge that employment carries structure, identity, and status, not merely paychecks.

Your boy Elon Musk supports a universal high income system:

"Universal HIGH INCOME via checks issued by the Federal government is the best way to deal with unemployment caused by AI," Musk wrote in a recent post on X.

Are you going to bluster about Elon “leveling the wrong gradient”?

 

[Annabelle1990]

Short answer: grab a chair and be ready when the music stops.
Long answer: practice or start learning how to do something that people will always need, that only humans can do. Get out of or reduce debt. Cut unnecessary expenses. Sell investments. Scrape the gold off your gold plated ego.

Many people who see probability of losing their jobs are sabotaging AI, such as entering false information into an AI's database.

Good advice. Even without ai that is good advice.

 

[Annabelle1990]

In the 20th century, we saw similar dynamics with automation in agriculture; now, a tiny fraction of the population feeds the entire country, while former farm labor shifted into manufacturing, services, and eventually information-based industries. The computer revolution repeated the pattern again; clerical, typing, and certain administrative roles shrank, while entirely new sectors in software, finance, and digital services expanded far beyond what had previously existed.

Your point about AI fits that historical pattern. It is likely to reshape sectors unevenly, displacing some roles while creating others that may not yet be fully visible. Some individuals will move into higher-paying work, others into lower-paying work, and the adjustment will not be evenly distributed.

And on your personal note, it’s worth saying plainly, caring for a household and raising children is real labor that sits outside market wages but is essential to the functioning of any society. It doesn’t show up in salary statistics, but historically, it has been the backbone that makes every other form of economic activity possible; for that, it deserves recognition and appreciation.

The churn you describe is what makes us wealthier over time. It hurts at the micro at times but is radically positive at the macro.

 

[Annabelle1990]

Your boy Elon Musk supports a universal high income system:



Are you going to bluster about Elon “leveling the wrong gradient”?

Elon Musk is a savant, which makes him part genius and part idiot. You have to know when he is one and when he is the other.

 

[Annabelle1990]

Mad props to whoever came up with this performance alt / screenname. You've checked every box!

I'm sure I'm checking your boxes. I've noted that you have become less insulting.

 

[MajorRewrite]

AI isn’t just another technology innovation. It enables mass surveillance, autonomous weapons and cyber-crime on a scale that has been impossible before now.

That’s why AI needs strong regulations. Unfortunately, AI doesn’t care about national borders so rogue elements will be able to launch their cyber-crime attacks from anywhere (they already do, but their current capabilities are puny compared to what AI will be able to do).

Real conservatives and real libertarians would be adamantly against AI’s surveillance capabilities, at least.

 

[Rightguide]

I'm sure I'm checking your boxes. I've noted that you have become less insulting.

He's spotted your scalping knife.

 

[Annabelle1990]

AI isn’t just another technology innovation. It enables mass surveillance, autonomous weapons and cyber-crime on a scale that has been impossible before now.

That’s why AI needs strong regulations. Unfortunately, AI doesn’t care about national borders so rogue elements will be able to launch their cyber-crime attacks from anywhere (they already do, but their current capabilities are puny compared to what AI will be able to do).

Real conservatives and real libertarians would be adamantly against AI’s surveillance capabilities, at least.

Those are legitimate fears.

 

[coati]

AI data centers are the biggest new contributor to greenhouse gas emissions and consumption of precious water. Currently most of its use is focused on surveillance, manipulation of markets and consumers, lowering labor costs for corporations by laying people off, and developing shitty entertainment as a high cost opiate for the masses.

What a fucking waste of resources that mainly benefits the oligarchs.

We the people should limit AI application to basic science and tell the oligeeks to fuck off with the rest of their self-serving vanity data centers. You know goddamned well the oligeeks are not going to give everyone a guaranteed income in their fantasy future world of AI. Did DOGE do any of that? Fuck no.

Grab the reins of power from the oligeeks.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Google and Amazon reported big profit gains this quarter … but most of the “profit” was paper gains from their investments in Anthropic. Dodgy. The AI bubble is still bubbly.

 

[SebastianHolt]

That is, how to deal with the threat of technological unemployment it poses?

I see no way but Universal Basic Income.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income

jobs till chance so sorry princess but you lazy democrats will still need to work

 

[MajorRewrite]

jobs till chance so sorry princess but you lazy democrats will still need to work

This forum is in English. Please translate from gobbledygook and repost.

 

[briancamdudetenger2018]

Posted 1/2/2026


Fast forward to today: A.I. is starting to bring in serious revenue.

That's not very bubbly.

yup and its making alot of cash which is crazy

 

[briancamdudetenger2018]

what should we do about ai

well watch or rewatch movies and or tv shows that has ai in them

because they are in a way guides to what to expect

 

[goldytheGoldfish]

https://wapo.st/3QOyEA1

On the offensive side, the federal government should encourage frontier AI developers to detect and prevent malicious uses of their technology. Currently, many of them use automated monitoring systems to detect harmful uses of their AI models. That is how Anthropic eventually detected the Chinese state-sponsored hacking campaign.

Federal policymakers should promote these systems and organize red-teaming efforts to patch gaps in their effectiveness. They could also consider establishing regulations to prevent bad actors from accessing frontier AI capabilities, such as requiring the adoption of “know-your-customer” protocols from the financial services industry.

Finally, the U.S. government should establish standardized processes for reporting incidents of malicious misuse of autonomous AI systems. To respond, cybersecurity professionals, policymakers and the public need to be aware of the prevalence and severity of AI-enabled hacking campaigns.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

what should we do about ai

well watch or rewatch movies and or tv shows that has ai in them

because they are in a way guides to what to expect

AI today doesn’t bear the slightest resemblance to how it’s been portrayed in movies or TV. The main problem with AI today is that too many people think those fictional super brains are right around the corner and are willing to shovel buckets of money into a yawning black hole of suck.

 

[briancamdudetenger2018]

AI today doesn’t bear the slightest resemblance to how it’s been portrayed in movies or TV. The main problem with AI today is that too many people think those fictional super brains are right around the corner and are willing to shovel buckets of money into a yawning black hole of suck.

oh ok

 

[PintlerMan]

Ya all better be ready to bow down to your machine overlords! Sure ain't gonna play games. Exterminate EXTERMINATE!!!!!! Go Daleks!!!!!!

 

[briancamdudetenger2018]

Ya all better be ready to bow down to your machine overlords! Sure ain't gonna play games. Exterminate EXTERMINATE!!!!!! Go Daleks!!!!!!

lol darleks and cybermen from doctor who universe

 

[SebastianHolt]

It's Anna, pronounced ahh-nah. And I get all the charisma points I need from my husband and our boyfriend, while you are stuck playing with your hands.

be careful as you're playing with the town idiot