What the fuck is wrong with Hillary Clinton?

[ksmybuttons]

Me too. He does understand tax and spend I suspect.

And thank goodness, too. It's a lot better than the don't tax and spend of the republicans!

I do think it's interesting that he has a Hillaryesque view of his life too, remembering things that never happened.

Such as?

 

[unregistered]

 

[happyparadox]

*Obama has as much trouble with numbers as he has with maps. Last March, on the anniversary of the Bloody Sunday march in Selma, Alabama, he claimed his parents united as a direct result of the civil rights movement:

“There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born.”

Obama was born in 1961. The Selma march took place in 1965. His spokesman, Bill Burton, later explained that Obama was “speaking metaphorically about the civil rights movement as a whole.”

***

*Last March, the Chicago Tribune reported this little-noticed nugget about a fake autobiographical detail in Obama’s “Dreams from My Father:”

“Then, there’s the copy of Life magazine that Obama presents as his racial awakening at age 9. In it, he wrote, was an article and two accompanying photographs of an African-American man physically and mentally scarred by his efforts to lighten his skin. In fact, the Life article and the photographs don’t exist, say the magazine’s own historians.”

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/21/barack-obama-gaffe-machine/

But by all means, ridicule the reporter without checking the veracity of the facts like UD did.

Regards the photos; It's possible that those photos exist in another publication and he simply remembers them as being in Life Magazine. Just sayin', it's possible.

And it's possible that Burton's response is true but if it is then Senator Obama needs a new speech writer because that sentence standing alone doesn't say metaphor about the civil rights movement in general.

All politicians do this and I can't for the life of me understand why. Ronald Reagan pulled stories whole cloth from movie scripts and told them as his own. And they were brought to public light. But he was still elected and I'm betting that Obama will also be elected. Apparently the voting public doesn't see this "story telling" as an important issue. If the candidate's basic tenets mesh with the voters then the candidate wins. I guess, who knows?

 

[ksmybuttons]

But by all means, ridicule the reporter without checking the veracity of the facts like UD did.

Gosh. Why do people insist on giving me emotions and actions for which I have done nothing?

I asked because I always think that the opposition can answer a question like the one I asked better than anyone who is pro Obama. My job would then be to come up with excuses on why there were errors. You know, one of the things that I like about Obama is that he is willing to say he is imperfect and apologize for his errors. He answers for them.

Nothing like having a grain of sand in one's shoe, is there?

 

[ksmybuttons]

Regards the photos; It's possible that those photos exist in another publication and he simply remembers them as being in Life Magazine. Just sayin', it's possible.

And it's possible that Burton's response is true but if it is then Senator Obama needs a new speech writer because that sentence standing alone doesn't say metaphor about the civil rights movement in general.

All politicians do this and I can't for the life of me understand why. Ronald Reagan pulled stories whole cloth from movie scripts and told them as his own. And they were brought to public light. But he was still elected and I'm betting that Obama will also be elected. Apparently the voting public doesn't see this "story telling" as an important issue. If the candidate's basic tenets mesh with the voters then the candidate wins. I guess, who knows?

If I was setting out to prove the picture thing, I'd probably start with Look Magazine. It was much like Life. Of course, I'm not out to prove what he has said that might be tainted. I'm more interested in where he is going than where he has been other than the fact that he's a bi-racial man with the experiences of a bi-racial man. Something I will never experience.

 

[happyparadox]

If I was setting out to prove the picture thing, I'd probably start with Look Magazine. It was much like Life. Of course, I'm not out to prove what he has said that might be tainted. I'm more interested in where he is going than where he has been other than the fact that he's a bi-racial man with the experiences of a bi-racial man. Something I will never experience.

You and I are in agreement.

 

[Jimi]

WV has gone to the reps for the past two presidential elections so there is some thought that it is not a competitive state for the dems anymore.

And why WAS that?

Too little attention paid to a hugely Dem electorate, by a bunch of elitist Urban Northeastern strategists, I would guess.

Just my humble furrin' opinion, however, eh?

Hey, Mini-lover! Good to see ya, Man.

 

[happyparadox]

And why WAS that?

Too little attention paid to a hugely Dem electorate, by a bunch of elitist Urban Northeastern strategists, I would guess.

Just my humble furrin' opinion, however, eh?

Hey, Mini-lover! Good to see ya, Man.

Not a bad guess. I wonder, would we get better elected officials if not for the handlers, strategists, pollsters, marketing whizzes etc. The whole lot of them seem like carny barkers a good deal of the time.

 

[Angeline]

I can't believe it's that simple. There's something else going on here. Something that smells like entitlement, but much, much ranker. Her whole campaign stinks like sanctification.

She and Bill both really pissed me off with their not-so-subtle racist manipulation of the primary process. And in the meantime she (and her minions) use every opportunity to suggest she's being treated differentlly because she's a woman. Ugh. Her actions are doing way more to set back the notion of a woman president. If she blows this election for the Dems, she and Bill will end up farther out of the insider circles than they ever dreamed. And I'm supposedly in her cohort.

My solution? Put Hillary on the Supreme Court where she can protect civil rights and equality as stridently as she wants. And make Bill Ambassador to Uzbekistan.

 

[Jimi]

Not a bad guess. I wonder, would we get better elected officials if not for the handlers, strategists, pollsters, marketing whizzes etc. The whole lot of them seem like carny barkers a good deal of the time.

Yes... the dead-eyed yet driven look is a TAD scary, isn't it?

We have them, too... we're just too moss-backed to "get" most of their hocum, eh?

 

[ksmybuttons]

And why WAS that?

Too little attention paid to a hugely Dem electorate, by a bunch of elitist Urban Northeastern strategists, I would guess.

Just my humble furrin' opinion, however, eh?

Hey, Mini-lover! Good to see ya, Man.

You don't think that it's because they are anti abortion and pro guns?
Hmmm. They have less than 2 million people. He stopped in the state 3 times.

Exit polls last week showed two out of every 10 voters in West Virginia said race was a factor in their decision. That's 20%. West Virginia is 94% white. (Charleston Daily News)

The mayor also said that Obama's stand on gun control and his association with Rev. Wright didn't help him. (Clinging to guns and religion perhaps?)

 

[happyparadox]

Yes... the dead-eyed yet driven look is a TAD scary, isn't it?

We have them, too... we're just too moss-backed to "get" most of their hocum, eh?

I feel way to much time is spent with news of the campaign. To much valuable time during an election period is spent on worrying who's playing the race card, who's a power hungry bitch, who's rich wife is running the campaign and on and on. Far to little time is given what direction these candidates are headed which may make the country better for all. The issues most important are shoved aside for the asinine.

The handlers and the marketing groups put the candidate in a great big empty box which is mostly air. Then put pleasing colors and appealing graphics on it, hang it on a rack for us to buy with little knowledge of what we're buying. The same way we buy crap we don't need at the supermarket.

One must work hard with determination to really know what, if any, solutions any candidate may have worked out.

 

[happyparadox]

You don't think that it's because they are anti abortion and pro guns?
Hmmm. They have less than 2 million people. He stopped in the state 3 times.

Exit polls last week showed two out of every 10 voters in West Virginia said race was a factor in their decision. That's 20%. West Virginia is 94% white. (Charleston Daily News)

The mayor also said that Obama's stand on gun control and his association with Rev. Wright didn't help him. (Clinging to guns and religion perhaps?)

You have worked hard with determination to know what you feel you need to know. Are you the norm? It may not feel like you've worked hard but you have. I'm guessing you have a natural need to know and are willing to make the effort as are many on this board but I don't think that is true of the preponderance of voters.

 

[ksmybuttons]

You have worked hard with determination to know what you feel you need to know. Are you the norm? It may not feel like you've worked hard but you have. I'm guessing you have a natural need to know and are willing to make the effort as are many on this board but I don't think that is true of the preponderance of voters.

I can't believe that at my level I can be considered a political junkie!

 

[happyparadox]

I can't believe that at my level I can be considered a political junkie!

Maybe a news junkie. My impression is that you are a person who likes to know what the hell is going on in your world.

 

[Jimi]

You don't think that it's because they are anti abortion and pro guns?
Hmmm. They have less than 2 million people. He stopped in the state 3 times.

Exit polls last week showed two out of every 10 voters in West Virginia said race was a factor in their decision. That's 20%. West Virginia is 94% white. (Charleston Daily News)

The mayor also said that Obama's stand on gun control and his association with Rev. Wright didn't help him. (Clinging to guns and religion perhaps?)

I think a PM to Bidin~Time may elucidate, Tweeks.

...and the guns, religion & hillbillies analogy just might be a bit hasty, in my furrin' opinion.

The race thing? I think it's a non-issue. If one understands HOW the State came into being, and the marginalization of Appalachia for like EVER... Obama just might have carried the State if he'd actually BEEN there, not just a "sneeze-in" from Pittsburgh, eh?

He's their "natural" candidate - if he has the stones to get free of his dumbass handlers.

 

[Jimi]

Excerpt from Charleston Daily Mail link, posted by ksmybuttons:

[Mayor]Jones is a Republican and a supporter of GOP presidential candidate John McCain.

But he said he was impressed with how the Clintons campaigned in West Virginia.

He said Obama barely spent time in the state.

"The Clintons campaigned here like they were running for sheriff," Jones said. "They hit every fire hall and middle school. The people in West Virginia like that kind of attention."

During the interview, Elder, who is black, said he agreed with Jones' assessment of the West Virginia election.

 

[Spider Rand]

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