What's on your Won't Do list?

[Netzach]

It's not an up or down vote like California. So you might be right. Both the house and senate would have to vote to ban it. I'd like to see national civil union rights. It tastes a little better without the M word to me. They get their rights and we don't redefine marriage.

You mean redefining the shrewd selection of two teenagers for parental financial and social advantage?

 

[JMohegan]

I disagree with just about everybody I know politically. Neither conservative nor American-liberal, neither Republican or Democrat.

If I marked my associations by political litmus tests, I'd be pretty damned lonely.

Mine don't have to align perfectly, but as I said I do need ethical compatibility.

It's impossible for me to imagine wanting to wake up in the morning with someone whose views I don't respect. Though somehow Carville and Matalin manage, so clearly it can be done.

 

[JMohegan]

When we say we like smaller government, we actually mean that.

*resisting the urge to point out that halving your contingent of Senators is taking this to extremes*

 

[Netzach]

*resisting the urge to point out that halving your contingent of Senators is taking this to extremes*

Hee hee. Who wants to bet me that he can hold this shit up till Christmas? If we have two senators, any two, chuck the penguin or whatever, I will post more tit pics.

 

[ZRT]

Mine don't have to align perfectly, but as I said I do need ethical compatibility.

It's impossible for me to imagine wanting to wake up in the morning with someone whose views I don't respect. Though somehow Carville and Matalin manage, so clearly it can be done.

Unless you're planning on fucking your way through the small towns of America.

...which actually sounds like a lot of fun, but that's neither here nor there.

But unless that's your plan, you can tolerate a much broader spectrum of people by just being acquainted with them and getting to know them beyond the caricature of 'redneck gun-toting hicks'.

As for Matalin and Carville, they're hired guns with no principles. Birds of a feather, or snakes of a scale in this case.

 

[JMohegan]

Hee hee. Who wants to bet me that he can hold this shit up till Christmas? If we have two senators, any two, chuck the penguin or whatever, I will post more tit pics.

*writes a check to the legal fund of the Democratic party of MN*

 

[intothewoods]

You mean redefining the shrewd selection of two teenagers for parental financial and social advantage?

For the life of me, I don't get the proprietary feeling people have about the word marriage, at least from a legal perspective.

I disagree with just about everybody I know politically. Neither conservative nor American-liberal, neither Republican or Democrat.

If I marked my associations by political litmus tests, I'd be pretty damned lonely.

I agree with JM. It would be one thing if I didn't care about politics or talk about politics, but I do. For a long time I just couldn't talk to anyone who voted for Bush the second time or didn't vote in that election. It was just too upsetting. And I mean that. Some time has passed now and I'm happy with the current President. It's easier to be a bit more magnaminous.

 

[intothewoods]

Hee hee. Who wants to bet me that he can hold this shit up till Christmas? If we have two senators, any two, chuck the penguin or whatever, I will post more tit pics.

More?

 

[Netzach]

For the life of me, I don't get the proprietary feeling people have about the word marriage, at least from a legal perspective.



I agree with JM. It would be one thing if I didn't care about politics or talk about politics, but I do. For a long time I just couldn't talk to anyone who voted for Bush the second time or didn't vote in that election. It was just too upsetting. And I mean that. Some time has passed now and I'm happy with the current President. It's easier to be a bit more magnaminous.

I have my cutoff points. There are certain issues we've got to be on the same page as, because otherwise I'd feel too dehumanized to have a serious relationship with someone. I can be friends with people on the other side of these issues, but I don't want to spend a lot of time on them.

I tend not to have a lot of patience with racially stupid stuff. I feel like, being raised by the people I was raised by at home and still have to go home to, I've done my time having to be slightly sympathetic to wacked out racist freaky people. If you hate black people and you live in Idaho, it's ignorance. If you hate black people and live in the Bronx, I'd say your life must really really be shitty every day.

M is very different from me politically in that he shares my general feelings about the state of the world but fucking hates politics. Talking about it, watching it. Colbert and Daily are OK, news tends to be stressful, he just hates that shit.

Which is in some ways, harder than dealing with someone right of me. Or left of me, which my ex was.

 

[JMohegan]

Unless you're planning on fucking your way through the small towns of America.

...which actually sounds like a lot of fun, but that's neither here nor there.

But unless that's your plan, you can tolerate a much broader spectrum of people by just being acquainted with them and getting to know them beyond the caricature of 'redneck gun-toting hicks'.

Thanks so very much for the tip.

I wore out a lot of shoe leather last year - urban, suburban, rural. "Redneck gun-toting hick" is not the way I would describe anyone I met, in any state.

 

[JMohegan]

More?

For god's sake, woman! Where have you been???

 

[ZRT]

Thanks so very much for the tip.

I wore out a lot of shoe leather last year - urban, suburban, rural. "Redneck gun-toting hick" is not the way I would describe anyone I met, in any state.

Perhaps not, but marking people off ideologically as unsound for association certainly delivers that vibe.

I agree with JM. It would be one thing if I didn't care about politics or talk about politics, but I do. For a long time I just couldn't talk to anyone who voted for Bush the second time or didn't vote in that election. It was just too upsetting. And I mean that. Some time has passed now and I'm happy with the current President. It's easier to be a bit more magnaminous.

And that's what's torn us apart. This country has tied itself in knots and divided off by allegiance to two camps of criminal scumbags who are by and large exploiting what people believe to be their best interests. You honestly think the Democrats are more ethically sound? I had an argument with a guy during the election-before-last, and he was operating under the automatic assumption that Kerry was all gung ho about no more Gitmo. I pointed out that up to that point in the campaign, the -only- reference to Gitmo that Kerry had made was a tangential reference that was more concerned with Abu Ghraib and the need for better training for military interrogators.

We've sold our national soul to con artists. Well, that happened a long time ago, but these days we're really letting them push our buttons.

 

[ZRT]

Allow me to register my vote for more Netzach tit shots at this time, by the way.

I think that's a platform that most of us can get behind.

...unless they're WD's manboobs, in which case, no.

 

[intothewoods]

For god's sake, woman! Where have you been???

Link, please?

Perhaps not, but marking people off ideologically as unsound for association certainly delivers that vibe.



And that's what's torn us apart. This country has tied itself in knots and divided off by allegiance to two camps of criminal scumbags who are by and large exploiting what people believe to be their best interests. You honestly think the Democrats are more ethically sound? I had an argument with a guy during the election-before-last, and he was operating under the automatic assumption that Kerry was all gung ho about no more Gitmo. I pointed out that up to that point in the campaign, the -only- reference to Gitmo that Kerry had made was a tangential reference that was more concerned with Abu Ghraib and the need for better training for military interrogators.

We've sold our national soul to con artists. Well, that happened a long time ago, but these days we're really letting them push our buttons.

More ethically sound? Ever so slightly, yes. I don't think the Dems are angels. I just think the writing was on the wall long before Bush's approval ratings sank. Where was everybody?

I have my cutoff points. There are certain issues we've got to be on the same page as, because otherwise I'd feel too dehumanized to have a serious relationship with someone. I can be friends with people on the other side of these issues, but I don't want to spend a lot of time on them.

I tend not to have a lot of patience with racially stupid stuff. I feel like, being raised by the people I was raised by at home and still have to go home to, I've done my time having to be slightly sympathetic to wacked out racist freaky people. If you hate black people and you live in Idaho, it's ignorance. If you hate black people and live in the Bronx, I'd say your life must really really be shitty every day.

M is very different from me politically in that he shares my general feelings about the state of the world but fucking hates politics. Talking about it, watching it. Colbert and Daily are OK, news tends to be stressful, he just hates that shit.

Which is in some ways, harder than dealing with someone right of me. Or left of me, which my ex was.

I feel very similar to you. I'm not looking for an exact match in all my friends, and I'm very sympathetic to where someone is coming from.

 

[intothewoods]

Did I miss a Netz av or something? NOT FAIR!

 

[Netzach]

Did I miss a Netz av or something? NOT FAIR!

I threw up some naked boobies self bondo thing at some point when I was more dieted and svelte.

 

[Netzach]

Allow me to register my vote for more Netzach tit shots at this time, by the way.

I think that's a platform that most of us can get behind.

...unless they're WD's manboobs, in which case, no.

Unfortunately it's all in Norm Coleman's capable hands.

ETA: the question of tit pics. Not my tits.

 

[midwestyankee]

I threw up some naked boobies self bondo thing at some point when I was more dieted and svelte.

And I will attest that it was a delight to see.

 

[satindesire]

For the record: Super Taster right here.

If anyone wants to know anything about what it's like, PM me, I've got some funny stories.

 

[Netzach]

I have really poor sense of smell, so needless to say, I am the anti-taster.

 

[JMohegan]

Perhaps not, but marking people off ideologically as unsound for association certainly delivers that vibe.

When did I say I wouldn't associate with people?

All I'm saying is that, for example, a right wing woman, who thinks that Sarah Palin is the greatest thing to happen to American politics since Ronald Reagan, is not a woman with whom I could be compatible in a committed relationship.

There's no set of t&a on earth that could overcome the negative effect of that perspective on a guy like me.

Would I fuck her? Maybe. Would I want to wake up in the morning with her? Hell fucking no.

 

[JMohegan]

Link, please?

H's thread, as I remember.

 

[JMohegan]

And that's what's torn us apart. This country has tied itself in knots and divided off by allegiance to two camps of criminal scumbags who are by and large exploiting what people believe to be their best interests. You honestly think the Democrats are more ethically sound? I had an argument with a guy during the election-before-last, and he was operating under the automatic assumption that Kerry was all gung ho about no more Gitmo. I pointed out that up to that point in the campaign, the -only- reference to Gitmo that Kerry had made was a tangential reference that was more concerned with Abu Ghraib and the need for better training for military interrogators.

We've sold our national soul to con artists. Well, that happened a long time ago, but these days we're really letting them push our buttons.

I don't subscribe to this defeatist, there's no hope and they're all criminal scumbags, attitude.

Of course, politicians are power hungry and fundamentally keen on protecting themselves. That's a given. Nobody's a saint, clearly, and no one's a miracle worker.

But there are clear policy differences, especially now, and clear distinctions in terms of character. And if you think elections don't matter, at the very least please consider the implications of the retirement of David Souter.

 

[Keroin]

Yes, I'd love to see more pics.

Vermont is one of my favorite states. I was just there, visiting a friend in Burlington, about a month ago. Here's a photo of a favorite spot.

Yeah, anywhere with a Ben Jerry’s rates pretty high for me. LOL. Seriously, if that’s one of your favorite spots, you’d dig the Kootenays.

Dragging this thread back to its roots for a moment…

When I was shopping at the big Save-On Foods in Nelson one day, I ventured into the vitamin section for reasons I can’t recall. There I discovered they were selling shark cartilage capsules, (which do absolutely zip, BTW). Well, I asked to speak to the store manager but he was absent and I was directed to a stack of comment cards.

Now, I figured filling one of these cards out was next to useless but I couldn’t just leave. I wrote that I would no longer patronize their store if they continued to carry shark products and that I would urge all of my friends to do likewise. I briefly stated my reasons and referenced a few websites the manager could visit for info and stats. Dropping my card in the box, I expected to hear nothing.

Surprise. The manager emailed me and basically said, “No problem. Done. Shark products gone.”

I checked. He didn’t lie. I thanked him profusely. He promised to address the issue further up the chain and try to remove shark products from all their stores.

In another town, I’m not sure if one, lone voice could have achieved this. And that’s one of the many things I love about the Big N. The community is so environmentally active that I’m sure that manager knew if I’d so much as written a letter to the editor in the local paper, he’d be facing down an angry mob.

The town also has a bylaw prohibiting franchises. The one strip mall can have fast food joints and there is a Subway and an A&W that were there before the bylaw but that’s it. No billboards, either. Maximum height of any building, (except the hospital), can only be three stories. Etc, etc. And before you accuse this little berg of communism, remember that everyone living there likes it that way and there are plenty of other places to live where these rules don’t apply.

I know many small, rural towns can be conservative and red-necky. Nelson is an anomaly. A big, beautiful, tree-hugging anomaly. (There’s also a local group for GLBT, BDSM and other deviants – they have a parade every year.)

 

[intothewoods]

*gives up on paging through posts*