When America was great

[PersonalFavors]

N.B.: Most things of that kind you might say against people, even when true, are NOT their own fault.

Spoken like a true socialist.

 

[Wilson23]

Spoken like a true socialist.

Spoken as the truth.

 

[DanOkeffie]

No, they didn't. Manufacturers killed unions.

Unions killed manufacturing and whats left here those plants fully automated. There isna light bulb manufacturers in Lake Zurich Ill which used to employees 300 workers but.they fully automated and now only employees 4.or 5 people. Talk about SAVINGS

 

[Wilson23]

Unions killed manufacturing

Manufacturers killed unions, through a combination of aggressive union-busting, offshoring, and automation.

 

[SebastianHolt]

N.B.: Most things of that kind you might say against people, even when true, are NOT their own fault.

you need to move far away from America

 

[SebastianHolt]

Spoken like a true socialist.

yes he is

 

[Wilson23]

yes he is

More of a social democrat; I would go full socialist if only I could be convinced that a command economy can be as efficient as a market economy, but history offers no examples. Social democracy, OTOH, always works and has no downsides.

 

[SebastianHolt]

More of a social democrat; I would go full socialist if only I could be convinced that a command economy can be as efficient as a market economy, but history offers no examples. Social democracy, OTOH, always works and has no downsides.

you mean spoken like a true retard

 

[Wilson23]

you mean spoken like a true retard

Things in general go better in the social democracies than in the U.S. There is less poverty, more broadly shared prosperity, higher levels of general happiness. I can document all of this and have. So how can a social democrat be a retard?

 

[SebastianHolt]

Things in general go better in the social democracies than in the U.S. There is less poverty, more broadly shared prosperity, higher levels of general happiness. I can document all of this and have. So how can a social democrat be a retard?

stop pulling shit from your ass

move to North Korea as you will love it over there

 

[briancamdudetenger2018]

when was the us of a great lol

 

[Wilson23]

when was the us of a great lol

When it was possible for a manual worker to earn a middle-class income.

 

[dmallord]

To Trump's WWC, America was great from WWII to 1980, when it possible for a white man, at any rate, with only a high-school education to earn a middle-class income -- when the boundaries between working class and middle class blurred. Through manual labor one could earn enough to live in the 'burbs, own two cars, and send the kids to college. An American economy of broadly shared prosperity. "Guys like us we had it made! Those were the daaays!"

Trump implicitly promises to restore that historically unusual situation. But he can't.

I offer a comment on the first aged post here. He still can’t and he never had a sense of what you describe or a concept of a plan as to what it meant to be middle class working people.

He lied

 

[dmallord]

Unions killed manufacturing and whats left here those plants fully automated. There isna light bulb manufacturers in Lake Zurich Ill which used to employees 300 workers but.they fully automated and now only employees 4.or 5 people. Talk about SAVINGS

I was curious about this. The automation produces 71,000 lightbulbs an hour.
Also...
"Yes. The unemployment was viewed negatively by the community: it reduced local incomes, strained social services, decreased spending at nearby businesses, and harmed morale. Local officials and organizations responded with job-placement help and retraining programs to mitigate those effects.” Says Gemini.

The programs apparently helped many workers, but the jobs were lower-paying, and many took retirement as a result. Overall, the community wealth declined.

The company didn’t have a plan. Or a ‘concept of a plan’ on how to support the shift to automation. It made an attempt after prominent negative signals against GE put profit before human resources. Sounds like an alleged businessman running our country.

There is a lesson here. Perhaps some might expand on it.

 

[SebastianHolt]

I was curious about this. The automation produces 71,000 lightbulbs an hour.
Also...
"Yes. The unemployment was viewed negatively by the community: it reduced local incomes, strained social services, decreased spending at nearby businesses, and harmed morale. Local officials and organizations responded with job-placement help and retraining programs to mitigate those effects.” Says Gemini.

The programs apparently helped many workers, but the jobs were lower-paying, and many took retirement as a result. Overall, the community wealth declined.

The company didn’t have a plan. Or a ‘concept of a plan’ on how to support the shift to automation. It made an attempt after prominent negative signals against GE put profit before human resources. Sounds like an alleged businessman running our country.

There is a lesson here. Perhaps some might expand on it.

you automate the factory and terminate all the dead weight

 

[dmallord]

you automate the factory and terminate all the dead weight

A clear outcome to be sure. Though the term dead weight is a grim comparative.

It does seem to be the nature of humankind to tinker with productivity, to make things easier, with less effort, less labor, and, of course, monetize the outcome for investors. Don’t you think?

But there are so many other variables in that process. For instance, excess people after the initial labor-intensive efforts have yielded their fruits.

What about those people?

In your example the workers fell by the wayside. Not just the direct hires but their families as well. The community as a whole diminshed as the GE Company’s profits rose.

What about the moral factors, and the stewardship factors in looking out for mankind?

Is there not some forethought needed into planning for communities evolving via technology and includes what and how to sustain those who no longer fit the current productive skillset? Shouldn’t someone ‘turn the lightbulb on' to shed a light on that?

 

[Wilson23]

you automate the factory and terminate all the dead weight

What happens to the dead weight? Soylent green?

 

[LLCox]

Capitalism has brought us to the wonderfulness we have today. We have half the country supporting a retard for a leader and wants him to be a KING for life. Why would anyone even consider something different.

 

[Hel_Books]

What happens to the dead weight? Soylent green?

Think of all the headlines like "Markwayne Mullin grilled at Senate hearing."

Have the Secretary of Education bring the A1 sauce!

 

[BoredDirtyCommie]

Unions killed manufacturing and whats left here those plants fully automated. There isna light bulb manufacturers in Lake Zurich Ill which used to employees 300 workers but.they fully automated and now only employees 4.or 5 people. Talk about SAVINGS

It's weird when I see Republicans using the finest talking points of 2008.

Not only have talking points about organized labor killing sectors of the economy been throughly debunked, it's laughable now in the age of Luigi as the working class is reminding the wealthy that unions and good wages were the compromise that kept armed employees from showing up to the houses of the CEOs.

The unions weren't put there for the worker. They were there for the boss.

 

[Bray123]

bullshit, just means that Americans have become slackers.

Spoken like a slave-owner.

 

[SebastianHolt]

What happens to the dead weight? Soylent green?

yes

 

[SebastianHolt]

It's weird when I see Republicans using the finest talking points of 2008.

Not only have talking points about organized labor killing sectors of the economy been throughly debunked, it's laughable now in the age of Luigi as the working class is reminding the wealthy that unions and good wages were the compromise that kept armed employees from showing up to the houses of the CEOs.

The unions weren't put there for the worker. They were there for the boss.

why would the boss need protection from a union

 

[briancamdudetenger2018]

When it was possible for a manual worker to earn a middle-class income.

oh ok