Where do we GET these lunatics?

[BiscuitHammer]

Maybe not. But the song itself has been the soundtrack to some fun times.

Dude, no argument there. I love the song. That man is one of the great balladeers of our time.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Dude, no argument there. I love the song. That man is one of the great balladeers of our time.

I did know one woman who rode a motorcycle, and she probably was more careful about it than the average rider. He boyfriend, not so much. He hit a deer at sixty miles per hour, and woke up being airlifted in a medical helicopter. Amazingly, he had no serious injuries.

Meat Loaf? Sorry guys, I'm just not a fan.

 

[TadOverdon]

Dude, no argument there. I love the song. That man is one of the great balladeers of our time.

Jim Steinman was no slouch, either.

You know he wrote a never-produced "Batman" musical?

It was in the wake of the hit Burton film, keep that in mind...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhRTFIzOwpA

ETA: I got lost for twenty minutes in the Steinman wiki (anything but write, huh?) and discovered that "Bat Out Of Hell" supposedly grew out of Steinman's desire to write "the ultimate crash song."

Which brings the topic, if not full circle, at least halfway back to SimonDoom.

 

[gunhilltrain]

Jim Steinman was no slouch, either.

You know he wrote a never-produced "Batman" musical?

It was in the wake of the hit Burton film, keep that in mind...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhRTFIzOwpA

ETA: I got lost for twenty minutes in the Steinman wiki (anything but write, huh?) and discovered that "Bat Out Of Hell" supposedly grew out of Steinman's desire to write "the ultimate crash song."

Which brings the topic, if not full circle, at least halfway back to SimonDoom.

The only problem is that the "ultimate crash" sometimes results in the rider becoming a paraplegic. I've never heard a ballad about that.

 

[TadOverdon]

The only problem is that the "ultimate crash" sometimes results in the rider becoming a paraplegic. I've never heard a ballad about that.

Well, it has the "Don't try this at home" quality of much of the fiction on literotica, don't it?

 

[BiscuitHammer]

Well, it has the "Don't try this at home" quality of much of the fiction on literotica, don't it?

That's probably half of my stories on here...

 

[TadOverdon]

TBH, the "ultimate crash" generally results in the rider being street pizza. That's what makes it "ultimate."

 

[MajorRewrite]

I thought this thread was going to be about the BTB loons over in Loving Wives.

 

[SimonDoom]

Well, it has the "Don't try this at home" quality of much of the fiction on literotica, don't it?

My stories are not "how tos." They're "Welcome to my crazy kinky space for a little distraction for a little while before you go back to the real world."

 

[gunhilltrain]

I thought this thread was going to be about the BTB loons over in Loving Wives.

It's about more than that. It started with a private message BiscuitHammer got requesting a story about cat-fighting pregnant ladies. I think we're coming to the conclusion that as long as a story meets the rules set by the site, we should have a live and let live attitude about other people's fetishes.

However, in this case, it seems the message sender may have wanted both women to have miscarriages, and that surely would not be accepted here.

 

[XerXesXu]

It's about more than that. It started with a private message BiscuitHammer got requesting a story about cat-fighting pregnant ladies. I think we're coming to the conclusion that as long as a story meets the rules set by the site, we should have a live and let live attitude about other people's fetishes.

However, in this case, it seems the message sender may have wanted both women to have miscarriages, and that surely would not be accepted here.

I suppose that depends on whether Laurel is pro-life or pro-choice. It's either 'snuff' or it's not.

Where do the lunatics come from? J G Ballard wrote Crash. He narrates in first person - as Ballard. If you want immersion, you'll get immersion. His fetish is mutilation and death. Far more disturbing than the film. If you frequently use Western Avenue or North and South Circulars, best not to read it.

The upside, you get a masterclass in how to write. That's why he was published, his redeeming merit was, he could write.

Several of his other works deal with death and mutilation, but not expressly with paraphilic eroticism.

He's most famous for 'The Empire of the Sun', his autobiographical account of his internment as a child by the Japanese, and the privations and cruelty he and other internees, and the local Chinese endured. That may be a clue to where his cheerful kink comes from.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Jim Steinman was no slouch, either.

You know he wrote a never-produced "Batman" musical?

It was in the wake of the hit Burton film, keep that in mind...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhRTFIzOwpA

Old goths may find Catwoman's song (28:23) very familiar. Steinman recycled a lot of it from "More", which he co-wrote with Andrew Eldritch for the Sisters of Mercy about ten years earlier.

 

[SimonDoom]

He's most famous for 'The Empire of the Sun', his autobiographical account of his internment as a child by the Japanese, and the privations and cruelty he and other internees, and the local Chinese endured. That may be a clue to where his cheerful kink comes from.

I did not know this. This is interesting to know.

Perhaps the fact that he spent a long time in a prisoner of war camp, while most of us did not, is something to think about before being too quick to judge where others' kinks and erotic oddities come from.

I've never read the book Crash and am curious enough that I've ordered it.

 

[ElectricBlue]

He's most famous for 'The Empire of the Sun', his autobiographical account of his internment as a child by the Japanese, and the privations and cruelty he and other internees, and the local Chinese endured. That may be a clue to where his cheerful kink comes from.

I'm not sure I'd say "most famous" for that.

If you grew up with Ballard as I did, he was first and foremost a sci-fi writer, with The Empire of the Sun being the odd one out. Mind you, I don't know the relative sales figures, and of course lots of people will know the Spielberg movie but not know anything about Ballard's broader work.

I've read Empire of the Sun, and the only memorable thing from it for me, is that he's one of the few people to see the flash from one of the atomic bombings and survive. Granted, it was several hundred miles away, but he was looking towards Japan at exactly the right time, and figured out afterwards what he'd seen.

Which explains his obsession with atom crazies in the Nevada desert.

 

[XerXesXu]

I did not know this. This is interesting to know.

Perhaps the fact that he spent a long time in a prisoner of war camp, while most of us did not, is something to think about before being too quick to judge where others' kinks and erotic oddities come from.

I've never read the book Crash and am curious enough that I've ordered it.

Into every life, a little rain must fall.

In the Empire of the Sun, at one point he's referred to as:

“ At last … that boy … running wild.”

He wrote another work “Running Wild.” The protagonist is a forensic psychiatrist trying to determine who carried out a massacre of parents and kidnapped their children. His solution – the children - running wild. An attempted analysis of ‘going postal’.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I've never read the book Crash and am curious enough that I've ordered it.

While you're at it, High Rise, Cocaine Nights, Super Cannes.

And saturate yourself in his The Complete Short Stories, two volumes - for some unknowable reason, I only have Volume Two. But it's the one to have, if you were only allowed one book.

 

[gunhilltrain]

I did not know this. This is interesting to know.

Perhaps the fact that he spent a long time in a prisoner of war camp, while most of us did not, is something to think about before being too quick to judge where others' kinks and erotic oddities come from.

I've never read the book Crash and am curious enough that I've ordered it.

Yes, Empire of the Sun was autobiographical but it was partially fictionalized. In 2008 he published a "true" autobiography called Miracles of Life - or as true as he could remember it. One of the biggest differences is that he was not separated from his family during his internment, as he was in the movie.

The book continues with his later move to England after the war - the first time he was ever there. But yeah, I'm sure his experiences in the war shaped his later writing. By the way, Empire of the Sun is far darker, especially with its ending, compared to the movie version that Steven Spielberg made of it.

P.S.: Him seeing the atomic bomb flash from Shanghai - perhaps that is just a rhetorical flourish. I have no idea if that was actually possible.

 

[BiscuitHammer]

I'd take it as a compliment. They didn't go to just any writing shmo to write a pregnant catfighting story. They went straight to the top.

Top shmo, izzat it? I'm the opposite of flattered.

He messaged me again. Wants 50k+ words, and he'll give me 20 bucks. Also volunteered a few details of the more visceral and bloody scenes he wants. My inbox feels so dirty now.

This guy's got more issues than Reader's Digest AND the Farmer's Almanac

I'm trying to think of a polite way of saying 'I'd rather have my eyeballs sucked out my ass'.

Apologies in advance if he starts sniffing around any of you after I let him down.

 

[Rustyoznail]

Top shmo, izzat it? I'm the opposite of flattered.

He messaged me again. Wants 50k+ words, and he'll give me 20 bucks. Also volunteered a few details of the more visceral and bloody scenes he wants. My inbox feels so dirty now.

This guy's got more issues than Reader's Digest AND the Farmer's Almanac

I'm trying to think of a polite way of saying 'I'd rather have my eyeballs sucked out my ass'.

Apologies in advance if he starts sniffing around any of you after I let him down.

Only $20? That’ll go just in eye wash.

 

[ElectricBlue]

He messaged me again. Wants 50k+ words, and he'll give me 20 bucks. Also volunteered a few details of the more visceral and bloody scenes he wants. My inbox feels so dirty now.

That's... bad. At least your in-box can block him, because that's just not right.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Top shmo, izzat it? I'm the opposite of flattered.

He messaged me again. Wants 50k+ words, and he'll give me 20 bucks. Also volunteered a few details of the more visceral and bloody scenes he wants. My inbox feels so dirty now.

Twenty-five cents per word: not terrible for commission work.

Twenty-five words per cent: lol.

 

[TadOverdon]

I'm trying to think of a polite way of saying 'I'd rather have my eyeballs sucked out my ass'.

Don't. He might offer you 30 bucks to write that one.

 

[oggbashan]

Latest Anon comment:

On my story Niqab Gagged:

I want to wear burqa by force and cuckold me Muslim couples break my virginity in wearing only burqa and niqaab... [email removed]

What does Anon think I am going to do?

 

[MelissaBaby]

I've read Empire of the Sun, and the only memorable thing from it for me, is that he's one of the few people to see the flash from one of the atomic bombings and survive.

I've got to question that. If he could see it hundreds of miles away in China, how many more people in Japan and Korea were much closer and almost certainly saw it? It had to have been hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I've got to question that. If he could see it hundreds of miles away in China, how many more people in Japan and Korea were much closer and almost certainly saw it? It had to have been hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people.

I should have said, he's one of the few who left a documented record, other than a shadow on the pavement.

Given that the double flash occurs over 100 ms (1/10 of a second), I'd still say not many would have seen it unless they'd chanced to be looking in the right direction. And of course, if they had seen it, no-one knew what it was except for the aircraft crew (and they were getting out of the way in fast dive and definitely looking the other way).