Which Lister is this????

In a nutshell...

A while ago a few people posted what I thought were thoughtless and nasty comments about a female pic. Some PMs flew. One accepted it and felt guilty. Another said she just felt like it so what and another thought it was 'a laugh' and I needed to get over myself.

All I was doing was looking out for the person who posted the picture. She wasn't much fussed, but it's not the point. None of them knew who it was, and they COULD have been hurt. None take part any more.

I added a rule asking people not to be nasty.

Then with this picture there were a couple of similar such comments. Now I happen to KNOW the person concerned quite literally could not give a fuck.... and the 2 who posted the comments probably knew that. I knew no malice was intended.

But a precedent had been set..... you must have some sort of fairness here. You can't take the piss out of teh picture if you know that person won't mind.. it opens it up for others.... and the 3 who I had a go at would (quite rightly) complain that I admonished them, and let this go. It's simply unfair.... not even taking into account it probably gave away who it was to anyone who cared to read.

One was someone I love and it caused a spat..... and I'm feeling very low right now. I have no idea why. People love me and are wonderful. I'm a lucky person. I just feel like life is awful..... but this spat hurt me, and her greatly.

The other was someone who is a good friend... and all I got was a reply basically having a go and to remove her from the thread. The sole reply was she knew who it was would not mind... but as I said before that's simply not the point.

I'm tired of always looking out for people, defending them, and trying to do the right thing constantly.... only to constantly have hassle and backbiting at me. It just depresses me further.

It's a LOT of time and effort doing this (and the other stuff), but I do this simply for fun and to give others a bit of fun. I do it to escape my boring, mundane existance and the daily pressures of life. To relax.

It hasn't been that case lately. I'm sorry.

No idea what I plan to do..... but at the moment I have no idea. Sorry to everyone.

I hope this clears up people's questions adequately.
 
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If you need a bod to talk to or a sounding board mate .... give me a buzz
 
Ok... a new comp starts anew. There are some new rules and observations in....

A few rules
1. I post a pic people send to me (please... I need them to keep the thread going.. male and female ones wanted). The pic is left up for a day or two.... and people guess. All those who guessed right get a point

2. The provider gets a 'thank you' in the form of guaranteed points.
0% right = 5 points for the provider
1% - 10% = 4 points
11% - 30% = 3 points
31% - 50% = 2 points
over 50% = 1 point
So... if you provide a picture, be sure to vote for someone else so lower the percentage that vote for you. Crafty, eh?:devil:

3. People who it is KNOWN may know who it is.. if they KNOW and PM me, they can get a 'crafty point' by misleading people and voting wrongly. You can ONLY get a 'crafy point' if you KNOW who it is.. and it is generally known that you know who the person is... if this isn't the case, just guess normally and don't give it away.But remember... do you want to help the provider get a lower percentage?

4. Once you have guessed that is it. No changing or editing, even for typos. Edited posts are void.

5. When someone reaches 20... they are the winner of that particular comp, and the top 3 (gold, silver and bronze) get their names put into the 'hall of fame' in post #1. Scores are then reset. This is to encourage new people to take part.

6. PLEASE don't vote for yourself. It's achieves nothing.

7. PLEASE ignore rule 7. It's shite.

8. PLEASE keep any nasty, sarcastic comments to yourself, even if they are a 'bit of a laugh' to you, they might not be to the provider.

9. PLEASE don't give away who it is if you know (or think you do). It spoils it for EVERYONE.

PLEASE FOLKS I NEED PICS OR CONFIRMATION I CAN USE YOUR (OR SOME FRIENDS') NAMES..... PLEASE HELP IF YOU CAN. IF IT'S PROVIDING A PIC... A NAME, OR PASSING THE MESSAGE


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Forget it

In a nutshell...

A while ago a few people posted what I thought were thoughtless and nasty comments about a female pic. Some PMs flew. One accepted it and felt guilty. Another said she just felt like it so what and another thought it was 'a laugh' and I needed to get over myself.

All I was doing was looking out for the person who posted the picture. She wasn't much fussed, but it's not the point. None of them knew who it was, and they COULD have been hurt. None take part any more.

I added a rule asking people not to be nasty.

Then with this picture there were a couple of similar such comments. Now I happen to KNOW the person concerned quite literally could not give a fuck.... and the 2 who posted the comments probably knew that. I knew no malice was intended.

But a precedent had been set..... you must have some sort of fairness here. You can't take the piss out of teh picture if you know that person won't mind.. it opens it up for others.... and the 3 who I had a go at would (quite rightly) complain that I admonished them, and let this go. It's simply unfair.... not even taking into account it probably gave away who it was to anyone who cared to read.

One was someone I love and it caused a spat..... and I'm feeling very low right now. I have no idea why. People love me and are wonderful. I'm a lucky person. I just feel like life is awful..... but this spat hurt me, and her greatly.

The other was someone who is a good friend... and all I got was a reply basically having a go and to remove her from the thread. The sole reply was she knew who it was would not mind... but as I said before that's simply not the point.

I'm tired of always looking out for people, defending them, and trying to do the right thing constantly.... only to constantly have hassle and backbiting at me. It just depresses me further.

It's a LOT of time and effort doing this (and the other stuff), but I do this simply for fun and to give others a bit of fun. I do it to escape my boring, mundane existance and the daily pressures of life. To relax.

It hasn't been that case lately. I'm sorry.

No idea what I plan to do..... but at the moment I have no idea. Sorry to everyone.

I hope this clears up people's questions adequately.


I said I wasn't going to do this but as usual I have to have the last word :rolleyes::eek:


Firstly, and most importantly, a public apology to DB for causing trouble and upset. And to all regulars of this thread I offer the same apology.


Secondly, and importantly to maybe no one else but me, I do want to just make a few comments.

~ I received a text from a friend at 11pm on Sunday night asking me to check my PMs if I was still up. I was greeted with 2 PMs, one of which was from DB asking me to edit my post because I broke rule 8. I will hold my hand up and say sorry, what I originally posted was not meant as an insult or nastily it was just honestly and truthfully my instant reaction that I was surprised it was a list of male names because on viewing the pic of a hand I had expected female names. I accept that this is not in keeping with rule 8.
A question for you all - It would not be acceptable for anyone to post something thing like "what a fucking ugly cunt you are" but even so when and how does this become a nasty sarcastic comment rather than a friendly joke or bit of banter between friends?


~The PM also stated that my post had contributed to giving away who the hand belonged to. I will admit I was annoyed by that. I have highlighted in the above quotes rules 3 & 9. How could a bit of banter have given the game away? How can you reconcile rules 3 & 9 in that I know three of the people named and have spent time in the company of two of them? Could me saying it was one of them not have been me attempting to draw people away from another answer as per rule 3?? Could simply putting the answer A or B etc be enough to draw others away from C?

~ Yes my reply was abrupt and I said I was quitting and not playing anymore. Getting admonished like a kid at 11pm did not put me in a good frame of mind which largely caused the abruptness.

~ DB does not put up pics without the subject's express permission as all pics are ones sent to him by the subject, specifically for the thread. This is a porn board, it is (primarily) inhabited by adults therefore if the subject cannot deal with the possible replies then they should not provide a pic.

~ At the end of the day I am who I am. This is the Playground, it is meant to be fun. As far as I am concerned if all I can do is come into the thread and go "D please DB" there is no fun. I like to banter, make a comment, perhaps say what I did about it being a feminine looking hand, in short make a fun post. If I have to stop and think about every single word I type it is no fun. It has just occured to me that even the most sincere compliment could cause upset - what if I compliment the pic of a woman's breast and this upset her because she reads my profile, sees I am bi and feels I am making a pass at her? I am not prepared to just reply A, B, C etc so I am not going to take part anymore.
 
All I can say is.. if you can't see how
a. 'Banter between friends' when you aren't supposed to know who it is... sorta gives it away to anyone who cares to look.

b. How you simply CANNOT have one rule for 'banter' when it's 'okay', and not for others. Surely that's not too difficult a concept to comprehend is it?

I rely on the goodwill of people to send me stuff. Some may be put off by some comments.

How is it so bad of me to say about this... but OK to tell the people off about Morri's pic? It's not. They would have (quite rightly!) said why is it OK for you? Again.. this surely is not too difficult to grasp.

To answer your question..... you putting A or B or C would be diverting someone away. You doing banter like that.... anyone who remotely knows the relationship would know. I had a situation like this early on with GS and charmed. They thought they were being clever.... but they over-egged it... and EVERYONE who guessed afterwards knew who it was. It was obvious. It was also unfair to those who guessed early. They got funny with me at first, but when I explained they understood. You highlight rule 3, yet it has nothing to do with this... and your PM to me explaining must have gone astray.

Also... you can't have it both ways. On one hand you say
"It's banter between friends"
On the other you say
"I didn't give nuthin' away.. no sirree bob"
So which is it? At the very least you narrowed it down to 3.... but ANYONE who knew, would figure it out. Lexie realised that.

All I am trying to do is be fair. People ask why so many rules... THIS is why.

How you simply cannot see how your feminine hands comment may lead to other things, I don't understand.

If you can't have any fun by bantering WITHOUT giving it away or causing potential problems in future by making sarcastic remarks, or possibly giving 'banter' to a provider who may not like it.... like everyone else seems to be able to do with no trouble.... then please don't take part. Please. I don't think it's too much to ask. The rules are there.... if you cannot follow them, or think they are prohibitive, again..... then don't take part. Anyway... I don't think there's much of a thread for you to not take part in now is there?

Anyway.... yes.. you most certainly are who you are. I've never quite seen an 'apology' quite like yours. 2 lines in bold and then FIVE paragraphs laying in to me and 'debating' the rules that I've worked with for years, with no hassle, that everyone seems to be able to live with... as if they are even for you to debate. They aren't. You take the time and effort to do something like this and you can debate some rules in your thread. So please.... don't take me for a fool and say that's an 'apology'. It's a bit like saying "I'm very sorry for calling you a fat cunt DB..... but actually, you are fat and you are a cunt, and here's a long explanation of WHY I think you're a fat cunt for eveyone to 'debate'".

And some people wonder why the fuck I bother.

I do too.
 
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OK...I know I was involved in this too...I have apologised to DB off thread for my part in it and I don't really want to make any more comment on what happened.

I just want to say can we please stop this now...it's going to happen sometimes that people don't agree on everything and no matter how many times we go over it I don't think it would be resolved...so for the sake of everyone can we just agree to disagree here. Please. :(
 
Thanks people.... I must admit I'm still not sure about continuing with the thread. I just want to do it with no hassle.... which seems a lot to ask lately. It's done to give people fun, and because I've found it fun myself. But lately it's not been that much fun because of a couple of issues, and has become more of a chore.

I'm sorry to those who have supplied pictures..... I do hope to start, but at the moment am just finding it hard to get enthusiasm. I know some may find it hard to believe, but I really hate all the confrontation..... but neither will I sit back when I think someone has acted badly here..... whoever it is.

So we will see. I'm sorry. :( :eek:
 
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Thanks people.... I must admit I'm still not sure about continuing with the thread. I just want to do it with no hassle.... which seems a lot to ask lately. It's done to give people fun, and because I've found it fun myself. But lately it's not been that much fun because of a couple of issues, and has become more of a chore.

I'm sorry to those who have supplied pictures..... I do hope to start, but at the moment am just finding it hard to get enthusiasm. I know some may find it hard to believe, but I really hate all the confrontation..... but neither will I sit back when I think someone has acted badly here..... whoever it is.

So we will see. I'm sorry. :( :eek:

Hi DirtyBear,

Take your time my love and think it through so that you will be happy, either way. It's your thread and your decision. I hope that all the problems can be resolved amicably.

Bless you :)


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Hi DirtyBear,

Take your time my love and think it through so that you will be happy, either way. It's your thread and your decision. I hope that all the problems can be resolved amicably.

Bless you :)


:kiss::rose:

Echoing this because Sienna has weaved the words so beautiful.

:kiss: :kiss:
 
Thanks people.... I must admit I'm still not sure about continuing with the thread. I just want to do it with no hassle.... which seems a lot to ask lately. It's done to give people fun, and because I've found it fun myself. But lately it's not been that much fun because of a couple of issues, and has become more of a chore.

I'm sorry to those who have supplied pictures..... I do hope to start, but at the moment am just finding it hard to get enthusiasm. I know some may find it hard to believe, but I really hate all the confrontation..... but neither will I sit back when I think someone has acted badly here..... whoever it is.

So we will see. I'm sorry. :( :eek:

Same old, same old :rolleyes:
 
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