Who mentors you?

[Angeline]

Angeline-

Remember that true story I told you about the woman who was an abused wife and found herself in jail for a month accused of accessory to murder when all she did was turn in a gun given to her by a friend and she was afraid to tell her husband where it came from so she lied to avoid being beaten? (sorry for the run on sentence)

When I was in rehab ten years ago, I told my counselor that I was planning on writing and she said, write what you know.

I wish you luck and with your fantastic imagination, you might pull it off, but I don't see how you could "get" the feelings of abandonment and dread that comes with being locked away from family, young babies, it is the most awful thing ever, especially when the charges are bogus and you are facing possibly 20 years of hell....and eventually having the charges dismissed doesn't make things better.

I will look forward to reading it.

Hey sis.

I well remember you telling me that story. I understand your point, but I believe it's possible to transfer similar feelings about experiences one did have, to another one didn't experience. You know, for example, I'm a big fan of writers like Dickens and John Irving and they did/do this all the time in their novels: write convincingly about experiences they never had. Course whether or not I can do it remains to be seen. I haven't actually written anything but plans yet because I need to have a framework in place before I start the actual story (eagleyez invents as he goes along when he writes fiction, but I don't think I can work that way--I'd write myself into too may corners!). So we'll see, but whether I accomplish this or not I'm having a lot of fun trying to figure it all out.

The mountains are beautiful right now: the trees are just beginning to turn fallish.

 

[Angeline]

Double post! Woopsie

 

[normal jean]

Hey sis.

I well remember you telling me that story. I understand your point, but I believe it's possible to transfer similar feelings about experiences one did have, to another one didn't experience. You know, for example, I'm a big fan of writers like Dickens and John Irving and they did/do this all the time in their novels: write convincingly about experiences they never had. Course whether or not I can do it remains to be seen. I haven't actually written anything but plans yet because I need to have a framework in place before I start the actual story (eagleyez invents as he goes along when he writes fiction, but I don't think I can work that way--I'd write myself into too may corners!). So we'll see, but whether I accomplish this or not I'm having a lot of fun trying to figure it all out.

The mountains are beautiful right now: the trees are just beginning to turn fallish.

If anyone can do it, you can!


I was up there for the 4th of July, visiting Fawnie and her girls. We had a good time. I took them around and showed them where I grew up stomping around in the rivers and creeks. Since then I have been up there 3 times. I miss it more each time. Homesickness is an odd thing... My uncle has offered me my grandma's house if I decide to live in Tryon, just haven't made up my mind yet. I am waiting for K to move on to grad school then we are hitting the road to work.

 

[normal jean]

some people have enough imagination, and empathy, to 'get' situations they have never personally experienced. just as well, since many novelists depend upon being able to create a virtual reality using material they've not lived through. it is enough that they convince the reader.

hey chip-

Ange and I have known each other for going on 9 years now, or close to it. She knows me better than I know myself. To clarify, I was not slighting her ability, I know she "gets" any concept she would ever attempt to present to her audience, I was merely saying that for someone who never experienced being ripped away from family and real life, that particular concept is a tough one. She is one of the most gifted writers/poets I have ever known and I have no doubt that anything she writes will be a bestseller in any market.

I wasn't insulting her and she knows it. She is more of a sister to me than my own, and I to, am aware of the concept of suspension of disbelief. Don't hold my past against me, k?



ps, Congrats on the Mod status. I'm sure you are an asset to this forum.

 

[butters]

hey chip-

Ange and I have known each other for going on 9 years now, or close to it. She knows me better than I know myself. To clarify, I was not slighting her ability, I know she "gets" any concept she would ever attempt to present to her audience, I was merely saying that for someone who never experienced being ripped away from family and real life, that particular concept is a tough one. She is one of the most gifted writers/poets I have ever known and I have no doubt that anything she writes will be a bestseller in any market.

I wasn't insulting her and she knows it. She is more of a sister to me than my own, and I to, am aware of the concept of suspension of disbelief. Don't hold my past against me, k?



ps, Congrats on the Mod status. I'm sure you are an asset to this forum.

i didn't think you were slighting Angeline, just adding my own thoughts to your post; being relatively new to this site, i don't know enough of anyone's background for it to be formative of my opinions of them. i'm more interested about how people react to one another here and what writings and thoughts they choose to share.

thankyou

 

[Angeline]

hey chip-

Ange and I have known each other for going on 9 years now, or close to it. She knows me better than I know myself. To clarify, I was not slighting her ability, I know she "gets" any concept she would ever attempt to present to her audience, I was merely saying that for someone who never experienced being ripped away from family and real life, that particular concept is a tough one. She is one of the most gifted writers/poets I have ever known and I have no doubt that anything she writes will be a bestseller in any market.

I wasn't insulting her and she knows it. She is more of a sister to me than my own, and I to, am aware of the concept of suspension of disbelief. Don't hold my past against me, k?



ps, Congrats on the Mod status. I'm sure you are an asset to this forum.

Hey for the record I didn't think you were slighting me or that Chip was trying to defend me. We're all just sharing opinions here.

 

[CharleyH]

Jeez. This sure sounds like a thread about favourite poets, Ang. BTW? Why am I not on your top ten poet list? I am completely and totally offended! NOT!

 

[Karen Kraft]

It's good to be patriotic.

yeah, a flag​

and this has what to do with this thread, exactly?

if it's inspiration, fine, but that's not what the thread's asking for. who do you turn to, read, discuss writing with in order to get you motivated to create your own?

 

[kikmosa]

For me it's pictures. I see a picture and the words are just there. The poem just comes to life in a flash. Can't stop them, I have to write them down right there and then. Not all pictures thank God. Funny thing is I rarely ever read poems. I've never been able to find where they spring from. Once they're written though, I can just leave them.

 

[butters]

For me it's pictures. I see a picture and the words are just there. The poem just comes to life in a flash. Can't stop them, I have to write them down right there and then. Not all pictures thank God. Funny thing is I rarely ever read poems. I've never been able to find where they spring from. Once they're written though, I can just leave them.

do you ever go looking for pictures to inspire, kikmosa? like some of us might search a dictionary or watch certain films or read specific poets, do you seek out particular artists or is it more a case of a quite random image setting off a chain-reaction of words?

 

[CharleyH]

I know this is an old thread, but I don't know. I used to think I influenced myself, Ang. I was happy in my little poetry world where my rules ruled. I'm honestly not sure anymore. I can quip a great line or two, and used to be confidant that I could write a whole poem, but I am no longer sure and I don't know where this insecurity comes from ... maybe from posting here? I feel week as a poet compared to you or Eve or Tzara and others. If the poetry board needs anything, then it's an injection of honesty combined with genuine assistance to new or non-confident poets. xo

 

[Angeline]

I know this is an old thread, but I don't know. I used to think I influenced myself, Ang. I was happy in my little poetry world where my rules ruled. I'm honestly not sure anymore. I can quip a great line or two, and used to be confidant that I could write a whole poem, but I am no longer sure and I don't know where this insecurity comes from ... maybe from posting here? I feel week as a poet compared to you or Eve or Tzara and others. If the poetry board needs anything, then it's an injection of honesty combined with genuine assistance to new or non-confident poets. xo

Well that's true, we do need honesty and more assistance--though I personally can't find time to give that kind of effort to the forum now, not while I'm trying to write this novel. So I guess it's sort of hypocritical to agree if one can't help.

But you should ask yourself who you are writing for--yourself, Lauren, some publisher? I think we all need to go easier on ourselves, not try less to write the poem one can, but try to remember that not everything one writes will be stellar. And my poetry may not be someone else's idea of especially good writing. I'm ok with that, mostly. One of the reasons I don't do a lot of challenges anymore is because I'm not really very competitive, and a challenge doesn't necessarily further what I'm trying to write at a given time. I think we need to give ourselves permission to be who we are and not always our best. The only thing that really makes me improve is lots of practice in what interest me.

 

[kikmosa]

do you ever go looking for pictures to inspire, kikmosa? like some of us might search a dictionary or watch certain films or read specific poets, do you seek out particular artists or is it more a case of a quite random image setting off a chain-reaction of words?

More of a random thing. I mean sometimes I go looking through images on the net, especially nature ones, but I never know when one will catch me. And it could be a picture of anything or anyone. Had quite a book full of them at one time.

 

[butters]

I know this is an old thread, but I don't know. I used to think I influenced myself, Ang. I was happy in my little poetry world where my rules ruled. I'm honestly not sure anymore. I can quip a great line or two, and used to be confidant that I could write a whole poem, but I am no longer sure and I don't know where this insecurity comes from ... maybe from posting here? I feel week as a poet compared to you or Eve or Tzara and others. If the poetry board needs anything, then it's an injection of honesty combined with genuine assistance to new or non-confident poets. xo

Oi! missus!

we ALL feel that way, on and off. i read the likes of Tzara, greenmountaineer, friday, and many more of you and feel like there's nothing i have to offer that'd help but all i can say is why i enjoy the creations. in this i am always absolutely honest.

people newer, less-developed in the ways of the word i am happy offering my opinions to - tending to comment on a more shallow level unless/until they specify they desire an in-depth look. i don't even mind if they don't respond much or do anything about any suggestions i might make, as the posts are then there as illustrations for other newer to read and - possibly - learn from.

and i know i'm not alone. there are generous poets here, yourself numbered amongst them, who give their time and talents to the benefit of this forum now i have been too busy this past two weeks to do anything much here, but my 2 week job experience thingy ends tomorrow. i'll do what i can to offer further comments and insight, and get back to Laurel about the possibility of the e-publication. time is always at a premium for people here, when it comes to writing, responding, whatever - too many of yous slope off to the mucky stories and fritter away your words in dirty pee-ems. ha, you filthy bunch

 

[butters]

More of a random thing. I mean sometimes I go looking through images on the net, especially nature ones, but I never know when one will catch me. And it could be a picture of anything or anyone. Had quite a book full of them at one time.

random's good! you never know what'll arrive when