Why is Israel STILL killing people in Gaza?

[CuriousJInLA]

Jews seem to forget it is Hitler that is their enemy. And if there is anything that has made them unsatisfied, they should turn to Germany for compensation, because according to the Bible and other traditions, the sons or the late generations must pay back the debts owned by their fathers. German people must face the music and Israeli people should find the right tree to bark.
Happy New Year to you all!

With all due respect, there are so many problems with this statement. Hitler has been dead for 80 years. Obviously Germany cannot atone for the atrocities of its past, but they have done more than most post Nazi regime to edify the Israeli state (arms, trade, Geopolitical diplomatic policy, etc.,). BUT IMO Germany today is a poor scapegoat for the current situation in Israel and Palestine. Remember that Israel supported Hamas as a foil against the PLO (much as the US armed, trained, and supported the mujahadin against the USSR). Leadership, public sentiment, geopolitical considerations change. As the saying goes, “One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.”

To be clear I’m not condoning targeted violence against anyone. Furthermore I’m married to a Jewish woman whose father escaped Germany in the late 1930s. But Israel has had its foot on the neck of Palestine for the better part of its modern existence. It’s also broken treaties, agreements, and unscrupulously killed noncombatants and leveled cities, all under the guise of self defense and with tacit or explicit support from the US and others. Any criticism is decried as antisemitism (and I’m aware that antisemitism is rampant and real).

No one can change the actions of our predecessors. But here we are. From my perspective the only reasonable option is a two state, independent and sovereign, solution, recognized by the UN. It will not solve everything by a long stretch. But I can’t see a chance for peace and progress any other way

 

[StrentWriter]

Why?

Because it was never about self defence.

It’s about taking the land and erasing the Palestinians.

Anyone who tries to convince you that it’s okay to starve an entire country, to allow one group of people to go everywhere and restrict the other from movement, to convince you that destroying olive trees thousands of years old is strategic for defence, anyone who tries to convince you that the deaths of 20,000 children including over 1000 new borns, is in the interest of defence, is a liar, probably a racist, and most definitely lacking basic humanity.

Zionism is no different from Nazism. Look at the language used, the rhetoric, the tactics, the apartheid, the mass killings, the mass destruction, the displacement.

It needs to end.

Anyone outing themselves as Zionist to you, step away as quickly as possible.

I used to believe in the two state solution - but all that has happened is the undermining of it in favour of a one state solution.

So have the one state solution.

But it cannot be an ethnostate of any kind whilst there are peoples of different ethnicities and religions in it.

We talk about the Muslim aligned Palestinians as they have suffered the most but the Bedouins, Druze and Christian Palestinians have also suffered much and been virtually wiped out by Israel.

It’s inconceivable to me that there are so many people on this forum that have dehumanised Palestinians and other races to all exclusion and favour Israel, particularly given many of them also cite the holocaust in WW2. That’s reprehensible.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Jews seem to forget it is Hitler that is their enemy. And if there is anything that has made them unsatisfied, they should turn to Germany for compensation, because according to the Bible and other traditions, the sons or the late generations must pay back the debts owned by their fathers. German people must face the music and Israeli people should find the right tree to bark.
Happy New Year to you all!

The movement to decolonize Israel from the Arab invaders began long before Hitler was born. Someone from an imperialist power like China can’t understand what it means to have your homeland taken from you.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

With all due respect, there are so many problems with this statement. Hitler has been dead for 80 years. Obviously Germany cannot atone for the atrocities of its past, but they have done more than most post Nazi regime to edify the Israeli state (arms, trade, Geopolitical diplomatic policy, etc.,). BUT IMO Germany today is a poor scapegoat for the current situation in Israel and Palestine. Remember that Israel supported Hamas as a foil against the PLO (much as the US armed, trained, and supported the mujahadin against the USSR). Leadership, public sentiment, geopolitical considerations change. As the saying goes, “One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.”

To be clear I’m not condoning targeted violence against anyone. Furthermore I’m married to a Jewish woman whose father escaped Germany in the late 1930s. But Israel has had its foot on the neck of Palestine for the better part of its modern existence. It’s also broken treaties, agreements, and unscrupulously killed noncombatants and leveled cities, all under the guise of self defense and with tacit or explicit support from the US and others. Any criticism is decried as antisemitism (and I’m aware that antisemitism is rampant and real).

No one can change the actions of our predecessors. But here we are. From my perspective the only reasonable option is a two state, independent and sovereign, solution, recognized by the UN. It will not solve everything by a long stretch. But I can’t see a chance for peace and progress any other way

There’s been a two-state solution in place for almost 80 years. People always forget that Jordan was also created out of British Palestine.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

We talk about the Muslim aligned Palestinians as they have suffered the most but the Bedouins, Druze and Christian Palestinians have also suffered much and been virtually wiped out by Israel.

It’s inconceivable to me that there are so many people on this forum that have dehumanised Palestinians and other races to all exclusion and favour Israel, particularly given many of them also cite the holocaust in WW2. That’s reprehensible.

The Christians and Druze who live in Israel are protected, unlike in the Muslim states of Lebanon and Syria. The Muslims either oppress or expel anyone who refuses to convert to Islam. For example, look at Bethlehem in Judea. It used to have a Christian majority, but after decades of being controlled by the Palestinian Authority, it's dangerous for anyone who's not a Muslim to visit.

 

[Wilson23]

There’s been a two-state solution in place for almost 80 years. People always forget that Jordan was also created out of British Palestine.

Then it would have to be a three-state solution, because Jordan has made clear it doesn't want the WB.

 

[Wilson23]

The Christians and Druze who live in Israel are protected, unlike in the Muslim states of Lebanon and Syria. The Muslims either oppress or expel anyone who refuses to convert to Islam. For example, look at Bethlehem in Judea. It used to have a Christian majority, but after decades of being controlled by the Palestinian Authority, it's dangerous for anyone who's not a Muslim to visit.

Hard to believe that. Bethlehem. Tourist $$$.

 

[Rightguide]

Isn't there a cease-fire on? Aren't all the hostages either free or dead?

Are they being fired upon by surviving Hamas members?

 

[Wilson23]

Are they being fired upon by surviving Hamas members?

I dunno, are they?

Are there even any surviving Hamas members?

 

[Rightguide]

I dunno, are they?

Are there even any surviving Hamas member?

Apparently, there are.

 

[briancamdudetenger2018]

i do not think this long time on going feud is gonna end

 

[Wilson23]

i do not think this long time on going feud is gonna end

Unless we genocide BOTH sides! In the name of world peace and quiet!

 

[StrentWriter]

The Christians and Druze who live in Israel are protected

You’re still a fucking liar.

https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/the-plight-of-christians-in-the-holy-land-worsens

At least three people were killed and several others were injured after the Holy Family Church in northern Gaza—the only Catholic Church there—was hit by an Israeli strike on Thursday morning. Among the injured was the parish priest, Fr. Gabriel Romanelli.

The church was sheltering civilians, including a number of children with disabilities, according to Fadel Naem, acting director of Al-Ahli Hospital, which received the wounded. Others injured included one child with disabilities, two women, and an elderly person, Naem said. This is not the first time the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) targeted a church.

On October 19, 2023, just twelve days after the October 7 attacks, the IDF bombed the nearby fifth-century church of St. Porphyrius, Gaza’s most ancient—also considered the third oldest church in the world. At least eighteen people were killed, including two Catholic women.

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/f-israel-350-0

TEL AVIV’S Rabin Square rang to chants of “We want equality!” from 90,000 protesters last night at a Druze-led demonstration against the Israeli government’s apartheid nation state law.

Hundreds of brightly coloured Druze flags, which are rarely seen outside the community, fluttered in the square alongside the national banner. City Hall was also lit up in Druze colours.

Brigadier General Amal Assad, the most senior military commander of Israel’s Druze community, who is retired and on reserve, told the crowd: “I call for the government to abolish this law.”

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu failed in a face-to-face meeting to persuade Brig-Gen Assad and other Druze leaders to cancel the rally; the general accused him of turning Israel into an apartheid state.“We came here to tell the entire Israeli nation, with all of the Israeli people, that this country is for all of us,” the general declared.“We were born here, we will die here, we love this country, we have defended it and we will continue to live here together – Jews, Arabs, Druze, Circassians, Bedouins, as equal brothers. We are all Israelis.”

For example, look at Bethlehem in Judea. It used to have a Christian majority, but after decades of being controlled by the Palestinian Authority, it's dangerous for anyone who's not a Muslim to visit.

Yes, because of the IDF and Israelis you lying cunt, not because of the Palestinians.

https://imemc.org/article/israeli-soldiers-injure-many-palestinians-in-bethlehem-4/

On Monday evening, Israeli soldiers injured many Palestinians in Al-Khader and Beit Fajjar towns, south of Bethlehem in the occupied West Bank.

Media sources reported that several military vehicles invaded Al-Khader, especially the Al-Baloa’ area, and fired many gas bombs and concussion grenades at the Palestinians to force them to leave the streets.

They added that the gas bombs also struck a few homes, causing many Palestinians to suffer the effects of tear gas inhalation.

The soldiers also invaded Beit Fajjar, especially the town’s center and the Al-Mothallath area, before firing gas bombs and concussion grenades, causing several injuries.

In related news, the soldiers invaded Ar-Ram town, north of occupied Jerusalem, closed streets, and fired several gas bombs and concussion grenades.

In Ramallah, in the central West Bank, the army invaded Nabi Saleh village, northwest of the city, twice in just a few hours, fired many gas bombs, and closed several streets.

Also on Monday, Israeli forces killed a Palestinian young man, on Monday, in the northern West Bank city of Jenin, burning a citizen’s home and forcibly displacing more families in the Jenin refugee camp, on the army’s 49th consecutive day of aggression.

The Palestinian Health Ministry announced that the young man, Ahmad Fathi Ahmad Salah, 35, was killed after an Israeli military vehicle rammed his motorcycle in Jenin city.

On Monday evening, the Israeli army fired a missile at a Palestinian east of Rafah in the southernmost part of the Gaza Strip, killing one person.

Furthermore, in another breach of the fragile ceasefire agreement, forces dropped a bomb from a drone in central Gaza, killing three brothers. This follows the killing of a woman by Israeli gunfire in Rafah, southern Gaza, earlier the same day.

 

[wallstreetguy]

Two Israelis killed in a terror attack in Israel today.

19-year-old Aviv Maor and 68-year-old Shimson Mordecai.

May their memories be a blessing.

Your leftist allies are celebrating this.

 

[gxnn]

The movement to decolonize Israel from the Arab invaders began long before Hitler was born. Someone from an imperialist power like China can’t understand what it means to have your homeland taken from you.

What you said is not without reason or possibility, but in most cases, it is something one learns about by reading history books. However, Hitler's mass murder of Jews across Europe was witnessed or personally experienced by many people who are still alive today. It is precisely because this event occurred so recently that it holds greater persuasiveness and impact.

Most people are not hotel guests or renters, so your neighbors are unlikely to move away in most cases. In China, there are also many rural villages adjacent to each other, where 'the sounds of chickens and dogs can be heard from each other, yet the people live out their lives without interacting'—and there are still quite a few villages that engage in frenzied competition over limited resources, even resorting to large-scale armed conflicts.


A similar incident occurred in Hunan Province in the 1990s, where villagers on both sides erupted into conflict over a trivial matter. The scale of violence they employed left the police sent to handle the situation dumbfounded, to the point where they had to call for reinforcements. Moreover, both sides had highly organized structures with reasonable division of labor; they even had a field hospital set up by elderly traditional Chinese medicine practitioners to treat injured personnel at any time.

As can be seen, the enmity between the two sides has a long history, and the conflict was not a momentary impulse but fully premeditated. It was only after more than a thousand armed police officers were deployed that the incident was finally quelled.

 

[gxnn]

With all due respect, there are so many problems with this statement. Hitler has been dead for 80 years. Obviously Germany cannot atone for the atrocities of its past, but they have done more than most post Nazi regime to edify the Israeli state (arms, trade, Geopolitical diplomatic policy, etc.,). BUT IMO Germany today is a poor scapegoat for the current situation in Israel and Palestine. Remember that Israel supported Hamas as a foil against the PLO (much as the US armed, trained, and supported the mujahadin against the USSR). Leadership, public sentiment, geopolitical considerations change. As the saying goes, “One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.”

To be clear I’m not condoning targeted violence against anyone. Furthermore I’m married to a Jewish woman whose father escaped Germany in the late 1930s. But Israel has had its foot on the neck of Palestine for the better part of its modern existence. It’s also broken treaties, agreements, and unscrupulously killed noncombatants and leveled cities, all under the guise of self defense and with tacit or explicit support from the US and others. Any criticism is decried as antisemitism (and I’m aware that antisemitism is rampant and real).

No one can change the actions of our predecessors. But here we are. From my perspective the only reasonable option is a two state, independent and sovereign, solution, recognized by the UN. It will not solve everything by a long stretch. But I can’t see a chance for peace and progress any other way

As the old Chinese saying goes, 'When will the cycle of revenge end?' Therefore, for Israel and Palestine, both sides should focus on future generations, stop violent conflicts, and discuss how to live in peace. That is the right path.

However, currently, Israel seems to attempt to resolve issues by eliminating its opponents, which is indeed a last resort. Humans have always hoped and worked to eliminate pests like flies, mosquitoes, rats, and cockroaches, but even today, we can only accept the reality of coexisting peacefully with them.

Disney directly erected a monument to mice, portraying them as a positive image, and Chinese people also place the rat at the first position among the Chinese zodiac animals. So, given Israel's current strength, it is not realistic to completely eliminate other ethnic groups.

A country as large as China, with so much room for maneuver and strategic depth, still needs to maintain good relations with neighboring countries. You, a small country like Israel, what confidence do you have to provoke your neighbors everywhere? Living in constant anxiety, how can there be a quality of life?

 

[StrentWriter]

However, currently, Israel seems to attempt to resolve issues by eliminating its opponents, which is indeed a last resort.

It was its FIRST resort. That’s the problem.

 

[Bray123]

Since the terrorist organization Hamas launched its attacks on Israeli soil on October 7, 2023, around 1,200 Israelis died, and 5,431 were injured. Through retaliation attacks by the Israeli armed forces against Hamas in Gaza, 61,158 Palestinians were killed, and 151,442 were injured. As of August 2025, the number of Palestinian deaths in the West Bank was 955, due to the on going conflict.
https://www.statista.com/statistics...-injuries-caused-by-the-israel-and-hamas-war/

Scorecard:
Israeli casualties, 6,631
Palestinian casualties, 213,595

 

[Celand]

This is what Gaza should look like !

https://static.homeguide.com/assets/images/content/homeguide-empty-parking-lot-with-trees-and-lighting.jpg

 

[Celand]

Since the terrorist organization Hamas launched its attacks on Israeli soil on October 7, 2023, around 1,200 Israelis died, and 5,431 were injured. Through retaliation attacks by the Israeli armed forces against Hamas in Gaza, 61,158 Palestinians were killed, and 151,442 were injured. As of August 2025, the number of Palestinian deaths in the West Bank was 955, due to the on going conflict.
https://www.statista.com/statistics...-injuries-caused-by-the-israel-and-hamas-war/

Scorecard:
Israeli casualties, 6,631
Palestinian casualties, 213,595

... and your point is ?

 

[StrentWriter]

This is what Gaza should look like !

https://static.homeguide.com/assets/images/content/homeguide-empty-parking-lot-with-trees-and-lighting.jpg

Imagine being this brain dead and awful.

You should be ashamed.

 

[Rebel5soul]

As the old Chinese saying goes, 'When will the cycle of revenge end?' Therefore, for Israel and Palestine, both sides should focus on future generations, stop violent conflicts, and discuss how to live in peace. That is the right path.

However, currently, Israel seems to attempt to resolve issues by eliminating its opponents, which is indeed a last resort. Humans have always hoped and worked to eliminate pests like flies, mosquitoes, rats, and cockroaches, but even today, we can only accept the reality of coexisting peacefully with them.

Disney directly erected a monument to mice, portraying them as a positive image, and Chinese people also place the rat at the first position among the Chinese zodiac animals. So, given Israel's current strength, it is not realistic to completely eliminate other ethnic groups.

A country as large as China, with so much room for maneuver and strategic depth, still needs to maintain good relations with neighboring countries. You, a small country like Israel, what confidence do you have to provoke your neighbors everywhere? Living in constant anxiety, how can there be a quality of life?

With all that land why don't you invite Hamas in?

 

[Bray123]

... and your point is ?

 

[StrentWriter]

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Now add 2024 and 2025 in.

 

[Bray123]

Now add 2024 and 2025 in.

The axis would need to expand from 2,500 to 215,000.