Why is Israel STILL killing people in Gaza?

[LLCox]

Israels work is not done yet.

 

[StrentWriter]

Israels work is not done yet.

That is fucking chilling, man.

 

[LLCox]

That is fucking chilling, man.

God told the Jews to kill all the Philistines before the Bible was written. They didn't do it so here we are today. The Philistines are rabid animals. What you want to do is let it continue.

 

[Rightguide]

As the old Chinese saying goes, 'When will the cycle of revenge end?' Therefore, for Israel and Palestine, both sides should focus on future generations, stop violent conflicts, and discuss how to live in peace. That is the right path.

However, currently, Israel seems to attempt to resolve issues by eliminating its opponents, which is indeed a last resort. Humans have always hoped and worked to eliminate pests like flies, mosquitoes, rats, and cockroaches, but even today, we can only accept the reality of coexisting peacefully with them.

Disney directly erected a monument to mice, portraying them as a positive image, and Chinese people also place the rat at the first position among the Chinese zodiac animals. So, given Israel's current strength, it is not realistic to completely eliminate other ethnic groups.

A country as large as China, with so much room for maneuver and strategic depth, still needs to maintain good relations with neighboring countries. You, a small country like Israel, what confidence do you have to provoke your neighbors everywhere? Living in constant anxiety, how can there be a quality of life?

The dynamic there is the stated goal of the Hamas Islamists is to destroy all of Israel and its Jews. They don't want to live in a future that contains Jews.

 

[briancamdudetenger2018]

Unless we genocide BOTH sides! In the name of world peace and quiet!

sounds like something out of a tv show and or a movie

which is pretty scary if you think about it

 

[Wilson23]

sounds like something out of a tv show and or a movie

which is pretty scary if you think about it

Nowadays the movie seems to come first. It is then adapted to reality.

 

[gxnn]

The dynamic there is the stated goal of the Hamas Islamists is to destroy all of Israel and its Jews. They don't want to live in a future that contains Jews.

China has a history of five thousand years, and reading more about Chinese history will always be beneficial for us to understand the world.

Over two thousand years ago, there was a small vassal state called Qin. Through its own efforts and wisdom, it eliminated six other major states around it and achieved the first unification of China. This was an extraordinary achievement, but this dynasty lasted only a few decades before coming to an end.

One of the reasons was that among the six states it had eliminated, there were three families of war orphans who did not forget their ancestors' lessons and were determined to take revenge. However, a more important reason was that the leaders of Qin did not know how to govern the country, imposed tyrannical rule, and ultimately aroused the resentment of most people. Those three families were just the more prominent rebels among them.

Today's Israel is much like the ancient State of Qin.

Faced with a complex international situation, attempting to solve all problems through violence may seem to have the effect of cutting through tangled matters with a sharp knife, but in reality, it sows the seeds of disaster and brings endless future troubles.

From some statistical data, Israel's annual elimination of terrorists represented by Hamas can be considered a brilliant achievement, seemingly close to a major success. However, on the contrary, has Israel ever considered why the more people it kills, the more people rise up against it?

Furthermore, the phenomenon of an increasing number of people appearing in the data indicates that military suppression fundamentally cannot solve the problem.

 

[Celand]

Now add 2024 and 2025 in.

Now, if these fuckers stopped shooting civilians at bus stops, blowing themselves up, stabbing people and driving cars into groups of civilians ( never minds raping women and killing babies in ovens), there would be ZERO deaths, but them doing this shit and teaching their kids how to do this shit, I am not surprised, actually I am surprised that the count is so low !

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

China has a history of five thousand years, and reading more about Chinese history will always be beneficial for us to understand the world.

Over two thousand years ago, there was a small vassal state called Qin. Through its own efforts and wisdom, it eliminated six other major states around it and achieved the first unification of China. This was an extraordinary achievement, but this dynasty lasted only a few decades before coming to an end.

One of the reasons was that among the six states it had eliminated, there were three families of war orphans who did not forget their ancestors' lessons and were determined to take revenge. However, a more important reason was that the leaders of Qin did not know how to govern the country, imposed tyrannical rule, and ultimately aroused the resentment of most people. Those three families were just the more prominent rebels among them.

Today's Israel is much like the ancient State of Qin.

Faced with a complex international situation, attempting to solve all problems through violence may seem to have the effect of cutting through tangled matters with a sharp knife, but in reality, it sows the seeds of disaster and brings endless future troubles.

From some statistical data, Israel's annual elimination of terrorists represented by Hamas can be considered a brilliant achievement, seemingly close to a major success. However, on the contrary, has Israel ever considered why the more people it kills, the more people rise up against it?

Furthermore, the phenomenon of an increasing number of people appearing in the data indicates that military suppression fundamentally cannot solve the problem.

Israel existed as a state long before the Duke of Qin unified China. Know your place, newcomer.

 

[Wilson23]

Israel existed as a state long before the Duke of Qin unified China. Know your place, newcomer.

That Israel is not this, no more than the Republic of Italy is the Roman Republic. Ancient states can never be restored.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

That Israel is not this, no more than the Republic of Italy is the Roman Republic. Ancient states can never be restored.

I think it’s great that the Greeks got their independence from Turkey and the Indians threw off the British and Muslim yokes.

 

[Wilson23]

I think it’s great that the Greeks got their independence from Turkey and the Indians threw off the British and Muslim yokes.

But they didn't "restore" anything by doing it. Not even the Poles would have, if they had decided on a sejm and king after independence.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

But they didn't "restore" anything by doing it. Not even the Poles would have, if they had decided on a sejm and king after independence.

It’s true that when the Jews decolonized Israel, they established a modern liberal democracy. They didn’t revert to their ancient theocratic kingdom.

 

[Wilson23]

It’s true that when the Jews decolonized Israel, they established a modern liberal democracy. They didn’t revert to their ancient theocratic kingdom.

They did not decolonize anything. either. The residents were not colonists in any sense.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

They did not decolonize anything. either. The residents were not colonists in any sense.

The Palestinian Arabs speak a colonizer language, practice a colonizer religion, have no history on the land prior to the 20th century, and are culturally identical to people in surrounding Arab states.

 

[Wilson23]

The Palestinian Arabs speak a colonizer language, practice a colonizer religion, have no history on the land prior to the 20th century, and are culturally identical to people in surrounding Arab states.

So what? That does not make Jews entitled to their land.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

So what? That does not make Jews entitled to their land.

How do figure that Israel is “their land”?

Should the Jews get all the land back that was stolen from them during the Farhud?

 

[Wilson23]

How do figure that Israel is “their land”?

They lived there. They always had. Under Anglo-American law it only takes seven years to establish title.

Should the Jews get all the land back that was stolen from them during the Farhud?

No, the Pals should get back all that was stolen from them during the Nakba.

 

[Rightguide]

China has a history of five thousand years, and reading more about Chinese history will always be beneficial for us to understand the world.

Over two thousand years ago, there was a small vassal state called Qin. Through its own efforts and wisdom, it eliminated six other major states around it and achieved the first unification of China. This was an extraordinary achievement, but this dynasty lasted only a few decades before coming to an end.

One of the reasons was that among the six states it had eliminated, there were three families of war orphans who did not forget their ancestors' lessons and were determined to take revenge. However, a more important reason was that the leaders of Qin did not know how to govern the country, imposed tyrannical rule, and ultimately aroused the resentment of most people. Those three families were just the more prominent rebels among them.

Today's Israel is much like the ancient State of Qin.

Faced with a complex international situation, attempting to solve all problems through violence may seem to have the effect of cutting through tangled matters with a sharp knife, but in reality, it sows the seeds of disaster and brings endless future troubles.

From some statistical data, Israel's annual elimination of terrorists represented by Hamas can be considered a brilliant achievement, seemingly close to a major success. However, on the contrary, has Israel ever considered why the more people it kills, the more people rise up against it?

Furthermore, the phenomenon of an increasing number of people appearing in the data indicates that military suppression fundamentally cannot solve the problem.

Unlike the Qin state, Israel was not a rising empire seeking unification through conquest, but a small nation formed in the shadow of near-total annihilation, surrounded from its inception by openly hostile actors. This historical memory profoundly affects how Israeli society interprets violence, deterrence, and survival. Actions that may appear purely punitive or excessive to outsiders are often understood internally as preventative measures against perceived existential threats. You are correct that military force alone cannot resolve deep political and social conflicts, and history repeatedly shows that repression without political solutions breeds resistance. Many Israelis themselves debate this very issue. At the same time, Israel faces non-state actors whose stated goals include its destruction, not reform or coexistence, which complicates comparisons to classical rebellions against tyrannical rule.

The Holocaust functions for Israel much as ancient catastrophe myths did for older civilizations. Any analysis that omits this dimension will misunderstand not just Israeli policy, but its psychology as well.

 

[Wilson23]

Unlike the Qin state, Israel was not a rising empire seeking unification through conquest, but a small nation formed in the shadow of near-total annihilation, surrounded from its inception by openly hostile actors. This historical memory profoundly affects how Israeli society interprets violence, deterrence, and survival. Actions that may appear purely punitive or excessive to outsiders are often understood internally as preventative measures against perceived existential threats. You are correct that military force alone cannot resolve deep political and social conflicts, and history repeatedly shows that repression without political solutions breeds resistance. Many Israelis themselves debate this very issue. At the same time, Israel faces non-state actors whose stated goals include its destruction, not reform or coexistence, which complicates comparisons to classical rebellions against tyrannical rule.

The Holocaust functions for Israel much as ancient catastrophe myths did for older civilizations. Any analysis that omits this dimension will misunderstand not just Israeli policy, but its psychology as well.

But at this point they don't even need TROOPS PRESENT in Gaza to be safe.

 

[Rightguide]

But at this point they don't even need TROOPS PRESENT in Gaza to be safe.

You have to admit that Gaza is a terror base where children from birth are taught to kill Jews whenever possible.

 

[Wilson23]

You have to admit that Gaza is a terror base where children from birth are taught to kill Jews whenever possible.

This approach is no way to change that!

 

[Rightguide]

This approach is no way to change that!

Israel is a jewel not because it is flawless, but because it exists in the present. Around it lies a sea of ideological fossil beds, societies frozen in the 7th century, animated only by grievance, theology, and the accidental gift of modern weaponry. It is medieval theology with Wi-Fi, tribalism with rockets, and a death cult baffled that civilization refuses to lie down politely and die.

 

[Wilson23]

Israel is a jewel not because it is flawless, but because it exists in the present. Around it lies a sea of ideological fossil beds, societies frozen in the 7th century, animated only by grievance, theology, and the accidental gift of modern weaponry. It is medieval theology with Wi-Fi, tribalism with rockets, and a death cult baffled that civilization refuses to lie down politely and die.

But at this point they don't even need TROOPS PRESENT in Gaza to be safe.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

They lived there. They always had. Under Anglo-American law it only takes seven years to establish title.


No, the Pals should get back all that was stolen from them during the Nakba.

If you want to undo the Nakba, but not the Farhud, you're not not interested in justice, just in sticking it to the Jews. In the 20th Century, Jews from all over the Middle East were ethnically cleansed from Muslim states. Communities that had endured for centuries were broken up and driven out. Israel absorbed all these Mizrahi refugees. Why can't Jordan or Egypt absorb the Palestinians?