Why is Trump so stupid?

[Bray123]

It's a THREAT you fucking ass. It doesn't matter if you intend to carry it out, you just made a god damned threat against a former President.

You misspelled 'citizen'.

 

[dmallord]

His defense is that he, as the current President, was acting in his capacity as President when he addressed the people in attendance at the rally and is therefore immune.

What you don't understand, because you're a ninny, is that he was acting in his capacity as President because, AS PRESIDENT, he is always acting in that capacity regardless of where he is or what he is doing. This is established SCOTUS precedent.

Thus you begin with either ignorance or an outright lie, expand either to fit your needs, and invite the kangaroo into the courtroom to support the preconceived outcome.

Will it be determined that he acted in his Presidential capacity while engaged in the fake elector episodes or is that not relevant to the J6 situation?

 

[dmallord]

I don't think you know what the fuck you're talking about.

A threat can be ANY statement of intent to harm another. ANY statement, even a purported hypothetical.

People have gone to jail and/or prison for LESS THAN what you just did so you really do need to shut the hell up.

Trump: And the people of Georgia are angry, the people of the country are angry. And there’s nothing wrong with saying that, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated. And there’s nothing wrong with saying that, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated because the 2,236 and absentee ballots, I mean, they’re all exact numbers that were, were done by accounting firms, law firms, etc. And even if you cut ’em in half, cut ’em in half and cut ’em in half again, it’s more votes than we need.

You know Brad, what you did is illegal. You could go to jail for what you did.

RAFFENSPERGER: Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is the data you have is wrong. We, we talked to the congressmen, and they were surprised. But they — I guess, there’s a person named Mr. Brainard that came to these meetings and presented data and he said that there was dead people, I believe it was upward of 5,000. There were only two dead people votes.

TRUMP: ... because, you know what they did and you’re not reporting it. That’s a criminal — that’s a criminal offense. And you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. And that’s a big risk. But they are shredding ballots, in my opinion, based on what I’ve heard. And they are removing machinery and they’re moving it as fast as they can, both of which are criminal finds. And you can’t let it happen and you are letting it happen. You know, I mean, I’m notifying you that you’re letting it happen. So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have ...

Is that the kind of conversation that might convey a threat from a President to an elected official, @HisArpy?

 

[Bray123]

Will it be determined that he acted in his Presidential capacity while engaged in the fake elector episodes or is that not relevant to the J6 situation?

Of course it's the duty of an out-going president to line up a group of cult members, hide them in a basement overnight and get them to sign forged documents to be produced by magic in the morning.

Is it the duty of a Democratic President as well, or does it apply only to a Republican one?

 

[Pad_Foot]

Hasn’t he bashed and demeaned every one of these VP picks?

Said they were unworthy of the presidency?

Who wants a schmuck who would kiss the ass of someone who did that to them ??

Hmm? Maybe not all.

https://nypost.com/2024/02/20/us-ne...list-incudes-desantis-gabbard-scott-noem/amp/

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Keeping in line with the thread's title, we present you with this:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1760321584777093410

 

[Rick345]

So in essence the US is not required to spend any money and could refuse to provide monetary aid like 2/3ds of Nato members do as we speak. right?

NATO has nothing to do with providing monetary aid to anyone. What the charter says is fellow members should spend 2% of their individual GDP on their own militaries. If a NATO member comes under attack by someone other NATO members will come to their aid. What Trump said is when he is president if some NATO member doesn't spend 2% of their GDP on their own military the US will not come to their aid if they are attacked.

For example Canada spends only 1.35% of their GDP on the Canadian military.. So what Trump is saying if Russia invades Canada, Trump will not send in US military forces to repel the Russian invasion. What I'll saying if Russia invades north america I'd prefer fighting them in Whitehorse, Winnipeg, Edmonton than in Seattle, Minneapolis, or Toledo..

 

[Nicefella]

The answer to the question is 'because his supporters allow him to be dumb'.

There was once a person called Howard Dean whose ambitions ended because he shouted something whilst too close to the microphone. Didn't defraud any charities, mock any disabled people, disparage the military, invite foreign spies to stay, sexually assault various women, screw a whore whilst his wife was giving birth, suggest that a virus could be cured by shining a bright light up the ass or drinking bleach. Just 'screaming' was viewed a unpresidential and that was the end of Dean.

I remember this @Bray123 - thanks for reminding me.

It was the dumbest fucking thing I had ever come across. Dean was consistently beat on by the legacy Dems like Kerry and others - and the idiots at MSNBC and CNN went along. And this speech in Iowa or wherever where he supposedly screamed was to rally his supporters.

Meanwhile Dean’s fundraising model is now the norm and adopted by nearly all politicos. Btw Dean turned out to be a sellout anyway - joining the Dems as their Chairman or whatever big dick empty power position.

But this shows how stupid people collectively are. Repubs or Dems or whatever - just overall fucking stupid

 

[Rightguide]

NATO has nothing to do with providing monetary aid to anyone. What the charter says is fellow members should spend 2% of their individual GDP on their own militaries. If a NATO member comes under attack by someone other NATO members will come to their aid. What Trump said is when he is president if some NATO member doesn't spend 2% of their GDP on their own military the US will not come to their aid if they are attacked.

For example Canada spends only 1.35% of their GDP on the Canadian military.. So what Trump is saying if Russia invades Canada, Trump will not send in US military forces to repel the Russian invasion. What I'll saying if Russia invades north america I'd prefer fighting them in Whitehorse, Winnipeg, Edmonton than in Seattle, Minneapolis, or Toledo..

So the US is free, like the 2/3rds of present Nato members not to spend any money. Who has the power to help us if we were to be attacked here at home?

No military on Earth has the logistical ability to invade and conquer the United States. Put aside the logistical problems, the geographical barriers are formidable.

 

[Rightguide]

Will it be determined that he acted in his Presidential capacity while engaged in the fake elector episodes or is that not relevant to the J6 situation?

The RICO case against Trump will fail.

 

[HisArpy]

So the US is free, like the 2/3rds of present Nato members not to spend any money. Who has the power to help us if we were to be attacked here at home?

No military on Earth has the logistical ability to invade and conquer the United States. Put aside the logistical problems, the geographical barriers are formidable.

I'm not so sure. What happens if the invasion is allowed to occur without the government trying to prevent it? Or if said government assists it?

There are approximately 8 million unlawfully present migrants inside the US. What happens if 10% of them are "invaders" who are here with the intent to attack the country and have orders to do so from their respective foreign military commanders?

 

[Bray123]

I'm not so sure. What happens if the invasion is allowed to occur without the government trying to prevent it? Or if said government assists it?

There are approximately 8 million unlawfully present migrants inside the US. What happens if 10% of them are "invaders" who are here with the intent to attack the country and have orders to do so from their respective foreign military commanders?

Stop all those commies coming into Florida from Cuba, for a start.

 

[Rightguide]

I'm not so sure. What happens if the invasion is allowed to occur without the government trying to prevent it? Or if said government assists it?

There are approximately 8 million unlawfully present migrants inside the US. What happens if 10% of them are "invaders" who are here with the intent to attack the country and have orders to do so from their respective foreign military commanders?

I was referring to a conventional military attack, a three-ocean amphibious assault, and or conventional land invasions from the North or Mexico, not the 4th generation asymmetrical invasion that Biden is conducting. The massive guerrilla operation he's commanding at present is different.

 

[Rightguide]

Trump: And the people of Georgia are angry, the people of the country are angry. And there’s nothing wrong with saying that, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated. And there’s nothing wrong with saying that, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated because the 2,236 and absentee ballots, I mean, they’re all exact numbers that were, were done by accounting firms, law firms, etc. And even if you cut ’em in half, cut ’em in half and cut ’em in half again, it’s more votes than we need.

You know Brad, what you did is illegal. You could go to jail for what you did.

RAFFENSPERGER: Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is the data you have is wrong. We, we talked to the congressmen, and they were surprised. But they — I guess, there’s a person named Mr. Brainard that came to these meetings and presented data and he said that there was dead people, I believe it was upward of 5,000. There were only two dead people votes.

TRUMP: ... because, you know what they did and you’re not reporting it. That’s a criminal — that’s a criminal offense. And you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. And that’s a big risk. But they are shredding ballots, in my opinion, based on what I’ve heard. And they are removing machinery and they’re moving it as fast as they can, both of which are criminal finds. And you can’t let it happen and you are letting it happen. You know, I mean, I’m notifying you that you’re letting it happen. So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have ...

Is that the kind of conversation that might convey a threat from a President to an elected official, @HisArpy?

Yes, he wanted to find 11,780 votes he "believed" were there. So no "intent" to commit a crime or to defraud. Which is key.

 

[ll74]

Yes, he wanted to find 11,780 votes he "believed" were there. So no "intent" to commit a crime or to defraud. Which is key.

He had no business calling the SoS or election officials in GA nor Michigan. Legal challenges are how you resolve discrepancies

 

[dmallord]

Yes, he wanted to find 11,780 votes he "believed" were there. So no "intent" to commit a crime or to defraud. Which is key.

Trump's conversation was a strongarmed implied threat. Hey, you committed a crime, Brad. I'm telling you that. That was Trump's statements nothing in that part said I believe you did commit a crime. It was a statement of fact.

Trump followed up with 'find me those votes' and, of course, implied that the threat of Brad's crime would go away by finding them. That was clearly the message. The mafia boss language applied.

I understood Trump's reason for the call wasn't to express his opinion. As President, he was coercing a state-level administrator to make changes the administrator knew to be false. Knowing that Brad did the right thing. Knowing that the State of Georgia is prosecuting the ex-president, having the 'opinion' that what he did rises to the level of criminal actions.

It will be up to the State of Georgia to arrive at a decision about Trump's action - criminal or otherwise.

I 'believe' Trump's 'intent' was to coerce a wrongful change of numbers to benefit his re-election. If found guilty, I believe it would be justified. If found innocent, I'd shake my head but accept that.

How about you? Will you accept justice is served in either case? Stand up for a legal system's decision?

 

[SimonDoom]

Slant and bias abound in this post.

First you begin with "stupid" even though there's no evidence of it except as your opinion. Second, you, like Haley and the rest of the dum fuks, seem to miss the obvious - it's politics. Politics is the place where you cast accusations and slurs in order to try and get the other guys to do/say something which you can possibly build on. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

In this case it worked because it got Haley to say that her hubby is deployed with the NG. An obvious case of conflict of interest in her political decision making process and a failure on the part of hubby to resign his commission because of that conflict of interest. Case in point, as active duty military hubby would be required to salute the Mrs. were she to win the election in November. Further, Haley would be forced to choose between what's best for the nation or what's best for her family should she be required to call up and deploy the NG.

Clearly this is a problem Nikki Haley hasn't considered or rectified. Nor has her husband who, supposedly, knows the rules regarding this.

But of course you didn't see that because you're too invested in the narrative rather than truth and facts.

This is not a conflict of interest. There have been presidents and other officials whose children served in war. FDR, for example.

 

[SmokingFap]

Didn't know where else to put this. Just funny.

 

[SmokingFap]

Slant and bias abound in this post.

First you begin with "stupid" even though there's no evidence of it except as your opinion. Second, you, like Haley and the rest of the dum fuks, seem to miss the obvious - it's politics. Politics is the place where you cast accusations and slurs in order to try and get the other guys to do/say something which you can possibly build on. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

In this case it worked because it got Haley to say that her hubby is deployed with the NG. An obvious case of conflict of interest in her political decision making process and a failure on the part of hubby to resign his commission because of that conflict of interest. Case in point, as active duty military hubby would be required to salute the Mrs. were she to win the election in November. Further, Haley would be forced to choose between what's best for the nation or what's best for her family should she be required to call up and deploy the NG.

Clearly this is a problem Nikki Haley hasn't considered or rectified. Nor has her husband who, supposedly, knows the rules regarding this.

But of course you didn't see that because you're too invested in the narrative rather than truth and facts.

Umm...




Who the fuck cares about Nikki Haley?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

So the US is free, like the 2/3rds of present Nato members not to spend any money. Who has the power to help us if we were to be attacked here at home?

No military on Earth has the logistical ability to invade and conquer the United States. Put aside the logistical problems, the geographical barriers are formidable.

Bullshit. 9/11 or did you fucking forget?

 

[ABiGuy84]

Albert Einstein once said: "There are only two things in this World that are Infinite, The Universe and Stupidity; 'nd I'm not entirely sure of the former."

 

[RobDownSouth]

Albert Einstein once said: "There are only two things in this World that are Infinite, The Universe and Stupidity; 'nd I'm not entirely sure of the former."

We should add a third infinite constant: Donald Trump's unique ability to plumb new depths in his tireless efforts to coarsen public discourse.

 

[Rick345]

So the US is free, like the 2/3rds of present Nato members not to spend any money. Who has the power to help us if we were to be attacked here at home?

No military on Earth has the logistical ability to invade and conquer the United States. Put aside the logistical problems, the geographical barriers are formidable.

Money is never send to any NATO member from any other NATO member ever.. Just get that idea out of your head that's not how it works.

The other NATO nations have the power to help us.. They have men, ships, planes, subs, aircraft, missiles, etc.. While the logistics are mind boggling we did it during WWII to help England, France and Russia the same could be done in reverse. Without a doubt Canada could and would come to our aid.. Could Russia and China invade Canada? Sure.. Could they conquer it? Probably.. But Trump says he wouldn't come to Canada's aid.. That's the point.. If Russia and China invaded Alaska, Canada would certainly offer its assistance.. Do you see the difference..

 

[HisArpy]

Umm...




Who the fuck cares about Nikki Haley?

Based on her polling, nobody.

 

[Rightguide]

We should add a third infinite constant: Donald Trump's unique ability to plumb new depths in his tireless efforts to coarsen public discourse.

He's plumbed these depths:

Teamsters Union Makes Major Donation to Republicans After Meeting With Trump​

By Mike LaChance Feb. 22, 2024 10:20 pm

The International Brotherhood of Teamsters’ political action committee reported a $45,000 donation to the Republican National Committee’s (RNC) convention fund last month in a stark departure from the union’s history of giving primarily to Democrats.

The Teamsters PAC — known formally as Democrat, Republican, Independent Voter Education — earmarked the donation on Jan. 25, according to federal elections filings reviewed by Fox News Digital. The contribution was reported weeks after former President Trump, the clear front-runner to secure the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, met with Teamsters President Sean O’Brien and days before a second meeting between the two on January 31.

In a statement, Teamsters spokesperson Kara Deniz said the contribution was approved in December, before the union’s two meetings with Trump, and will be dispatched to the RNC soon. An RNC official told Fox News Digital that it has not received the contribution and that the Teamsters haven’t reached out about it.

Deniz added that it represented the first time the Teamsters would participate in both the Republican and Democrat conventions in more than two decades.

More here: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...kes-major-donation-republicans-after-meeting/

Read it and weep.