Will The Fraud demand a recount in Israel?

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[Sean Renaud]

Well if we have to endure the accusations of the left that criticism of Barack Obama is racism, why isn't criticism of Israel anti-Semitism, Hmmm? Just askin'.

Because in the real world they aren't remotely the same thing but lets break this down since after six years Republicans still don't fucking get it.

Criticism or Obama is not in and of itself racist, never has been, never will be. Feel free to criticize him. He has much to answer for. The accusations of racism stem from the unbridled hatred thrown at this president for things that every president does and we have spent years pointing out examples of things and asking where was the outrage then. It's the complete lack of respect, and the left wasn't always kind to Bush mind you but not like this.

It's the repeated attempts to tar Obama as something distinctly other than American. Born in Kenya and accusations of being a Muslim. The first made no difference legally and everybody knew it and the second shouldn't matter in a country that isn't a theocracy. But it was a distinct attempt to paint him as something different. It's also funny how quick Republicans are to point out that Obama isn't "Black" He's black, white and arab. Why do you even KNOW that in the first place? I get the half white part if you looked at his mother but why are you even digging deep enough to know about arabs and whatever else? We both know why.

And Republicans are far more likely to say "It's not because he's black it's because of 'x'" but 'x' is almost always ill defined because once pressed it's obvious that those accusations are at best half truths and you felt the need to cover your ass because your ass needed coverage. We could also point out some of the BS people attempt to prove they aren't, I get why you guys like Ben Carson, aside from being a bigot he's intelligent, well spoken, accomplished (the product of Affirmative Action and government aid and wants to pulle up the ladder behind him) largely on his own terms. He's a damn fine example of what the American Dream can be. But you trotted out Hermain Cain to say "Look guys, we have a black guy! He's a complete bufoon but we have one!" He's like the black Sarah Palin, chosen not for their merits but to be a complete token.

It's nobody's fault that Israel happens to be run by Jews however and nobody talks ill of the American Jewish population. . .actually scratch that. The Right constantly calls them fools for voting Democrat. Or any other Jewish population. There is a problem with Israel. By the by does that make Democrats Islamophobists as well since we all seem to agree that ISIS and Iran and several other countries, leaders and groups over there are evil as fuck?

 

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[Sean Renaud]

No, let's not. I don't feel like reading another one your demonstrations of mental gymnastics, in a convoluted attempt to redefine your gratuitous, unwarranted, use of the Race Card on every criticism of Barack Obama's actions by conservatives.

I don't use the race card on every criticism of Barack Obama. I don't think anybody does. You refuse to read it because you can't refute the simple truth that the difference in how Obama and Bush were treated for the exact same actions have a lot to do with race as did a lot of the efforts to paint him as something other than American.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Well if we have to endure the accusations of the left that criticism of Barack Obama is racism, why isn't criticism of Israel anti-Semitism, Hmmm? Just askin'.

Because all criticism of the President isn't called racism, moron. The only people that spew that nonsense are the same sort who try to justify their silence on actual racism by torturing the fuck out of "free speech".

There's honest criticism, such as the article I posted today regarding the President declaring that White House e-mails are exempt from FOIA requests, and then there's BusyDummy posting doctored photographs of President Obama as a witch doctor with a bone in his nose while the usual suspects giggle like schoolgirls.

Even you can surely see the difference.

 

[BotanyBoy]

*laughing* That's your "evidence", tubby?

Criticism of Israeli government policy is now "anti-Semitism"?

I'd expect that sort of bullshit from Tzipi Bitchtits or miles or Dazzle.

Vette doesn't yet realize that not kissing Israels ass all the time every time isn't the same as antisemitism.

Well if we have to endure the accusations of the left that criticism of Barack Obama is racism, why isn't criticism of Israel anti-Semitism, Hmmm? Just askin'.

If criticisms of NedenYahoo = hatred of jews then your criticism of B. Obama = hatred of Americans.....

I fully expect you to either ignore this or respond to it with some totally unrelated shit about freedumb fries.

 

[ishtat]

Although there is a strong emotional attachment between Americans and Israel, I think that Israel's importance to America's fundamental national interest is beginning to wane.

Israel kills a few Palestinians from time to time and vice versa which stirs up the 'shock horror' brigade but there is not much of fundamental importance that Israel influences in America's interest these days.

 

[miles]

Although there is a strong emotional attachment between Americans and Israel, I think that Israel's importance to America's fundamental national interest is beginning to wane.

Israel kills a few Palestinians from time to time and vice versa which stirs up the 'shock horror' brigade but there is not much of fundamental importance that Israel influences in America's interest these days.

You can say the same thing about any one of our allies. What's your point?

 

[RobDownSouth]

You can say the same thing about any one of our allies. What's your point?

The point is, you'll continue to make excuses for Israel.
(now say STFU Rob if hate America)

 

[miles]

There he is again, following me around Lit and posting right after me.

Dude - get a fucking grip on yourself. Collect stamps or coins. You desperately need a hobby.

 

[RobDownSouth]

There he is again, following me around Lit and posting right after me.

Dude - get a fucking grip on yourself. Collect stamps or coins. You desperately need a hobby.

And deny you the Eternal Jewish Victim status you so desperately crave?

It's a public message board, schmuck. I post when and where I like.
If you don't like what I have to say, put me on ignore.
....and then ask your therapist if there's some sort of medication available that will help you from compulsively pressing "View Post".

 

[miles]

Throb's lack of self-control fits right in with his other mental and physical deficiencies. What a loser.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Throb's lack of self-control fits right in with his other mental and physical deficiencies. What a loser.

Such a big brave boy behind his keyboard!

 

[miles]

Like a little lost puppy...

 

[RobDownSouth]

So very brave.....

 

[Wrong Element]

Although there is a strong emotional attachment between Americans and Israel, I think that Israel's importance to America's fundamental national interest is beginning to wane.

Israel kills a few Palestinians from time to time and vice versa which stirs up the 'shock horror' brigade but there is not much of fundamental importance that Israel influences in America's interest these days.

It's not just about national interest, because we do have other allies in the region. It's about Israel being a democracy founded (more or less) by recent European immigrants in the wake of genocide.

Netanyahu has spent a lot of time in the U.S., so you'd think he'd know better, or maybe he does know but in his desperation to survive politically just didn't care -- American support for Israel is substantially based on the belief that it is a place that broadly speaking shares our values. If it ceases to do that, a lot of Americans are going to begin wondering why it's worth the trouble.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Because in the real world they aren't remotely the same thing but lets break this down since after six years Republicans still don't fucking get it.

Criticism or Obama is not in and of itself racist, never has been, never will be. Feel free to criticize him. He has much to answer for. The accusations of racism stem from the unbridled hatred thrown at this president for things that every president does and we have spent years pointing out examples of things and asking where was the outrage then. It's the complete lack of respect, and the left wasn't always kind to Bush mind you but not like this.

It's the repeated attempts to tar Obama as something distinctly other than American. Born in Kenya and accusations of being a Muslim. The first made no difference legally and everybody knew it and the second shouldn't matter in a country that isn't a theocracy. But it was a distinct attempt to paint him as something different. It's also funny how quick Republicans are to point out that Obama isn't "Black" He's black, white and arab. Why do you even KNOW that in the first place? I get the half white part if you looked at his mother but why are you even digging deep enough to know about arabs and whatever else? We both know why.

And Republicans are far more likely to say "It's not because he's black it's because of 'x'" but 'x' is almost always ill defined because once pressed it's obvious that those accusations are at best half truths and you felt the need to cover your ass because your ass needed coverage. We could also point out some of the BS people attempt to prove they aren't, I get why you guys like Ben Carson, aside from being a bigot he's intelligent, well spoken, accomplished (the product of Affirmative Action and government aid and wants to pulle up the ladder behind him) largely on his own terms. He's a damn fine example of what the American Dream can be. But you trotted out Hermain Cain to say "Look guys, we have a black guy! He's a complete bufoon but we have one!" He's like the black Sarah Palin, chosen not for their merits but to be a complete token.

It's nobody's fault that Israel happens to be run by Jews however and nobody talks ill of the American Jewish population. . .actually scratch that. The Right constantly calls them fools for voting Democrat. Or any other Jewish population. There is a problem with Israel. By the by does that make Democrats Islamophobists as well since we all seem to agree that ISIS and Iran and several other countries, leaders and groups over there are evil as fuck?

Uh, no, shit for brains.

Obama's tease to America was him flashing reconciliation bits he had no intention of delivering. He's a nigger thug in the worst Chicago tradition.

 

[colddiesel]

You can say the same thing about any one of our allies. What's your point?

this is

 

[Sean Renaud]

You can say the same thing about any one of our allies. What's your point?

No, you really can't say the same thing about any one of allies for starters. And the point is there is a lot less reason to get all twisted into knots everytime they do. In the absolute worst case scenario the world won't end if they do.

 

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[Ulaven_Demorte]

It is for many, asshole. Zumi leading the charge here.

Bullshit and you know it, coward.

There are any number of areas where criticism of the President is decidedly NOT about his policies or actions but about trying to depict him as "other". Insisting that he's a secret Muslim from Kenya with no birth certificate for one.

Where did you land on the "Birther" issue?

Then there's the very obvious racist attacks, like the aforementioned depictions of the President as a witchdoctor complete with spear and bone nose piercing.

Then the really obvious but less widespread:
Carson, California, a right wing politician after losing his election tweeted of Obama, "Assassinate the fuckin nigger and his monkey children." Not sure, but maybe that's racist.

East Hampton, NY: 63-year-old Lawrence Nickel was arrested and charged with a four-month anti-Obama graffiti spree. Amongst the elderly man's other tags was this one, scrawled on a bench: "Obama is a lying nigger." I'm going to go with racist here too.

Using the Clint Eastwood bit as a launching pad, "chair lynchings" became a minor trend. Chastised for the racial connotations of stringing up a black man's effigy in his front yard, one Texas man replied, "I don't really give a damn whether it disturbs you or not," Johnson reportedly told Haenschen. "You can take [your concerns] and go straight to hell and take Obama with you. I don't give a shit."
Survey says? Yup, definitely racist.

 

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[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Bullshit and you know it, coward.

There are any number of areas where criticism of the President is decidedly NOT about his policies or actions but about trying to depict him as "other". Insisting that he's a secret Muslim from Kenya with no birth certificate for one.

Where did you land on the "Birther" issue?

Then there's the very obvious racist attacks, like the aforementioned depictions of the President as a witchdoctor complete with spear and bone nose piercing.

Then the really obvious but less widespread:
Carson, California, a right wing politician after losing his election tweeted of Obama, "Assassinate the fuckin nigger and his monkey children." Not sure, but maybe that's racist.

East Hampton, NY: 63-year-old Lawrence Nickel was arrested and charged with a four-month anti-Obama graffiti spree. Amongst the elderly man's other tags was this one, scrawled on a bench: "Obama is a lying nigger." I'm going to go with racist here too.

Using the Clint Eastwood bit as a launching pad, "chair lynchings" became a minor trend. Chastised for the racial connotations of stringing up a black man's effigy in his front yard, one Texas man replied, "I don't really give a damn whether it disturbs you or not," Johnson reportedly told Haenschen. "You can take [your concerns] and go straight to hell and take Obama with you. I don't give a shit."
Survey says? Yup, definitely racist.

A tree is known by its fruit. Jesus of Nazareth.

Leave the heavy thinking to Vette.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

You lying assholes have spent years accusing Obama detractors of racism. It's the go to response to detailed criticism of Obama and his actions by your intolerant left.

When those attacks are indeed racist, yes.

ACTUAL beefs with the President's actions and policies have not been.
I notice you not only avoided the birther question, but edited it out of your quote of my post entirely. We both know why.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Voting is outta Obama's job description. So he's talking out his ass...again.