With Trump, Senate RINOs & Dems now all on board the pathway to citizenship train...

[WoundedKnee]

Hey, didn't you get the memo from BotanyBoy and others. It's not PC to refer to the Stable Genius and his Repugnican base as Nazis.

After all, they ditched the white hoods and wear golf shirts now.

Democrats claim that Adolf Hitler is the most successful politician in American history, having been elected president in 1968, 1972, 1980, 1984, 1988, 2000, 2004, and 2016.

Daniel G. Jones

 

[coati]

Democrats claim that Adolf Hitler is the most successful politician in American history, having been elected president in 1968, 1972, 1980, 1984, 1988, 2000, 2004, and 2016.

Daniel G. Jones

Nahhhh.

Your Stable Genius is the only one who said neo Nazi demonstrators in Charlottesville included some very fine people. He is the only one who was reluctant to disavow the support of the white supremacist groups.

And to the Boy's comment, Carnal Flower simply recognizes how far off the charts your Stable Genius has gone. [cue the Boy to state he does not support any R or D, he is immune to charges of racism, he was born with a teflon coating, etc]

 

[Rightguide]

Those without merit wouldn't qualify and aren't part of the conversation. I'm guessing this means you have no objection to those who do qualify.

If they were brought here as children they can get on the 10 to 20 year pathway. Deport everyone else who came in illegally.

 

[cowslinger64]

Really? What would the criteria be? Who chooses?

Can that be applied to those that are already citizens? Perhaps having it revoked of they no longer qualify?

Big surprise.. Not a peep from qbert or vette...

What about you AJ? You seem to have a lot to say..

 

[WoundedKnee]

He's not mine in any way. I'm not a voter. I'm not a hater. Haters get hung up on phrases like "Stable Genius." I wish, fervently, that you and hypoxia and a few of the others could calm down and make cogent and rational points. Being bat-guano crazy did not win you the last election, now did it?

 

[BobBalouski]

I recall back in the dinosaur days when the introduction of homosexual "civil unions" discussion first began in the legislature of CA; it was immediately countered with the charge that "civil unions" was nothing but an intentional disingenuous cover to eventually snowball-in completely-equal-with-traditional-marriage, same-sex marriage. Oh, the "civil unions" champs insisted in public that was ALL they were interested in getting legislated, but they were flat-out lying as greatly as the very best of jihadi taqiyyahers (liars), as their eventually exposed behind closed doors strategic aims proved. "civil-unions" was simply a Trojan Horse, a wedge to open the legislative door to what they most definitely were working toward.

This entire so-called Dreamer deal is from the same, exact, socialist playbook: remember, at first all they and their champions wanted was a chance to stay in the only home they'd really ever known, they said, all they wanted was that chance. Then, that turned into outright demanding a place at the American table, which then turned into insisting that, hey, after all, they are just as American as any other American is.

This current Trump/RINO Dreamer deal covers at least 1.8 Million Dreamers themselves AND their parents and siblings; add together just those immediate family numbers and we're now talking about more people than the populations of 13 individual American states! And now that many of them are now virtually certain they are here to stay, they continue even more loudly to insist that they are just as much citizens as any other American - and why shouldn't they be able to invite all the family members they want to come live with them when every other American citizen has that right!?

Of course, just like the socialist charade of "civil unions", the actual push of the Dreamers and all their champions is TOTAL socialist EQUALITY, no matter how delusional that is.

There exists already in the reality of the jurisdiction of the United States of America two constitutional classes of citizens: natural born and naturalized, and natural born American citizens ONLY are legally permitted to ever become the top dog of the American political system. Of course, that constitutional INEQUALITY hasn't really been any degree of troublesome issue in the entire history of Americana - up until now.

Trump and RINOs are as utopian as their statist kin, the Dreamers and Dems who are now celebrating those bozos coming so far over to their socialist side by declaring Trump's and RINO's Dreamer proposal "white supremacy" against people of color who are just as American as any other American is.

I won't be surprised when the very next Amendment to the Constitution will be ratified to strike-out Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 to specifically permit any American "citizen", yea even "resident", to become President. And thus the very reason for Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 will finally be totally defeated. No? Even as I was typing that I easily heard gaggles of GB progressives offer: So, what's wrong with that?

 

[Hypoxia]

I guess you don't support Arnold Schwarzenegger for president.

 

[WoundedKnee]

The only thing that he can do is move to the center to get this passed. The hardline, hell no they must go, caucus will only result in nothing getting done, open borders, more illegal immigration and will give the Democrats all the ammunition they need to take over the government and do to us that which they did when it came to health care when it comes to their version of amnesty.

 

[bellisarius]

The only thing that he can do is move to the center to get this passed. The hardline, hell no they must go, caucus will only result in nothing getting done, open borders, more illegal immigration and will give the Democrats all the ammunition they need to take over the government and do to us that which they did when it came to health care when it comes to their version of amnesty.

Exactly, it's a small price to pay to get the rest of the package through. It's helpful that the democrats made the DACA crowd the centerpiece of their resistance. If they get what they want there then try to move the goalposts they're going to look really bad.

 

[FGB]

I was listening to some right wing radio (no I don't know which one it was on Sirius XM) and they were foaming at the mouth mad at Trump for even attempting to make a deal to settle this"Dreamer" situation once and for all.

Totally unreasonable,no compassionate and sounding as un USA as the extreme left wingers!

While I can understand the point of view of people that have obtained citizenship through the proper channels, part of what has made this country stand out from the rest is some compassion for people that find themselves legally between a rock and a hard place through no fault of their own.

I find that (at least so far) that Trump and myself have somewhere close to the same thinking about this. I inquired around at work over the last week or so and even the strongly conservative think that as long as some rules and regulations are set down to handle situations like this and they are indeed good citizens in deed if not in name,a accommodations should be made.

In fact the whole immigration system should be revamped...maybe not exactly asp per Trump Ideals but the work needs to be started and Congress should get off their asses and crank out some Bills to be considered.

As for securing the borders well, If we don't the next people running this place will for damned sure!

 

[coati]

He's not mine in any way. I'm not a voter. I'm not a hater. Haters get hung up on phrases like "Stable Genius." I wish, fervently, that you and hypoxia and a few of the others could calm down and make cogent and rational points. Being bat-guano crazy did not win you the last election, now did it?

No, actually it allowed the Stable Genius to win the last election. And since you don't vote, you can conveniently sidestep accountability for his campaign tactics.

And by the way, I did not come up with the description of the current president as a stable genius. That came from the hater-in-chief.

 

[coati]

I was listening to some right wing radio (no I don't know which one it was on Sirius XM) and they were foaming at the mouth mad at Trump for even attempting to make a deal to settle this"Dreamer" situation once and for all.

Totally unreasonable,no compassionate and sounding as un USA as the extreme left wingers!

While I can understand the point of view of people that have obtained citizenship through the proper channels, part of what has made this country stand out from the rest is some compassion for people that find themselves legally between a rock and a hard place through no fault of their own.

I find that (at least so far) that Trump and myself have somewhere close to the same thinking about this. I inquired around at work over the last week or so and even the strongly conservative think that as long as some rules and regulations are set down to handle situations like this and they are indeed good citizens in deed if not in name,a accommodations should be made.

In fact the whole immigration system should be revamped...maybe not exactly asp per Trump Ideals but the work needs to be started and Congress should get off their asses and crank out some Bills to be considered.

As for securing the borders well, If we don't the next people running this place will for damned sure!

Sounds like something bipartisan representatives have been saying for a long time. The devil has been in the details and with the bomb-throwers who get elected on platforms of fear and ignorance.