Woman preys upon women

All very lovey-dovey. No n/c. You have reduced the sense of 'predatory' to merely 'horny'.

Hell's teeth... it's so difficult to get people to address the stipulated subject on here.

Well, it seems you're rather after confirmation of your very specific violent rape fantasies. Then say so, or don't fret and go and write, and if the results too heavily rapey for here, there's other places that it could go.

But, as for non-con and, say, the scenario I offered above... Yes, it can as well be or look like pretty lovely-dovely for an unassuming observer. But can go very different very easily on the inside, and did at times. It's plenty non-con; to enumerate:

  • She expect going to cultured city beach in a group of girls, instead she's taken one-on-one with this woman to a secluded place in the wilderness; she wouldn't approve of that beforehand.
  • She didn't expect skinny dipping and would have turned such idea down immediately. Instead, while she may or may not be physically stripped out of her clothes or swimsuit, she ends up naked against her will.
  • She's assaulted by sexual advances in the progression of what still seemed fairly tame situation. She may or may not expect such by then, but the other girl isn't taking a no at that point. This where it can really go violent if you prefer a hard rape.
  • She's exposed to a strange man without her consent or even knowledge, willingly and knowingly by the predator. This is mostly mindfuck, because one can say that looks don't kill or even "what she doesn't know, can't hurt her," but it could as well be worst of all as it's totally out of her control and very blatant violation of her trust into the predatory partner. Besides, there's now a witness to her surrender to the predator.
 
Well, it seems you're rather after confirmation of your very specific violent rape fantasies. Then say so, or don't fret and go and write, and if the results too heavily rapey for here, there's other places that it could go.

But, as for non-con and, say, the scenario I offered above... Yes, it can as well be or look like pretty lovely-dovely for an unassuming observer. But can go very different very easily on the inside, and did at times. It's plenty non-con; to enumerate:

  • She expect going to cultured city beach in a group of girls, instead she's taken one-on-one with this woman to a secluded place in the wilderness; she wouldn't approve of that beforehand.
  • She didn't expect skinny dipping and would have turned such idea down immediately. Instead, while she may or may not be physically stripped out of her clothes or swimsuit, she ends up naked against her will.
  • She's assaulted by sexual advances in the progression of what still seemed fairly tame situation. She may or may not expect such by then, but the other girl isn't taking a no at that point. This where it can really go violent if you prefer a hard rape.
  • She's exposed to a strange man without her consent or even knowledge, willingly and knowingly by the predator. This is mostly mindfuck, because one can say that looks don't kill or even "what she doesn't know, can't hurt her," but it could as well be worst of all as it's totally out of her control and very blatant violation of her trust into the predatory partner. Besides, there's now a witness to her surrender to the predator.

Not sure what "lovely-dovely" means but I can't see any of what you've suggested as non-con. In your scenario, the act is gone along with.

N/c is an absolute, as the feminists keep telling us. 'No!' means no, 'Maybe', doesn't.

I sympathise with the OP about the almost wilful avoidance of the stated topic on Lit. threads. It happens all the time, with people treating any thread as if they owned it rather than the OP. Checking back, I see he even underlined the N/c and asked for ideas on that basis.

Peaches and apples are both fruit, but if you went on a gardening forum asking for advice on peach growing, how would you feel about people hi-jacking the thread to strut their stuff about apple cultivation, eh?
 
How about a law firm? The senior partner is a mature and very horny (and very lesbian) woman, and female associates (non-partners) have to serve her whims if they ever hope to make partner.

I suppose it could also apply to female non-tenured faculty members with a horny lesbian department head if they ever want to make tenure. You could make it a Woman's Studies department if you want a layer of irony.
 
Looking for ideas as regards settings/characters to feed into an N/C story about a lesbian sexual predator.
As a (very) mature woman, in a monogamist marriage, I find the (story) idea of being manipulated, perhaps even a bit coerced into a first ever tryst with another woman peculiarly erotic. If well written, I suspect it would resonate with the more conservative members of this community to fuel desire for a sequel. In my mind the "targeted" woman would be quite conflicted between her rather conservative and decidedly traditional mores and the angst of reality that men, even her husband no longer view her as sexually desirable. In the culture of my youth, we were relentlessly conditioned, however wrongly, to equate some measure of our self-esteem to what others thought of our physical aspect.
 
"A bit coerced into a tryst"..?

Anyway, back to N/C. I've had a mere couple of people PM me and address the actual highlighted issue of an N/C lesbian predator, for which many thanks. I tend to get vibes that people aren't willing to speak "in public" to this matter for fear of attracting some label... which I find odd when all of this is actually pure imagination. Any further comments or suggestions, even via the PM route, are welcome.
 
What might make an interesting NC Lesbian story would involve an older lesbian Liberian around 50 who developed a serious girl crush on her 20 year old collage coed assistant. She mistakes her friendly attitude as flirting and to make matters more interesting she always wears skirts that are way to short for the Library’s strict dress code.The older woman is convinced that she’s a tease and is deliberately egging her. When she finally gets her alone she soon discovered that the young sexy girl isn’t into other women, at first she gently rejects her unwanted advances but soon finds herself fighting her off. The young coed makes an attempt to flee but is soon wrestled to the ground.
What do you think?
 
I think it's good apart from the fact that you've unnecessarily Americanised it with collage(?) "coeds" and Africanised it with people from Liberia... which I find just "to" funny.

Seriously, it is good although I still would go for a lesbian who had more of an industrial scale attitude to this and needed to "score" frequently - a serial hobbyist, in other words. A true predator, as per the OP.

A university campus library would certainly be a good background.

I have it in mind to write this from the prey's viewpoint but am finding it hard to work in enough explanatory detail about the predator. Maybe I'll just go back to the third-party narrative.
 
It would be interesting to know whether your "true predator" has ever had any foundation in reality. I can imagine a group of lesbians going out on the prowl but a lone wolf would have to be something pretty special in terms of physique and ability to plan. I suspect most lesbian sex outside of relationships tends to be casual and even spur-of-the-moment.

A quirky and interesting concept, though.
 
I had some idea I'm not sure I'd ever get round to about some 18 year old girl who on the surface seems extremely naive and innocent but goes around coercing MILFs into sex by getting them into compromising positions or digging up (or even planting) some blackmail martial to persuade them into sex with her.
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Yeah, I guess I was thinking more in terms of the WIP trope in soft/hard porn/erotica.

Orange is the New Black is based on a true account and not (intentionally) geared towards the erotic and is often quite gritty.

Just thinking about it, I guess you could do a women-in-prison story with the lesbian predator as the protagonist instead of the young innocent newbie inmate, which shows that you could do something new with the genre.

However, the OP doesn't seem interested in that.
Prison stories are difficult for me to read or even watch. That's just me. Make it about concentration camps/prisons and I'm out of there. I recently read one of my wife's James Patterson books titled Guilty Wives, and I almost quit reading it when over half of the book took place in a French Prison. It was brutal and several notches beyond gritty.

Now blackmail, in my mind, seems to work well for sexual predators. Rather than the victim beginning to like it, my preference is maybe a slow burn revenge angle. Tables turned. Maybe the lesbian predator only preys on prominent, well established women after she discovers the prominent woman is still in the closet and publicity about her sexual preference would ruin her standing in society. Of course, she could also 'like' it while plotting her revenge.
 
A few random thoughts. A true predator - their focus is solely on prey. Everything else goes into survival / Maslow lower hierarchy needs. So prison - sure. Or if not she wouldn't be sedentary - stuck in a job for example. Besides too easy to get caught. No, I'm figuring she's mobile - works a while and moves on perhaps? In this category hotel staff comes to mind - wait staff - warehouse work perhaps? Hotel staff probably works the best here. Or she's a trucker. Why not? Moves around a lot, there's either hitchhikers, sex workers, other travelers. With the wonderful world of wifi she can set up meets anywhere on her various routes. Plus she'd probably have a sleeper cab. Maybe she's got a helper - someone she picked up earlier that likes being her full time submissive. Younger probably - maybe had been a sex worker and feels an obligation to her 'rescuer' - helps to assure other prey that things will be fine.
 
A few random thoughts. A true predator - their focus is solely on prey. Everything else goes into survival / Maslow lower hierarchy needs. So prison - sure. Or if not she wouldn't be sedentary - stuck in a job for example. Besides too easy to get caught. No, I'm figuring she's mobile - works a while and moves on perhaps? In this category hotel staff comes to mind - wait staff - warehouse work perhaps? Hotel staff probably works the best here. Or she's a trucker. Why not? Moves around a lot, there's either hitchhikers, sex workers, other travelers. With the wonderful world of wifi she can set up meets anywhere on her various routes. Plus she'd probably have a sleeper cab. Maybe she's got a helper - someone she picked up earlier that likes being her full time submissive. Younger probably - maybe had been a sex worker and feels an obligation to her 'rescuer' - helps to assure other prey that things will be fine.

Many good thoughts there. I'm tending towards an older woman, maybe 40s/50s, who knows that her looks nowadays wouldn't be up to attracting the younger women she mostly craves, even if they were inclined to try girl-girl. Possibly she works out at the gym to build muscle and, even if married, has some regular opportunity time-wise to evade husband which allows her to plan.

She also needs a setting in which she might come into regular contact with her prey... so I'm attracted to the Uni librarian idea mentioned earlier in the thread. A hospital/school setting where there are plenty of younger nurses/teachers also a possibility. Outside of a work setting, there's also the simple one of Friday or Saturday night bars/hotels.

Perhaps, the thought occurs, a vehicle could play a part in proceedings.
 
Many good thoughts there. I'm tending towards an older woman, maybe 40s/50s, who knows that her looks nowadays wouldn't be up to attracting the younger women she mostly craves, even if they were inclined to try girl-girl. Possibly she works out at the gym to build muscle and, even if married, has some regular opportunity time-wise to evade husband which allows her to plan.

She also needs a setting in which she might come into regular contact with her prey... so I'm attracted to the Uni librarian idea mentioned earlier in the thread. A hospital/school setting where there are plenty of younger nurses/teachers also a possibility. Outside of a work setting, there's also the simple one of Friday or Saturday night bars/hotels.

Perhaps, the thought occurs, a vehicle could play a part in proceedings.
I like the hospital/nurses setting. Also emergency medical workers, I'm told are a hot-bed for extra-curricular activities.
 
Has anyone suggested a female gym trainer? Good for meeting a lot of eligible women although I can't quite work out the possibilities beyond that.
 
https://www.literotica.com/s/grace-breaks-caitlin
Here's a lesbian rape story I wrote a whole series about. I should make a note that this chapter has a gangbang sequence but most of the stuff that follows in later chapters is lesbian domination. Maybe you can get some ideas or at least a kick out of it. Feel free to pm me, I'd love to talk more about this.

Are there 'chapters' before this which laid out everything? Backstories for the characters? Reasons why things are happening? Setting of the scene?

Somehow I doubt it.

There appears to be zero effort to convince the reader that this could be actually happening or true. It's all a universe which the reader has no connection with. Oh yes and... where's the actual story?

In other words, this is a classic 'rush-to-the-fuck' thing... but of course, by the same token, absolutely standard, par-for-the-course Lit. stuff...
 
Many good thoughts there. I'm tending towards an older woman, maybe 40s/50s, who knows that her looks nowadays wouldn't be up to attracting the younger women she mostly craves, even if they were inclined to try girl-girl. Possibly she works out at the gym to build muscle and, even if married, has some regular opportunity time-wise to evade husband which allows her to plan.

She also needs a setting in which she might come into regular contact with her prey... so I'm attracted to the Uni librarian idea mentioned earlier in the thread. A hospital/school setting where there are plenty of younger nurses/teachers also a possibility. Outside of a work setting, there's also the simple one of Friday or Saturday night bars/hotels.

Perhaps, the thought occurs, a vehicle could play a part in proceedings.
A few more thoughts. A woman in her 40's to 50's might be the perfect one to attract a vulnerable younger female. Humans have this innate pull to more mature/leveled persons. Might be more a draw than not.

A uni librarian? Oh perfect. The person who is so far into the background that they'd never come to mind. Trusted. Usually thought of as conservative - in dress, in behavior etc. Who we all obey when they say 'SHHHHH". I like that idea.

To me though a librarian is someone who has a CV, hence a trail. Why I thought someone in a market place where it's easier to hide. Keeps bringing me to a service industry where turnover is a constant.
 
Develop the predator woman as a flight attendant, doing long haul international flights.

<can anyone tell I’m traveling today>
 
Well, that's your personal take on it but it actually doesn't run foul of Lit. rules.

I guess Life's rich pageant means there are a thousand views as to what constitutes "gross", not just yours.
 
Well, that's your personal take on it but it actually doesn't run foul of Lit. rules.
Dark is likely referencing a rejection thread a while back where a less titillating scenario was rejected. Yes, that needle can be thread but a number of overconfident authors were sure they had when they had not.

Always best to not speak in absolutes with Lit rules, either allowable or objectionable. Spirit of the rules are written down but the final interpretation of the bounds of those rules rest with one person.
 
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