You won’t like this….just sayin’

[ADIDAS00]

Plus, they got whipped by the Vietnamese!

On the other hand, if Donald Trump sets the USA on a course of decline, with trade networks shifting away, fewer immigrants to work on construction sites or farms (immigrant workers) or bring their talents to universities and corporations (immigrant scientists and businessmen), ballooning government debt, an unstable currency (fire the fed chairman!), fossil fuels instead of clean energy, a shrinking population, deteriorating quality of life (the US is about to lose its status as being a place where measles has been eradicated), increasing wealth inequality, increasing ineptitude of the government bureaucracy (head of the Bureau of Labour Statistics fired for reporting statistics that displeased the Dear Orange Leader) . . .

. . . then China will take over leadership of the planet by default.

I just don’t see it happening any time soon. Sure, our government does a terrible job of managing things, both democrat and republican. But even then, it’ll take a while for things to change. Everything is based off the dollar and that big ship will take a long time to sink.

 

[Rightguide]

The secret police are kidnapping people and shooting them dead in the street. You can help with documenting ICE’s crimes and vilifying and shaming them. They can’t shoot all of us.

Stop with the nonsense. The Communist insurrection has been exposed. Walz and Frey are kissing ass to try to stay out of prison. Now city cops are cracking skulls.

 

[Rotadom]

Stop with the nonsense. The Communist insurrection has been exposed. Walz and Frey are kissing ass to try to stay out of prison. Now city cops are cracking skulls.

ICE hasn't arrested anyone for fraud since this invasion but they've murdered two of your fellow citizens. . You are way too old to be this dumb.

 

[Hel_Books]

I just don’t see it happening any time soon. Sure, our government does a terrible job of managing things, both democrat and republican. But even then, it’ll take a while for things to change. Everything is based off the dollar and that big ship will take a long time to sink.

But big ships take a long time to change direction. If you're on the wrong course now, you could be on the wrong course for a long time going forward.

 

[PersonalFavors]

ICE hasn't arrested anyone for fraud since this invasion but they've murdered two of your fellow citizens. . You are way too old to be this dumb.

Those were not fellow citizens. Those were radicals taking advantage of the liberal hijacking of government sanity. They made their point. Nobody listened. Won't even be a foot note in history. We are deporting illegal aliens.

 

[Wilson23]

Stop with the nonsense. The Communist insurrection has been exposed.

NOTHING has been exposed that would make it an insurrection, or Communist.

 

[Wilson23]

Those were not fellow citizens. Those were radicals

MAGAts are the only RADICALS in this story, you idiot!

 

[Wilson23]

They made their point. Nobody listened. Won't even be a foot note in history.

Historians will write VOLUMES about this. The Good and Pretti shootings alone will merit three doorstoppers each.

 

[Rotadom]

Those were not fellow citizens. Those were radicals taking advantage of the liberal hijacking of government sanity. They made their point. Nobody listened. Won't even be a foot note in history. We are deporting illegal aliens.

Oh, another joins the MAGAt circus.

 

[PersonalFavors]

Oh, another joins the MAGAt circus.

So what point were they trying to make? That they can impede ICE agents? I never heard anything they said. Are you trying to make a point? Or is this a vent for your your all consuming TDS? When politics should have nothing to do with this. Obama ICE'd more than have been in this term.

 

[Rotadom]

So what point were they trying to make? That they can impede ICE agents? I never heard anything they said. Are you trying to make a point? Or is this a vent for your your all consuming TDS? When politics should have nothing to do with this. Obama ICE'd more than have been in this term.

They were lawfully protesting and did a whole lot less than Ashli Babbit, . They attacked an innocent man who was helping the woman they unlawfully attacked.

Hope this helps but doubt it will.

 

[PersonalFavors]

They were lawfully protesting and did a whole lot less than Ashli Babbit, . They attacked an innocent man who was helping the woman they unlawfully attacked.

Hope this helps but doubt it will.

They were not lawfully protesting. Start there.

 

[Wilson23]

They were not lawfully protesting. Start there.

How not?

 

[PersonalFavors]

How not?

Which part is confusing to you? Which time for pretti? When he spit on the officer who was ignoring him and then pretti kicked the tail light out of the truck? Or a week later when he was trying to pull a protester from off the street onto the street they were just pepper sprayed and told to get off? He would not have died if he did not have a gun while confronting officers. Looks even more like he got off on pissing people off. Fucked up and found out.
I'm more interested in contemplating what his last thoughts were. I doubt his life flashed before his eyes. Ow! How fucked up is this? hahaha Wonder if he felt his shit fill his pants. Whatever. He either intended to be dead or at that last second had a chance to contemplate how stupid his actions were. Just stupid.

The illegals are being deported.

 

[Wilson23]

Which part is confusing to you? Which time for pretti? When he spit on the officer who was ignoring him and then pretti kicked the tail light out of the truck? Or a week later when he was trying to pull a protester from off the street onto the street they were just pepper sprayed and told to get off? He would not have died if he did not have a gun while confronting officers. Looks even more like he got off on pissing people off. Fucked up and found out.
I'm more interested in contemplating what his last thoughts were. I doubt his life flashed before his eyes. Ow! How fucked up is this? hahaha Wonder if he felt his shit fill his pants. Whatever. He either intended to be dead or at that last second had a chance to contemplate how stupid his actions were. Just stupid.

The illegals are being deported.

That never happened.

This is what happened:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Alex_Pretti#Shooting
Alex Pretti was shot multiple times by Border Patrol agents near the intersection of 26th Street and Nicollet Avenue in the Whittier neighborhood[49] of Minneapolis.[26][32] A few moments before the shooting, a witness stated that ICE agents were attempting to enter a donut shop.[50] A person they were pursuing had run into the shop, after which the employees of the shop locked the doors.[51] Pretti, who was across the street, was observing and attempting to direct traffic.[51]

Videos of the incident showed Pretti recording agents alongside two civilians[44] when two agents walked out into the street to confront them.[51] Twenty-eight seconds before the first shot was fired, one agent pushed a civilian wearing an orange backpack.[44] Pretti moved toward the sidewalk, attempting to help the two other people being pushed by agents. Pretti stood between the agent and a woman being pushed, "briefly putting his hand on the agent's waist", and was pepper-sprayed by the agent.[52][53] Pretti then held up his hands, with one hand holding his phone and the other hand held up to protect himself from being maced.[52] Pretti then reached to wrap his arms around the fallen woman, who had just been shoved, "apparently trying to help her up".[52] An agent then shoved Pretti, and Pretti and the woman fell, still embracing.[54][4]

According to The New York Times, Pretti then "trie[d] to pull away, and ... [made] no threatening movements towards the agents", but "agents pull[ed] him backwards and force[d] him to the ground."[52] Pretti was then restrained by several agents on the ground, with both of his arms "pinned down by his head".[52] The agent that pepper-sprayed Pretti then hit him with the pepper spray canister multiple times.[52][10] Another agent in gray then removed Pretti's firearm from his hip.[52][55] A third agent, who had been focused on trying to pepper-spray the fallen woman and had his back to Pretti, turned around to Pretti after hearing someone yell that Pretti had a gun.[52] Around five seconds after hearing that Pretti had a gun, this third agent drew his weapon and shot Pretti at close range, with his arm visibly recoiling in recordings of the event.[52] When the first shot was fired, Pretti's gun had already been removed by the agent in gray, and the shooter was "standing behind Pretti and not under direct threat, contradicting statements from Homeland Security officials that he fired defensive shots".[52] The shooter also had the sightline to see that the agent in gray had removed the gun, but it is unknown whether he witnessed the removal.[52] The shooter then fired three more shots into the back of Pretti, who appeared "to brace himself against the pavement" with one hand still holding his phone and his other hand holding his glasses.[52] Pretti collapsed to the ground, and the agent that pepper-sprayed Pretti then took out his gun. He along with the first shooter fired six more shots at Pretti as he lay motionless on the ground.[52] The two agents fired 10 shots in five seconds.[52][26][56] According to analysis by The New York Times, agents yelled that Pretti had a gun approximately eight seconds after he had been pinned to the ground.[14]

The Department of Homeland Security said that Pretti approached Border Patrol officers with a handgun, and an agent sprayed mace before firing defensive shots after attempting to disarm him.[32][30] Video of the incident showed Pretti's phone in his right hand and nothing in his left hand.[14][57] In a sworn testimony, two witnesses to the killing said that Pretti did not brandish a gun,[56] and a frame-by-frame analysis of video from the event by the BBC reached the same conclusion.[58] Multiple videos showed a federal agent pulling a gun from the scuffle matching the description later given by DHS, followed by two other federal agents using their guns to shoot Pretti.[14][57][10] According to The Wall Street Journal: "A frame-by-frame review [...] shows a federal officer pulling a handgun away from Pretti. Less than a second later, an agent fires several rounds."[8]

After shots were fired, the officers backed away from Pretti's body, where they remained distanced for about 45 seconds.[59] When the agents returned to the body, one agent kneeled next to Pretti's body and asked where the gun is.[52] A physician who was present before emergency medical services arrived was initially prevented from assessing Pretti's condition by immigration agents because they were not carrying their physician's license. The physician later stated in a court filing that the officers appeared to be counting bullet holes rather than providing first aid, and Pretti had not been placed in the position to provide CPR.[18] When the physician was eventually allowed access, they observed at least three bullet wounds in Pretti's back, one in the upper-left chest, and one possible bullet wound to the neck.[60] The physician provided CPR until the emergency medics arrived and took over,[18] and they made a sworn affidavit later the same day.[56][60]

DHS stated that medics rendered aid to Pretti and that he died at the scene.[61][62] United States Border Patrol on-site commander Gregory Bovino said an officer who shot Pretti had been serving with the Border Patrol for eight years and had "extensive training as a Range Safety Officer".[32][63]

Bovino reported that as of January 25, 2026, all agents present at the scene of the shooting were still on the job, though they had been placed on administrative duty and/or relocated out of Minneapolis for the officers' safety.[64][65] Bovino added that the involved "Border Patrol agents are going to more than likely be on administrative duty, but they will remain Border Patrol agents".[66]

 

[PersonalFavors]

That never happened.

This is what happened:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Alex_Pretti#Shooting
Alex Pretti was shot multiple times by Border Patrol agents near the intersection of 26th Street and Nicollet Avenue in the Whittier neighborhood[49] of Minneapolis.[26][32] A few moments before the shooting, a witness stated that ICE agents were attempting to enter a donut shop.[50] A person they were pursuing had run into the shop, after which the employees of the shop locked the doors.[51] Pretti, who was across the street, was observing and attempting to direct traffic.[51]

Videos of the incident showed Pretti recording agents alongside two civilians[44] when two agents walked out into the street to confront them.[51] Twenty-eight seconds before the first shot was fired, one agent pushed a civilian wearing an orange backpack.[44] Pretti moved toward the sidewalk, attempting to help the two other people being pushed by agents. Pretti stood between the agent and a woman being pushed, "briefly putting his hand on the agent's waist", and was pepper-sprayed by the agent.[52][53] Pretti then held up his hands, with one hand holding his phone and the other hand held up to protect himself from being maced.[52] Pretti then reached to wrap his arms around the fallen woman, who had just been shoved, "apparently trying to help her up".[52] An agent then shoved Pretti, and Pretti and the woman fell, still embracing.[54][4]

According to The New York Times, Pretti then "trie[d] to pull away, and ... [made] no threatening movements towards the agents", but "agents pull[ed] him backwards and force[d] him to the ground."[52] Pretti was then restrained by several agents on the ground, with both of his arms "pinned down by his head".[52] The agent that pepper-sprayed Pretti then hit him with the pepper spray canister multiple times.[52][10] Another agent in gray then removed Pretti's firearm from his hip.[52][55] A third agent, who had been focused on trying to pepper-spray the fallen woman and had his back to Pretti, turned around to Pretti after hearing someone yell that Pretti had a gun.[52] Around five seconds after hearing that Pretti had a gun, this third agent drew his weapon and shot Pretti at close range, with his arm visibly recoiling in recordings of the event.[52] When the first shot was fired, Pretti's gun had already been removed by the agent in gray, and the shooter was "standing behind Pretti and not under direct threat, contradicting statements from Homeland Security officials that he fired defensive shots".[52] The shooter also had the sightline to see that the agent in gray had removed the gun, but it is unknown whether he witnessed the removal.[52] The shooter then fired three more shots into the back of Pretti, who appeared "to brace himself against the pavement" with one hand still holding his phone and his other hand holding his glasses.[52] Pretti collapsed to the ground, and the agent that pepper-sprayed Pretti then took out his gun. He along with the first shooter fired six more shots at Pretti as he lay motionless on the ground.[52] The two agents fired 10 shots in five seconds.[52][26][56] According to analysis by The New York Times, agents yelled that Pretti had a gun approximately eight seconds after he had been pinned to the ground.[14]

The Department of Homeland Security said that Pretti approached Border Patrol officers with a handgun, and an agent sprayed mace before firing defensive shots after attempting to disarm him.[32][30] Video of the incident showed Pretti's phone in his right hand and nothing in his left hand.[14][57] In a sworn testimony, two witnesses to the killing said that Pretti did not brandish a gun,[56] and a frame-by-frame analysis of video from the event by the BBC reached the same conclusion.[58] Multiple videos showed a federal agent pulling a gun from the scuffle matching the description later given by DHS, followed by two other federal agents using their guns to shoot Pretti.[14][57][10] According to The Wall Street Journal: "A frame-by-frame review [...] shows a federal officer pulling a handgun away from Pretti. Less than a second later, an agent fires several rounds."[8]

After shots were fired, the officers backed away from Pretti's body, where they remained distanced for about 45 seconds.[59] When the agents returned to the body, one agent kneeled next to Pretti's body and asked where the gun is.[52] A physician who was present before emergency medical services arrived was initially prevented from assessing Pretti's condition by immigration agents because they were not carrying their physician's license. The physician later stated in a court filing that the officers appeared to be counting bullet holes rather than providing first aid, and Pretti had not been placed in the position to provide CPR.[18] When the physician was eventually allowed access, they observed at least three bullet wounds in Pretti's back, one in the upper-left chest, and one possible bullet wound to the neck.[60] The physician provided CPR until the emergency medics arrived and took over,[18] and they made a sworn affidavit later the same day.[56][60]

DHS stated that medics rendered aid to Pretti and that he died at the scene.[61][62] United States Border Patrol on-site commander Gregory Bovino said an officer who shot Pretti had been serving with the Border Patrol for eight years and had "extensive training as a Range Safety Officer".[32][63]

Bovino reported that as of January 25, 2026, all agents present at the scene of the shooting were still on the job, though they had been placed on administrative duty and/or relocated out of Minneapolis for the officers' safety.[64][65] Bovino added that the involved "Border Patrol agents are going to more than likely be on administrative duty, but they will remain Border Patrol agents".[66]

heh heh heh
Quoting wikipedia
Sweet. Can't even find one of your liberal media's in spiral to back you up. Watch the videos. And not the ones started late and ended early. Sorry, can fix the parts where "something" may have happened and the phone was pointed up at the trees. None of us saw that part.
Otherwise, go ahead and speculate. It is not healthy. You should chill and quit trying to trump this stuff up. Let the law do its job. It will be over soon.

 

[Wilson23]

heh heh heh
Quoting wikipedia

There's no source more reliable, is there? Errors are corrected immediately.

 

[Rotadom]

They were not lawfully protesting. Start there.

Which law did they break?

 

[Wilson23]

It will be over soon.

2029 ain't soon ENOUGH!