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I don't agree. They are talking -45F wind chills at bus stop time in the morning. I don't care who you are and how smart you are that's just outright dangerous cold.

And that's before you consider the parents who can't afford to equip their children with cold weather gear adequate to the task.

No, the first priority of schools SHOULD BE child safety. This is 100% the correct decision. And your take is colder and more heartless than the weather.
I kindly and respectfully disagree. I'm not saying let the kids go out for recess, etc. But being outside for 30 seconds to go from a house to a car or bus, then into the school is not dangerous. I've never seen a single child at my kids school without a winter jacket, coat, gloves, boots and snow pants. I'm not heartless or cold. Thats quite an accusation for a simple post about negative temperatures. Which, again is nothing new for this part of the Country. I can recall temperatures as cold as -60 in the past. I simply believe we need to teach our kids and quite honestly, more adults to toughen up a bit and not run or panic at the first sign of adversity or difficulty. And it doesn't help that all the news just perpetuates it by using words like "catastrophically cold", "Life-threatening"....they just instill fear. Again, I'm not saying let's all go out in our shorts and t-shirts and have a BBQ, but it's simple. Dress warm, stay inside, don't let the kids outside other than coming and going from school.
 
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But being outside for 30 seconds to go from a house to a car or bus, then into the school is not dangerous.

What about the kids who have to walk several blocks to reach the bus? Or who have to wait on city busses and their schedules to reach school? How, exactly, are you ensuring that kids are only outside for those thirty seconds, and not thirty minutes? Or more.

I've never seen a single child at my kids school without a winter jacket, coat, gloves, boots and snow pants.

That'a great for your kids' school. I live just down the street from a Milwaukee school that just distributed the proceeds of a winter clothing drive. Despite a record take, there was barely enough to meet needs. What if other schools had shortfalls?

You don't see poverty. That's awesome. Doesn't mean poverty doesn't exist. God I wish it did, but alas.

I simply believe we need to teach our kids and quite honestly, more adults to toughen up a bit and not run or panic at the first sign of adversity or difficulty. And it doesn't help that all the news just perpetuates it by using words like "catastrophically cold", "Life-threatening"....they just instill fear.

I don't disagree with your first sentiment, but then you go off the rails. Because this IS life threatening cold. Just last winter an adult woman died on a Milwaukee sidewalk because she fell and, despite being within feet of a bus stop, was out of sight. She froze to death right there on the pavement.

Part of learning how to be "tough" is learning to respect danger. This is dangerous. I work outside most of my day. I am going to be well prepared precisely because I know and respect the risk.

Also, there is something to be said for teaching children that sometimes discretion really is the better part of valor. If there is no meaningful need to put yourself in harm's way, why do so? That is simply bravado, and bravado is a terribly stupid reason to do anything.

It's not like they can't just make up the day later in the calender. What is being lost by erring on the side of safety?
 
What about the kids who have to walk several blocks to reach the bus? Or who have to wait on city busses and their schedules to reach school? How, exactly, are you ensuring that kids are only outside for those thirty seconds, and not thirty minutes? Or more.



That'a great for your kids' school. I live just down the street from a Milwaukee school that just distributed the proceeds of a winter clothing drive. Despite a record take, there was barely enough to meet needs. What if other schools had shortfalls?

You don't see poverty. That's awesome. Doesn't mean poverty doesn't exist. God I wish it did, but alas.



I don't disagree with your first sentiment, but then you go off the rails. Because this IS life threatening cold. Just last winter an adult woman died on a Milwaukee sidewalk because she fell and, despite being within feet of a bus stop, was out of sight. She froze to death right there on the pavement.

Part of learning how to be "tough" is learning to respect danger. This is dangerous. I work outside most of my day. I am going to be well prepared precisely because I know and respect the risk.

Also, there is something to be said for teaching children that sometimes discretion really is the better part of valor. If there is no meaningful need to put yourself in harm's way, why do so? That is simply bravado, and bravado is a terribly stupid reason to do anything.

It's not like they can't just make up the day later in the calender. What is being lost by erring on the side of safety?
I think we agree on more than we disagree. I'm well aware that this type of cold can be deadly....IF the proper precautions aren't taken. And IF accidents happen. All I'm saying is, parents equip your kids. Dress them appropriately. Keep an eye on them. And teach them to know when a threshold is met or when something doesn't seem right. And if you don't have the means to do so, THEN you don't send them and you inform the school of your kids absence and why. If a child has a longer distance to go to the bus, then parents you go with them, or drive them and wait for the bus in the car. And if they don't have a car, then again, they stay home. All I'm saying is, use common sense. Problem solve. And if you don't have the means to solve that problem, then let the parents make that decision to not send their child. My point is, we could all use a little more self-reliance and initiative to work through these things on our own, simple things like extreme cold. In my field of work, I've seen such things as you described as well, referring to the woman who died. Thats horrible. And I don't wish that upon anyone and my heart goes out for her and anyone that would have to die in such an awful way. However, I find it hard to believe that not a single soul saw this woman on the ground. My question would be, how many saw and then chose to do nothing? In my job, I practice respecting dangerous situations almost every single day. And I do. But I've also learned that those situations aren't going anywhere and to adapt, power through, equip myself and problem solve. I've also learned that unfortunately, so many people turn a blind eye when someone is in need like that poor woman. This has nothing to do with "bravado" or "valor". More to do with learning self-reliance and being aware. I also never said or implied that poverty doesn't exist and or that I don't see it. I see it often in my job. Again an assumption on your part that is incorrect. But I digress.

I think we can respectfully, agree to disagree on the general statement I originally made. You're obviously free to your opinions. And I really don't think we disagree on as much of the nuances here as you think. Good luck in the cold tomorrow and stay warm! I mean that sincerely, no sarcasm, no bullshit.
 
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I think we agree on more than we disagree. I'm well aware that this type of cold can be deadly....IF the proper precautions aren't taken. And IF accidents happen. All I'm saying is, parents equip your kids. Dress them appropriately. Keep an eye on them. And if you don't have the means to do so, THEN you don't send them and you inform the school of your kids absence and why. If a child has a longer distance to go to the bus, then parents you go with them, or drive them and wait for the bus in the car. And if they don't have a car, then again, they stay home. All I'm saying is, use common sense. Problem solve.
I'm going to put my two cents in, even though I educated my five at home. My oldest teaches in Minneapolis suburbs, not quite in the boondocks. If there are 25 kids in class and half are out due to weather conditions, why open the schools at all? You're heating the school for half capacity, fixing lunch for half capacity, running bus routes for half capacity. Cost wise, it's irresponsible.

Part of the danger isn't just the students who walk or are dropped off, but bus routes. Messy roads. Icy conditions. Should people be used to it? Sure. But why take those chances when the windchill is crazy? What if a bus goes in a ditch or is in an accident? They're stuck there in the cold.

Just my opinion.
 
My hats off to you for homeschooling all 5 of your kids! That's definitely something I could never do.

As for all the what if's, I feel like it's so easy to assume the worst in the possible what if situations so I tend not to do that. Not that the things you mentioned aren't legitimate possibilities. My original statement was simply a general one and in my kids case that go to a small school in a small town, I don't believe it's necessary to close. I understand that every municipality has it's own challenges and different number of kids and circumstances to consider
 
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