2010 Survivor Off-topic Chat

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

WTF? Why can't you tell Freddie yourself? Do you have him on ignore? If you do, you should, like you mean it. I'm sure some people appreciate your backdoor help to answer his original question of what the numbers were for the past two weeks. Typical man!

Hey, chill. Socklicker is like that. He's weird. Just ignore him.

You'd feel better if you voted for me and help to make me the Survivor Contest moderator. What do you think?

How cute would you look wearing your pink Survivor baseball cap? Imagine wearing your one size too small pink tee shirt pulled oh so tightly across your big boobs. Huh? Wouldn't that look great on you, while dangling your Survivor keychain around?

I know.

And just think, with the cheater, Bakeboss, gone, people would actually have a chance at winning a fairly run contest around her.

Let's put a new marshall in town. Vote for me. Vote for Freddie. Vote for a fair contest.

This ad was approved by me.

 

[YoursSINSerely]

Tell Gymsocklicker, why should I have to do that, when this contest is organized for Survivor Contestants and then left on it's own, abandoned and ignored, left to die. What the Hell kind of contest is this?

If the moderators don't want or don't have time to update the scoreboard and post the immunity numbers, then pass it off to someone who will.

This is ridiculous. It's insulting to all those playing the game in good faith. If it's not bad enough that they have a ringer, Bakeboss, in the contest, who has already accumulated enough points to win, then it's even worse that the moderators give little attention to helping to make this a fun and competitive contest.

Freddie,

I'm not a go-between, or going to be a part of a threesome for you two goofs, although your post made me laugh. Lemme teach ya a trick:

http://lottery.merseyworld.com/archive/Lott1507.html

The link above should go to the June 2 drawing. You can verify the date at the top of the web page. Apparently, they have two drawings a week, so be sure you are looking at the right drawing. When you scroll to the bottom of that web page, you will see a link that says, Next Lotto. Click on that until you get to the date you are looking for.

I know this doesn't solve the problem of the contestants being abandoned, but God helps those who help themselves. I think, in the beginning, He created Master-bation, I digress, then came, the Survivor Contest.

Give Crimson Maiden a break. She just had a birthday and I know if I were her age, I'd be out celebrating for a week or two, too. But, then, again, I like to celebrate! I do agree that the contestants have been left to fend for themselves. It seems to be the way of the world these days when its too time-consuming for a restaurant to pour your soda for you and they hand you an empty cup to fill it yourself. I'm just waiting for the day when McDonald's installs that cosmo button.

If you really want the job, fill out an application! You'll have to find the link yourself. You have my permission to use me as a reference.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Freddie,

I'm not a go-between, or going to be a part of a threesome for you two goofs, although your post made me laugh. Lemme teach ya a trick:

http://lottery.merseyworld.com/archive/Lott1507.html

The link above should go to the June 2 drawing. You can verify the date at the top of the web page. Apparently, they have two drawings a week, so be sure you are looking at the right drawing. When you scroll to the bottom of that web page, you will see a link that says, Next Lotto. Click on that until you get to the date you are looking for.

I know this doesn't solve the problem of the contestants being abandoned, but God helps those who help themselves. I think, in the beginning, He created Master-bation, I digress, then came, the Survivor Contest.

Give Crimson Maiden a break. She just had a birthday and I know if I were her age, I'd be out celebrating for a week or two, too. But, then, again, I like to celebrate! I do agree that the contestants have been left to fend for themselves. It seems to be the way of the world these days when its too time-consuming for a restaurant to pour your soda for you and they hand you an empty cup to fill it yourself. I'm just waiting for the day when McDonald's installs that cosmo button.

If you really want the job, fill out an application! You'll have to find the link yourself. You have my permission to use me as a reference.

Who do you think you're kidding? Do you think I'm stupid?

I see your pink Survivor bra hanging off the hanger over there. Did you not think I'd recognize it? You're one of them.'

That's why you don't vote for me. You don't need my tee shirt, hat, and keychain. You already have all those items and more.

Who are you really...Princess Erin. Aha!

You thought you could fool me, but you can't. I'm up to all of your tricks.

It's people like you who don't want a fair contest. Well, the rest of us do. Just look at all those named of contestants who voted for me.

Wait, where are all the names. No one voted for me. Really?

Of course, Literotica erased all the names of those who voted for me.

 

[YoursSINSerely]

Who do you think you're kidding? Do you think I'm stupid?

I see your pink Survivor bra hanging off the hanger over there. Did you not think I'd recognize it? You're one of them.'

That's why you don't vote for me. You don't need my tee shirt, hat, and keychain. You already have all those items and more.

Who are you really...Princess Erin. Aha!

You thought you could fool me, but you can't. I'm up to all of your tricks.

It's people like you who don't want a fair contest. Well, the rest of us do. Just look at all those named of contestants who voted for me.

Wait, where are all the names. No one voted for me. Really?

Of course, Literotica erased all the names of those who voted for me.

The fair system only allows me one vote. What's a honest member to do? I voted. I hope it gets counted and doesn't get missed with all of the other hanging Chads in the system. Now, send me the pink hat with an extra large brim to shade my extra large breasts. The sun is out east of some river.

BTW, you're welcome.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

The fair system only allows me one vote. What's a honest member to do? I voted. I hope it gets counted and doesn't get missed with all of the other hanging Chads in the system. Now, send me the pink hat with an extra large brim to shade my extra large breasts. The sun is out east of some river.

BTW, you're welcome.

After all the votes are counted and one man stands alone, the righteous one, the fair one, the one so determined, for once, to have a fair contest, the one who will not disqualify stories on January 2nd 2011, so that a ringer can win the 2010 Survivor Contest that was never meant for the rest of us participants to win and designed for all of us to lose by all those who control this farse of a contest, one man will stand with his arms raised over his head and his head held high, the ultimate survivor, me.

Ah, can't you hear it? The angels are singing, while playing their golden harps. I have finally broken through the gates of deception. I am here, the one writer who wants to uplift this site to where it should be, a place for writers to gather to write their stories without fear of being cheated out of winning a lousy contest.

I am the good one. I am the new Survivor Contest moderator.

I am Freddie, Bostonfictionwriter.

Shit, my alarm just went off. What time is it? I'm late. I must have been dreaming all this stuff. I gotta go. Bye.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

For all of you Survivor Contestants who sent me PM's, E-mails, letters, telegrams, money, cards, and gifts thanking for prompting CM to post the immunity thread for June, you're welcome. Please, there's no need to thank me. I'm just doing my job as Literotica's most prolific author. For the rest of you, why haven't you thanked me?

Besides, I won't feel, as if I've accomplished anything until the scorecard is updated and until Bakeboss resigns from the contest in shame.

Ah, I feel better getting all of that off my chest. Who wants to go for a swim? Last one in the pool is a dirty dog. Let's all go over to Scouries thread, he has the pool.

 

[YoursSINSerely]

For all of you Survivor Contestants who sent me PM's, E-mails, letters, telegrams, money, cards, and gifts thanking for prompting CM to post the immunity thread for June, you're welcome. Please, there's no need to thank me. I'm just doing my job as Literotica's most prolific author. For the rest of you, why haven't you thanked me?

Besides, I won't feel, as if I've accomplished anything until the scorecard is updated and until Bakeboss resigns from the contest in shame.

Ah, I feel better getting all of that off my chest. Who wants to go for a swim? Last one in the pool is a dirty dog. Let's all go over to Scouries thread, he has the pool.

You're the BEST, Freddie. Modesty becomes you. Hang onto that towel!

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

You moderators ought to be ashamed. Is this what this Survivor Contest is now? Are you so blantantly obvious that you allow one writer, Bakeboss, to write anything she wants and you allow it to be entered and scored as a point.

Have you read her latest story?

Sex After Sixty - A how to guide for geriatric sex.

She's kidding. And what's worse, you're kidding.

Never is when I could write a story such as this How To that Bakeboss has written and have it allowed to score a point in the How To category.

If Bostonfictiowriter's name appeared with the story that Bakeboss posted today, Lauren would have swooped down and dumped my story in the Non-Erotic or Review and Essay category.

Yet, Bakeboss is allowed to not only write anything but also post it anywhere, she deems fit.

Where are you moderators? You were so aggressive in your judgment back in 2007 & 2008, when I tried to fairly compete in an unfair contest. Where are you now that you do not change the categories of any of Bakeboss's jokes of stories.

Tell me, how is the story that she posted today a How To story? I'd like to know. I'd like to know how you can discrimminate against one writer and allow another writer to run rough shod over this contest in deference to all the other contestants.

It's obvious that this is not a fair contest, just as you moderators are helping, aiding, and abetting Bakeboss to make sure she wins. What is that about? Why is that?

Is Bakeboss a plant? Does she work or volunteer at Literotica? Is this how Literotica does not pay out the $500 first place prize? Is this what happened in 2007, when Mungo Park came from out of nowhere to beat me and how PrincessErin (Bakeboss) suddenly wrote more stories than me in 2008?

Tell me, were other writers helping MungoPark and PrincessErin to write more stories to win? Is that how you pulled it off? Now, you don't even attempt to cover it up. You just allow Bakeboss to write anything and post it anywhere.

Tell me, I'd like to know. I'd like to know that I was cheated out of winning this contest. Or is it that the highest that any writer here can hope to place in this contest is second place.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Hey, Lauren, you're big on stories must having sexual content and sexual scenes, at least that was your justification when you pulled so many of my stories out of category to dump them in non-erotic and reviews and essays.

Tell me, I'm curious. Have you read Bakeboss's new story, I Go To A Swinging Party? The one that's posted in Group Sex and that has barely any sex in it.

What would you have done, if that was my story? Huh? I know, you would have dumped it out of Group Sex and shit canned it in Non-Erotic and Reviews and Essays.

We just have to go back to my scorecard to see so many of my stories that you deemed had no sex in them, when, guess what, they all had more sexual content then these Bakeboss stories that you let stand.

Why is that? Are you Bakeboss? Is Bakeboss part of Literotica? Why does she get a free pass? Why is she allowed to post stories with no or very little sex in it, stories that you dumped out of categories in previous years that are now okay to post.

Why is that, Lauren? I'd like to know. We'd all like to know.

For sure, even though I'm the only one here with balls enough to complain, everyone in this contest reads my posts. Everyone playing this game hopes this is a fair contest. Everyone is beginning to realize the cards are stacked against them, just as it was stacked against me in 2007 & 2008.

Why is that, Lauren? And tell me this, why the silence?

I would think that if all my charges were baseless, you'd have plenty to say. You always did. You were always outspoken against me. You even took your hatred for me to other threads to complain about me to all your little AH friends. Remember that?

If Bakeboss's stories stand, then we all know this contest is rigged.

Or are you waiting until January 2nd, after everyone is done posting their stories to do something about it. What do you think you are Congress with their closed door, midnight sessions, when they pass their legislation for them and for no one else?

 

[YoursSINSerely]

Hey, Lauren, you're big on stories must having sexual content and sexual scenes, at least that was your justification when you pulled so many of my stories out of category to dump them in non-erotic and reviews and essays.

Tell me, I'm curious. Have you read Bakeboss's new story, I Go To A Swinging Party? The one that's posted in Group Sex and that has barely any sex in it.

What would you have done, if that was my story? Huh? I know, you would have dumped it out of Group Sex and shit canned it in Non-Erotic and Reviews and Essays.

We just have to go back to my scorecard to see so many of my stories that you deemed had no sex in them, when, guess what, they all had more sexual content then these Bakeboss stories that you let stand.

Why is that? Are you Bakeboss? Is Bakeboss part of Literotica? Why does she get a free pass? Why is she allowed to post stories with no or very little sex in it, stories that you dumped out of categories in previous years that are now okay to post.

Why is that, Lauren? I'd like to know. We'd all like to know.

For sure, even though I'm the only one here with balls enough to complain, everyone in this contest reads my posts. Everyone playing this game hopes this is a fair contest. Everyone is beginning to realize the cards are stacked against them, just as it was stacked against me in 2007 & 2008.

Why is that, Lauren? And tell me this, why the silence?

I would think that if all my charges were baseless, you'd have plenty to say. You always did. You were always outspoken against me. You even took your hatred for me to other threads to complain about me to all your little AH friends. Remember that?

If Bakeboss's stories stand, then we all know this contest is rigged.

Or are you waiting until January 2nd, after everyone is done posting their stories to do something about it. What do you think you are Congress with their closed door, midnight sessions, when they pass their legislation for them and for no one else?

As usual, the Literotica Wizard is right, again. I thought the How To category was meant to give instructions. I can see this guy not having any sex for another year. This story should have been placed in Mature, but he's probably filled that one up already. Sad.

Gees, Bostonfictionwriter, you post so much here, I quoted the wrong post. LOL My comment is in reference to the Bakeboss story beng placed into the wrong category of How To. I haven't read the Swinging Party, and I'm not going to waste any more of my time reading things that aren't very good. It does make me wonder why Literotica even gives up valuable memory for crappy stories, though.

 

[CrimsonMaiden]

I've said this once before, but apparently it was ignored, so I will say it again in case you missed it the first time.

If you have a problem with specific stories by a participant, please send me a list of said stories by pm.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:
Originally Posted by BOSTONFICTIONWRITER
Hey, Lauren, you're big on stories must having sexual content and sexual scenes, at least that was your justification when you pulled so many of my stories out of category to dump them in non-erotic and reviews and essays.

Tell me, I'm curious. Have you read Bakeboss's new story, I Go To A Swinging Party? The one that's posted in Group Sex and that has barely any sex in it.

What would you have done, if that was my story? Huh? I know, you would have dumped it out of Group Sex and shit canned it in Non-Erotic and Reviews and Essays.

We just have to go back to my scorecard to see so many of my stories that you deemed had no sex in them, when, guess what, they all had more sexual content then these Bakeboss stories that you let stand.

Why is that? Are you Bakeboss? Is Bakeboss part of Literotica? Why does she get a free pass? Why is she allowed to post stories with no or very little sex in it, stories that you dumped out of categories in previous years that are now okay to post.

Why is that, Lauren? I'd like to know. We'd all like to know.

For sure, even though I'm the only one here with balls enough to complain, everyone in this contest reads my posts. Everyone playing this game hopes this is a fair contest. Everyone is beginning to realize the cards are stacked against them, just as it was stacked against me in 2007 & 2008.

Why is that, Lauren? And tell me this, why the silence?

I would think that if all my charges were baseless, you'd have plenty to say. You always did. You were always outspoken against me. You even took your hatred for me to other threads to complain about me to all your little AH friends. Remember that?

If Bakeboss's stories stand, then we all know this contest is rigged.

Or are you waiting until January 2nd, after everyone is done posting their stories to do something about it. What do you think you are Congress with their closed door, midnight sessions, when they pass their legislation for them and for no one else?

As usual, the Literotica Wizard is right, again. I thought the How To category was meant to give instructions. I can see this guy not having any sex for another year. This story should have been placed in Mature, but he's probably filled that one up already. Sad.

Gees, Bostonfictionwriter, you post so much here, I quoted the wrong post. LOL My comment is in reference to the Bakeboss story beng placed into the wrong category of How To. I haven't read the Swinging Party, and I'm not going to waste any more of my time reading things that aren't very good. It does make me wonder why Literotica even gives up valuable memory for crappy stories, though.

It is possible to have stories in some categories, besides reviews and Non-erotic, that have no sex in them. My Nude Day entry has no sex, except for a brief description of masturbation by the protag. I have other stories with not even that much.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Quote:
Originally Posted by BOSTONFICTIONWRITER
Hey, Lauren, you're big on stories must having sexual content and sexual scenes, at least that was your justification when you pulled so many of my stories out of category to dump them in non-erotic and reviews and essays.

Tell me, I'm curious. Have you read Bakeboss's new story, I Go To A Swinging Party? The one that's posted in Group Sex and that has barely any sex in it.

What would you have done, if that was my story? Huh? I know, you would have dumped it out of Group Sex and shit canned it in Non-Erotic and Reviews and Essays.

We just have to go back to my scorecard to see so many of my stories that you deemed had no sex in them, when, guess what, they all had more sexual content then these Bakeboss stories that you let stand.

Why is that? Are you Bakeboss? Is Bakeboss part of Literotica? Why does she get a free pass? Why is she allowed to post stories with no or very little sex in it, stories that you dumped out of categories in previous years that are now okay to post.

Why is that, Lauren? I'd like to know. We'd all like to know.

For sure, even though I'm the only one here with balls enough to complain, everyone in this contest reads my posts. Everyone playing this game hopes this is a fair contest. Everyone is beginning to realize the cards are stacked against them, just as it was stacked against me in 2007 & 2008.

Why is that, Lauren? And tell me this, why the silence?

I would think that if all my charges were baseless, you'd have plenty to say. You always did. You were always outspoken against me. You even took your hatred for me to other threads to complain about me to all your little AH friends. Remember that?

If Bakeboss's stories stand, then we all know this contest is rigged.

Or are you waiting until January 2nd, after everyone is done posting their stories to do something about it. What do you think you are Congress with their closed door, midnight sessions, when they pass their legislation for them and for no one else?




It is possible to have stories in some categories, besides reviews and Non-erotic, that have no sex in them. My Nude Day entrhy has no sex, except for a brief description of masturbation by the protag. I have other stories with not even that much.

Precisely my point, Boxlicker. This, after all, is Literotica and not Sexerotica. Aren't we all erotic writers? Isn't it more challenging and more exciting to write a story that is more erotic than it is blantantly sexual?

Yet, alas, when I competed, Lauren was pro-active in moving my stories out of category, even though they were all erotic, because she arbitrarily felt there was not enough sexual content in them. The same pro-active and arbitrarily movement of stories does not exist when it comes to Bakeboss's stories.

Why is that, I wonder? Shouldn't the rules of this contest be consistant? Shouldn't the rules be the same and apply to one writer as it does for another?

That's my complaint with this contest. I was unfaily singled out. Where other contestants, MungoPark, PrincessErin, and now Bakeboss, got away with posting whatever story they wrote, anywhere they wanted to post it, the same leniancy wasn't afforded to me.

Don't believe me? You'd just have to view my scorecards for 2007 & 2008 to see how the moderators here tied both hands behind my back by moving so many of my stories out of category and dumping them in Non-Erotic and Reviews and Essays. No other writer here has had as many stories moved. No other writer here has been as singled out and unfairly handicapped.

You were here competing in the contests, Boxlicker, and you know, as well as sr71plt, knows what I claim is true. You both made posts about my stories, you supporting the moderators decision to move my stories and sr71plt making posts that the moderators decision weren't fair.

All I have always asked if to have a fair contest. I really hate the last minute changes the moderators do on January 2nd, after the contest is over and are too late for competitors to make changes to conform to the last minute changes in the Survivor Contest rules.

I hate how one writer is favored over another. If, as a moderator, you don't like a person, then respect the story.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Well, I did my part. I put my head and reputation on the chopping block. Has anyone taken Crimson up on her kind offer to accept PM's about (ahem) a writer cheating?

Hey, don't take my word for it. Go to Bakeboss's page and read some of the stories that are in question...which are most of them.

Listen, people, I don't mind you not posting behind my posts to support what I wrote about Bakeboss to help you. That's your call and I certainly understand if you don't want to make you and your stories targets for bashing votes.

Me? I don't give a shit. It's always been about the stories with me and once the stories are written and posted, I'm off to my next story.

Yet, if anyone agrees with all that I've posted about Bakeboss writing stories that do not fit the categories or the rules, then now is your chance. Otherwise, without doubt, she's going to win 1st place and the rest of you will be moving down a place.

As far as I'm concerned, she should be disqualified for cheating all of you.

I've done my job as the Suvivor Contest Watch Dog. Now, I have a new job as Literotica's Wizard.

I'd like to thank Crimson for stepping up to the plate and making the offer to make this a fair contest. Thank you Crimson Maiden.

Whatever anyone decides to do, to report Bakeboss or not, good luck to everyone in the contest.

 

[SuperHeroRalph]

The purpose of the Survivor contest is to increase the number of stories and poems an author writes.

It has nothing to do with quality, or length, or votes, or comments. Turning this contest into a quality challenge versus a quantity challenge will never happen.

Nothing should be changed for next year's contest. It is doing it's purpose effectively, and, thankfully now that certain people are gone, has done so with not a lot of drama and whining and bullying.

Erin

Actually, Cassidy, sorry, I mean, Bakeboss, pardon, I mean, Erin, just between you and me, "certain people" are still here.

I write under Andtheend, Bostonfictionwriter, Carbuffstuff, PositiveThinker, WmForrester, and my new name for 2011 is SuperHeroRalph, but please don't tell anyone. Okay? Thanks.

It looks like, should you join, you'll be winning again in 2011, as you did in 2010 and 2008. I concede the contest to you, as I refuse to write "shit" stories. Even though I write a lot of stories, more than 800 amassing more than 25 million hits, I prefer writing quality stories to quantity.

Happy New Year

 

[SuperHeroRalph]

I think the chapter rule is silly because it's not particularly well designed. Mostly because nobody seems to have a solid answer for if Rocky is 6 separate stories staring the same charachter in similar situations or if it's one big story. I would say six separate stories but as some of the stories I wrote that got disqualified last year and a fwe other authors clealry that's not the "official" interpretation. But getting around it is simple anyway CHANGE THE NAMES. Technically there is no rule against submiting an exert from a story but even if there was again using my Rocky storie make Rocky 1 about Rocky, 2 is about Sly, 3 is about Mike, 4 is about Jim and then you've just side stepped the rule. Unless the story TRULY can't stand alone.

With a 750 word minimum we aren't really asking much as far as charachter developement or anything so for me the rule is equal parts annoying and unenforceable. Given my choice I'd write twenty stories following Buffy around but since I run the risk of those twenty being decided as chapters rather than stories I'll change her name between each one. Sucks for world building but whatev.

The chapter story rule was invoked because of Bostonfictionwriter, me. Even though my chapter stories were all stand alone stories and were stories that the reader did not have to refer back to the previous chapter, some people felt that I was abusing the contest by writing too many chapter stories.

Yet, some people, I won't mention names, and I'm not referring to you, Sean, continue to write minimum word stories with not only no beginning, middle, and end, but also no character development. Further, many of these "so called" stories don't even fit in the category.

Yet, I refuse to open up this bag of worms, yet, again. I'm just here to write stories, real stories, and not shitty stories, just to score a point in the Survivor contest.

What's the sense of writing a story if that story doesn't improve your writing skills and make you a better writer. To me, writing a low quality story, just for the sake of scoring a Survivor point is not only an injustice to the reader and to this site but also to the writer.

Happy New Year and good luck to you in the 2011 contest. I hope you win.

 

[SuperHeroRalph]

Hi, Erin. Nice to see you back again, but I hope you will be using some of the other AV's you used previously.

I think the chapter rule is necessary, mostly because of BFW and what he posted in the 2009 contest. However, I also think it was too broadly enforced.

What Freddie did was to write long, rambling stories and cut them into segments of about 800 words each. These segments were then posted as chapters of stories. In particular, I remember one "story" that consisted of a bunch of gangsters sitting around discussing plans. This went on for thousands of words and maybe a dozen or so chapters, and never really went anywhere. None of the chapters was even close to being a stand alone story, and the whole thing didn't really come to any kind of conclusion. I described it as drivel, and I meant it then and still do.

There was another about a woman who went to AL, and it went on for a long time, but it was at least somewhat erotic, and did come to a conclusion. All the chapters were short and none of them would have made much sense as a standalone story, but it was, at least, a complete story.

I believe the "Rocky" comparison is a good one. I consider the series to be six separate stories about one person, with supporting characters and adversaries, but it probably would have been counted as six chapters here, and not accepted except as a six chapter novel. I think many of us have similar, although not as successful, series in which one or two characters have sexual adventures, with each being a standalone sequel to the previous ones. As far as I can see, these should all be considered separate stories, just as each "Rocky" story should have been, had it been entered here. At the same time, I can see how making hundres of decisions on these stories would be very time-consuming to the monitors.

I see Freddie is also trying to advocate some kind of quality control, and require individual stories to be longer than Literotica's minimum and have plot and character development. Most of my stories are over 3,000 words anyhow, but some items, notably How-to's and Reviews & Essays and Letters & Transcripts are likely to be shorter. A normal story of mine will have no plot to speak of and no conflict and no real character development. It will be about4,000 words graphically describing the sexual fun being had by a person or two or more. I make no apologies for this. People come here to read dirty stories and that's what they usually get when they read mine.

There is one change I would advocate, and that relates to immunities. This year, with the cap levelss, it is necessary to fill the first two levels of two categories for every immunity. I believe this is excessive, and only one entry in either of two different categories should be required. I like the idea of the cap levels, because it emphasizes versatility, which is one of the goals of the contest. In the past, I have seen people pile up sixty or so entries in a single category, and I believe this should continue to be not permitted.

As usual in your attack of me, Box, you have your head up your ass.

Bostonfictionwriter wrote stories in 2007 and 2008 and not in 2009. Do you have that?

Secondly, go through my page of more than 600 stories and let me know when you find an 800 word story, you moron.

Thirdly, no quality control, just real stories other than the shit stories that Erin wrote in 2008 and what Bakeboss wrote in 2010.

Have a happy fucking New Year Box, maybe you'll do us all a favor and be hit by a drunk driver.

"Asshole!"

Your attacks on me are constant and unprovoked.

 

[SuperHeroRalph]

Just a quick note to say that *any* post not on topic with this thread is gonna be moved. I don't want this thread cluttered with ranting and raving and arguing.

Now, with that being said, let me address what's been said so far:

SHR... BFW (and whoever the heck else you are): As has been said in probably every plotting and planning thread we've had, minimum story word count is set by the administrators of the web site. It will not be something that is up for change unless the site admins change the minimum word count for the entire site. Except for novellas, minimum word count for all stories will always be whatever the minimum word count for the entire site is.

Babs: Requiring a certain number of votes per story is not doable. There is no way for a moderator to check on story votes. We do not have access to those numbers.

Box: I am not sure I understand your suggestion for immunities and cap levels. Can you explain further?

Sean: The chapter rule is probably always going to be contentious to some because the final ruling on those is up to the moderator and of course, it's personal opinion on whether or not the moderator feels a story is too similar to a previous one to be considered stand alone. Reasons that got stories disqualified as chapters included having references to the previous stories, copied paragraphs of text from previous stories, or obvious continuation of a previous story (among some other things but that's what I remember off the top of my head.) Honestly, the rule is a bitch to enforce because you are always going to have someone unhappy and complaining. On the other hand, I really don't want to go back to having someone write a long story and then haphazardly chop it into sections and count it as "chapters" just to get extra points, which is why the rule got put into place to begin with.

As far as your question about a story counting for 3 points if you use an immunity instead of 1... It's your choice whether or not to use an immunity. The consequence of using that immunity is taking the cut in points. If there was no trade off for using an immunity, everyone would use them just to take care of one of the slots in each category without even thinking about writing a story instead.

Scarlett, Sean, et al: This contest is about writing as many stories in as many categories as possible. It isn't about votes or scores. There will not be bonus points given for votes or scores. For one thing, it's not within the scope of this contest. For another, it's way too easy to manipulate scores.

Feel free to move this post, too, Crimson, as the only posts you move to the other thread are my posts.

When both PrinceErin and Boxlicker attacked me, which had nothing to do with this thread, you left their posts there. Why is that? Yet, when I defend myself by responding to their posts, my posts are moved and I'm deemed the troublemaker. Why is that, Crimson? Is it just because you don't like me?

Whether you like me or not should have nothing to do with the Survivor contest rules, yet, every year, I'm singled out.

You quote the Literotica rules when stating that since Literotica has a 750 word minimum, that is what the Survivor contest must have.

Yet, answer me this. When all my stories were posted by Literotica in 2007 and in 2008 in specific categories by Laurel, why did the moderators for the Survivor contest move my stories, stories that were originally posted in one category by Laurel and dumped in Non-erotic and Reviews and Essay categories by the moderators?

There are rules for every other competitor and different rules for me. Why is that?

How can you justify moving my stories out of categories accepted and posted in by Laurel and then quote the 750 minimum rule. You're contradicting yourself. You don't make any sense.

Either have the same rules for everyone in a contest or don't have any rules.

I can't wait to see what happens this year. Either have a fair contest for everyone, including me, or don't have a contest at all.

Thank you

 

[Boxlicker101]

As I'm reading this I'm wondering if we can drop the chapter rule. What has already been said is as follows
1 - Survivor contest is to challenge authors to write as many stories as possible
2 - the cap system (which is wonderful btw) forces writers to write in different categories

So.. from someone who knows how to play the number game....

It would make sense to remove the chapter rule because if I write a 7500 word story and split it up into 10 chapters unless I have all the other categories filled up only 3 of those stories will count (well 4 if you decide to fill the 3rd cap level). Of course if I'm sneaky and put those 10 stories into 10 different categories they of course will be moved by the moderators because it makes no sense to have one story fall under many different categories.

Oh and Boxlicker's suggestion about immunities makes a lot of sense and I hope that is implemented.

Erin

You know as well as I do why the chapter rule was implemented, and who caused it to happen. This person I refer to did what you say - cut rambling stories into multiple parts and posted them separately. Some of them did go into different categories.

The contest moderators have nothing to do with where stories go. That is up to Laurel or somebody working for her. You might remember that unnamed person also carping about his stories being posted to categories where he didn't want them.

I understand the need for the chapter rule, even though I don't like it. I have some stand alone stories that were considered chapters because they involved some of the same characters and were set in the same locale. Even so, the elimination of the previous abuses, I believe, outweighs anything I lose.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Just when I think I'm out of it, George pulls me back in.

"Stories being posted to categories where he didn't want them?"

Hello? George, Laurel posted my stories to the correct categories and then, they were changed to other categories by those running the surivor contest. Why? So that I'd lose. Don't believe me? Just check my sheet against the Survivor contest. One doesn't reconcile to the other.

It's funny how you only blame me for chapter stories, George, when PrincessErin was the queen of chapter stories and the reason why she wants them instated again. Duh?

Hi, Freddie. If you look at my previous post, you will see I did not mention you by name, including any of your multitude of alts. However, if the shoe fits...

As for changing the category of stories, only Laurel can do that. She has placed stories of mine where I did not want them, much to my chagrin. I have objected sometimes, and sometimes they have been changed, but not usually. However, if a reader believes a story is in the wrong category, he or she can notify Laurel, and the story might or not get changed.

Gee, I'm curious if Bakeboss will compete in 2011. Seeing that a certain someone has joined the contest, I'll willing to bet that Bakeboss comes up lame this year and "poof", disappears.

Funny how that happens.

Judging from previous posts, I presume you mean Princess Erin. I don't know if she has entered under an alt or not, and I don't care. You certainly have no room to complain if she has, because you have done the same thing at least once in previous years, and you are doing it this year.

I say we keep the chapter rule. Let's write stand alone, complete stories.

Bakeboss managed to skirt the rule of chapter by writing stories that don't fit into the categories that she wrote them in. Funny how she was allowed to write stories in any category she wanted. It makes me wonder if Bakeboss isn't one of Literotica's own, a plant, in the way she's given special treatment and in the terrible way that I was treated, when I competed in 2007 & 2008.

Yet, here we are rehashing this again in 2011 because of the posts made my two people who cannot drop it and who cannot leave me the fuck alone.

I agree with keeping the chapter rule, but my definition of "chapter" may not be the same as Crim's. In 2009, I had several stories that I considered to be stand alone stories, each with a beginning and an end, and I listed them on my scoresheet. These included stories of Strider and the hot blonde student. However, since they were about the same characters and/or were set in the same place as other stories, they were disqualified as being chapters. Personally, I thught of them as stand alone stories, and still do, but I will accept the rulings of the moderators.

On the other hand, you had "stories" that were longer works, cut into short chapters, each under 1,000 words, and these were disqualified, as they should have been. One of them was "Revenge in Alabama" or something similar, and another was what I described in another post, about a bunch of gangsters. Those were the only ones I read, but you have other long series, and some of those would probably be considered to be chapters, rather than stories in a series.

George, if you remember, I helped you get published and this is my thank you for that, you being a complete and utter asshole to me constantly and continually. You begged me to help you get your story published and I put you in contact with my publisher. Do you remember that, George. And now this.

"Et tu, Brute?"

You're just a little, ungrateful bitch of a back stabber, aren't you? You miserable piece of shit.

I do remember. I asked you for a link, and you gave me one. I thanked you and contacted them, and I have two ebooks with them, from which I have received about $100 to date.

BTW, if you look at all your posts, under all your alts, and compare them to all my posts, I am quite sure you will find yourself badmouthing me a lot more than I badmouth you. This is not a complaint, just an observation.

PrincessErin, if you remember, I allowed you to win the contest in 2008, when you sent me a PM in November telling me that your husband was unemployed and you really needed the $500 to fix your car. Oh, and I still have that PM on my BFW account, if anyone thinks I'm making this up. As evidence, if you look at BFW sheet, I stopped writing stories in December and everyone question why I stopped, but you, when I was leading and ready to win the contest.

Yet, this is how you thank me by attacking me in your first post on this thread. It's funny how your post wasn't moved to the off topic but my response was.

And I'm labeled the troublemaker. Why? Because I write too many stories and none of you misfits, not one of you, can compete against me fairly without cheating and having the support of the moderators to help you win against me.

I don't think you should allow chapter stories, but if you do, I already have more than 2 dozen, that's more than 24 stories to post in the Valentine's contest. Let me know in advance if you're going to allow chapter stories and I'll start breaking them up in the 750 word segments that George is so convinced that all my stories are and that Bakeboss routinely writes and PrincessErin wrote. It's funny how both writers had the exact same style of writing. Weird. It's probably just a coincidence. Huh?

Okay, Crimson, you can move me. I'm ready to go. Wait, just let me buckle my seat belt.

By the way, Crimson, you made a comment about my identities, SHR...BFW, whoever else I am. For the record, I know of two other identities that you have, Crimson. So, let's not play miss innocent because nearly everyone here has multiple identities.

For those who dont' know me, I am Andtheend, Bostonfictionwriter, CarBuffStuff, PositiveThinker, WmForrester, and now SuperHeroRalph, with more than 900 stories and nearly 6 million words posted and approaching 30 million hits, I am the most prolific writer, bar none, on Literotica. You'd think I'd get a little respect instead of jealously, huh Box?

My story, I Love You Mommy, written by WmForrester, me, was the most read story in 2010 with more than 600,000 hits and nearly 1,000 votes. Not bad, huh, George? What do you have, other than a negative attitude?

Freddie, you are lying about the number of hits. You may have forgotten there is a statistic of the number of hits in the last 12 months, which would include all of 2010 except maybe two days. Here is the link: http://www.literotica.com/top/most-read-erotic-stories/last-12-months/?mode=publishes

One of your many alts is #16 on the list with 202,685 hits, if that makes you feel better. Except for what Scouries might keep independently, I don't believe there is any listing of most votes.

As for what I have, the best I can do is the 167th most read story of all time, with 740,785 hits and 2,163 votes, which average 3.90. Her is a link to that, if you are interested. http://www.literotica.com/top/most-read-erotic-stories/alltime/?page=4

I also find it hard to believe you have six million words in 900 stories. That would be an average of 6,666 words per story. Nothing of yours I have read is even close to being that long.

 

[SuperHeroRalph]

I don't lie, George.

My story, I Love You Mommy, written by WmForrester, fell from the chart in October 2010, after leading the chart from October 2009 until October 2010.

Even now, no story in a 12 month period has more hits than I Love You Mommy, 600,000 and counting. Give it some time and it will soon reach the all time chart. It still has a way to go to do that.

Now, about my stories being moved out of category. The only place my stories were moved out of category was in the Survivor contest and not on my page. How about that, George?

Fucked up, huh?

What do you have to say about that now?

Lauren, not Laurel, routinely moved my stories from where they were posted by Laurel to the Non-erotic and Reviews and Essay category.

Anything else? Or are we done here?

 

[Boxlicker101]

I don't lie, George.

My story, I Love You Mommy, written by WmForrester, fell from the chart in October 2010, after leading the chart from October 2009 until October 2010.

Even now, no story in a 12 month period has more hits than I Love You Mommy, 600,000 and counting. Give it some time and it will soon reach the all time chart. It still has a way to go to do that.

Now, about my stories being moved out of category. The only place my stories were moved out of category was in the Survivor contest and not on my page. How about that, George?

Fucked up, huh?

What do you have to say about that now?

Lauren, not Laurel, routinely moved my stories from where they were posted by Laurel to the Non-erotic and Reviews and Essay category.

Anything else? Or are we done here?

I still don't believe you, although I can't prove otherwise. As WmForester, you have only eight stories, and I can't believe an author with so few items would have that many hits on one of them. It was a theme contest entry, and had many PC, but I still don't believe it has that many hits. That's more than twice as many as the current most hits in a 12 month period.

As for moving stories from one category to another to another, only the management can do that, and sometimes they do so upon complaints from readers. However, Management does not move stories unless they are convinced the stories should be in a different category.

You say the stories were only moved when they were entered in the Survivors' Contest in 2007 and 2008. Well, Duh, writing as BFW, virtually all your stories were posted in those two years and were, presumably, entered in the contest.

As for chapters, I stand by what I said earlier, Most of the stories by BFW are listed as chapters or parts of long stories, and most of the parts, at least the ones I looked at, took up only one Lit. Page, and a short page at that.

 

[PrincessErin]

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[SuperHeroRalph]

Actually now with the upgrade on the story part of the site you can see how many views and votes each story has.

So WmForrester's story "I Love You Mommy" has 580714 views, 43 comments, and 15 people have
favourited that story. The score is 4.08.

Really hard to make up numbers now.

Thank you, Princess and a big, fat raspberry to you, jealous George.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:
Originally Posted by PrincessErin
Actually now with the upgrade on the story part of the site you can see how many views and votes each story has.

So WmForrester's story "I Love You Mommy" has 580714 views, 43 comments, and 15 people have
favourited that story. The score is 4.08.

Really hard to make up numbers now.

Thank you, Princess and a big, fat raspberry to you, jealous George.

Okay, I stand partially corrected. I say "partially" because that is still fewer than 600,000.