2010 Survivor Off-topic Chat

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

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Well, Bakeboss, did it again, made a farse of Literotica's Survivor Contest.

I ask you, when will you put a stop to her writing Non-erotic and Review and Essay stories and classifying them as something they aren't, sexual stories?

Once, again, there was no sex in this story, either, that is, if we go by Moderator Lauren's definition of a story needing to have a lot of graphic and explicit sex for it to post within a contest category, other than non-erotic and review and essay.

Why is this one writer allowed to post her non-erotic and review and essay stories, stories that do not contain any sexual context, in any category she deems without the written complaint and abuse that I received when trying to honestly play the game?

I dare you to read her stories and tell me that they all belong in the categories that she has been posting them to fit.

C'mon, are you kidding me? This is crazy. This is blatant. Listen, I don't care a rat's ass about me. As the official Survivor Watch Dog, (lol), my concern is for the other contestants who write stories in hopes of competing. They don't have a chance if one writer is allowed to skirt the rules that you moderators have already established when I played the game in 2007 and 2008.

Now, I reread those rules over and again and guess what, there is no rule written that reads that Bakeboss is allowed to post her non-erotic and review and essay story in any category that she wants. Go figure. Yet, she's allowed to do just that without recourse, especially after I've brought my charges to light of everyone playing this game. Weird, huh, and telling, for that matter?

Admittedly, it was a great story. I never read a 1005 word story that was so engaging, since I read the article in Reader's Digest about Hemmoroid creme. Amazing. Funny how two stories so different, could be about the same subject.

Answer me this. Do you remember PrincessErin writing to you about last year's Survivor Contest and complaining that there were some writers writing stories that she felt were chapter stories? Do you remember that?

Yeah, I know, you jumped all over that one, didn't you? You started disqualifying everyone's story, but for Bakeboss's stories. I remember that. Bakeboss gradually moved up the ladder. Now, here she is again, trying to slither by to win the contest by writing non-erotic and review and essay stories and calling them stories that have sexual content.

I don't know, call me crazy, but I have a funny feeling that PrincessErin is Bakeboss. That certainly would explain how she was allowed to win the 2008 Survivor contest over me. I had one hand tied behind my back, while competing. Not only did I have to compete against PrincessErin, but I had to compete against the moderators, who didn't want me to win under any circumstance.

Nothing has changed with this unfairly run contest. Why suddenly, do you not do anything about Bakeboss's obvious cheating, when you were so aggressive to change the results of last year's contest, at the eleventh hour, I might add, by "arbitrarily" (that's an appropriate word) disqualifying everyone's stories? How was that a fair contest?

I think we need an investigation. I have a feeling the moderators are accepting bribes and kickbacks (lol). Maybe Crimson gets free panties (lol).

Is this what will happen? On January 2, 2011, will you go into Bakeboss's scorecard and disqualify most of her stories for not fitting the categories she posted them in? Is that it? Are you waiting for the last possible minute to show everyone that this is a fair contest? Or because of what I've uncovered, are you just in a quandry of what the Hell to do to still make Bakeboss the winner?

Why can't we just have a fair contest? Why must there be rules for one and not for all? I don't understand. Hey, I'm just trying to get some ground rules established for when I throw my hat in the ring in October.

So, by not disqualifying Bakeboss's stories are you implying, by your silence, that, now, since I haven't competed, that any story, even non-erotic and review and essay stories, are now acceptable to post in any category that the writer wants? If I tried doing that, all my stories would be dumped in the non-erotic and review and essay categories, as they were in 2007 and 2008?

Which is it? You can't have it both ways? Either you have rules or you don't have rules?

Tell you what, why don't you just post Bakeboss's rules, along with the official Suvivor rules, so that the rest of us will know what we must do to compete with one writer who is allowed by the moderators to skirt the rules to her benefit. Definitely that would have helped me to play the game, when I competed.

Just as an aside, not that it makes any difference, but do you realize that my thread posts are nearly as long as Bakeboss's stories? Defiinitely, they are more interesting to read, that's for sure. Wow.

 

[YoursSINSerely]

Dear Watchdog,

Please explain to me why I would spend my time reading a crappy story. Will it help if I leave a crappy comment at the end of it? With all of your watchdogging going on, what would you suggest that little olde me can do to help? I have cardboard and sticks ready to picket, but I'm not sure where to march.

Yours Sinserely,

Babs

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Dear Watchdog,

Please explain to me why I would spend my time reading a crappy story. Will it help if I leave a crappy comment at the end of it? With all of your watchdogging going on, what would you suggest that little olde me can do to help? I have cardboard and sticks ready to picket, but I'm not sure where to march.

Yours Sinserely,

Babs

To answer your question, why would you spend time reading a crappy story, only you can answer that. I would imagine if you were bored or didn't know it was a crappy story, you'd read it. There are some crappy stories that are enjoyable crappy stories, depending on the mood of the reader at the time. I suggest you pose the question to our crappiest storyteller, Bakeboss. Perhaps, she can answer you.

I'm afraid there is little you can do to help the plight of this contest. This contest is not our game to change. The moderators have the football. They make the rules, albeit arbitrary rules that change at the end of every contest, before they post their final results.

I've complained to the moderators and they refer me to Laurel. I've complained to Laurel and she differs to the moderators. It's a shill game. It's a combination of the two, Laurel and the moderators, who pick the winner of this contest.

My only suggestion, which I've suggested every year, is that they raise the word count from 750 to 1,500. That will stop some of the crappy little stories and make them longer crappy stories. Truly, it is a bit more difficult to write a 1,500 word crappy story than it is to write a 750 word crappy story.

The moderators argument for not raising the word count is that Literotica accepts 750 word stories, so should the Survivor Contest. With that logic in mind, Literotica accepts chapter stories, so why shouldn't the Survivor Contest.

The rules here are whatever the moderators want to make them and the winner is whomever they chose to win. Save your picket signs for a battle that you can win. This fight is not worth your time.

Unfortunately, the 2010 Survivor Contest has already been decided. It's over. This could have been a good writer's contest, but it's been turned into a circus by Bakeboss, someone who doesn't give a care about quality writing or improving as a writer.

Yet, good writing isn't what this contest is about. Unfortunately, the Survivor Contest, a misnomer, is about writing the most stories. I'm afraid the only survivor of this contest, is the poor reader and not the writer.

If we define what a story is, as having a beginning, a middle, and and ending with a storyline and enough tension to make the reader want to read it, along with developed characters, who tell the story through their eyes, then Bakeboss has failed in writing any stories, I dare say. Bake boss doesn't write stories.

Bakeboss writes random words on a page. She writes nonsense. One would think that someone who writes so many nonsensical stories would improve, but she doesn't. Her stories get worse.

Thereby with that in mind, since Bakeboss does not write what any English teacher would deem as a story, Bakeboss should be disqualified.

I'm afraid that if the shoe was on my foot, if I was submitting so called stories in the way that Bakeboss has dumped her random words on the board, everyone would be complaining about me, especially our most vocal resident here, Boxlicker. Then, PrincessErin would jump on board and have her say. Together they would go off with the moderators and weed their little contest garden of me and my stories.

It's funny that we haven't heard from PrincessErin, even though I've mentioned her named numerous times. She doesn't want everyone to know that she's Bakeboss. It's obvious that she is Bakeboss. They both write the same. It's undeniable. Their writing is their fingerprint.

Well, once again, I've had my say. What was the quesion?

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

By the way, not to nitpick, but isn't today, the 9th day of April?

Where's April's immunity post? Does anyone know? I see March is out there. Now if someone has one an immunity last week, too bad. There's no place to post their immunity.

Will the moderator allow the contestant to post his or her immunity anyway, even if it is past the Wednesday deadline because she failed to put April's immunity in place?

I'm here for you, Crim, if you need my help (lol).

 

[CharleyH]

By the way, not to nitpick, but isn't today, the 9th day of April?

Where's April's immunity post? Does anyone know? I see March is out there. Now if someone has one an immunity last week, too bad. There's no place to post their immunity.

Will the moderator allow the contestant to post his or her immunity anyway, even if it is past the Wednesday deadline because she failed to put April's immunity in place?

I'm here for you, Crim, if you need my help (lol).

Go to bed, Sleep tight and sweet dreams, even moderators have more exciting things to do sometimes than post here, Boston.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Go to bed, Sleep tight and sweet dreams, even moderators have more exciting things to do sometimes than post here, Boston.

If the moderators are too busy to man or woman (lol), the site, then why take on the reponsibility? Give it to someone who has the time and who wants to do the job.

Believe it or not, this contest is important to some people, not just for the contest sake, but for the sake or writing, expressing themselves, and stretching their writing ability by writing in different categories. I'm sure they'd like to see the contest site better updated.

What pisses me off, CharleyH, is when there is a player who, obviously, doesn't value the art of writing and just writes the minimum story, under the rules, that will give her a point in the contest. She's only cheating herself.

Yet, there are others here, better writers, who'd be thrilled to win this contest. Only, they cannot lower their writing standards to write the shitty, little story that it takes to win this contest. I commisserate with them.

Do you understand that, CharleyH, or are you just trying to be the little shit that you are?

I can see from the vast number of posts that you have under your belt, nearly 16,000, that you don't have too many exciting things to do but to post here and to annoy others (lol).

 

[sr71plt]

They do it all just to piss you (and only you) off, Freddie. And they seem to be doing a jolly job of it.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

They do it all just to piss you (and only you) off, Freddie. And they seem to be doing a jolly job of it.

It's amazing that you find the time to make a comment. Actually, that's all you do, of late, now that I see the number of posts that you've accumulated. You're always making comments, sticking your brown nose (literally) in other people's business.

Shouldn't you be writing a gay story, a gay series, a gay book, or just doing something gay? Or is that what you're doing now? Acting gay by tugging on Superman's cape?

Is it my skin tight tights that attract you (lol) and my huge package?

You of all people should understand good writing, being that you're a self-professed writer, and one who has never participated and would never stoop, so low, to compete in the Survivor Contest.

With that said, why are you here, other than to stir up shit? Is there nothing that momentarily captures your interest on the AH board?

Who are we today, super sonic pilot? Super model? Actor? Singer? Diplomat? Writer? Spy? Surely, I have forgot to mention one or two of your avocations and I apologize if I left them out, yet, I'm sure you will remind me.

 

[sr71plt]

You're so predictable, Freddie. And so easy to manipulate.

Why, I'm here to watch you hyperventilate and get jerked around, Freddie. Jolly good fun.

 

[sr71plt]

Speaking of publishing, Freddie, I notice that you still have those two sleazy covers posted on your profile at Lit. for books that your publisher dumped years ago--and used the covers for other books. Isn't it time you stopped living in the minisule failures of your past and pretending you were a published author?

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Speaking of publishing, Freddie, I notice that you still have those two sleazy covers posted on your profile at Lit. for books that your publisher dumped years ago--and used the covers for other books. Isn't it time you stopped living in the minisule failures of your past and pretending you were a published author?

Actually, Habu, I am a published author, but there's no need for me to brag about my credentials, in the way that you so enjoy doing.

As far as the covers, the publisher didn't dump the books, I pulled them. We've had this same discussion before. As you well know, E-book publishers do not accurately record and pay royalties, which is why I pulled the books.

Again, you already know this. We've have this conversation several times before. You're just hoping to stir up shit. Don't you have anything else better to do.

Listen the Red Sox game is just starting with Kansas City. I'm sure you can play with yourself, while I watch the game. Have fun.

 

[sr71plt]

Actually, Habu, I am a published author, but there's no need for me to brag about my credentials, in the way that you so enjoy doing.

As far as the covers, the publisher didn't dump the books, I pulled them. We've had this same discussion before. As you well know, E-book publishers do not accurately record and pay royalties, which is why I pulled the books.

Again, you already know this. We've have this conversation several times before. You're just hoping to stir up shit. Don't you have anything else better to do.

Listen the Red Sox game is just starting with Kansas City. I'm sure you can play with yourself, while I watch the game. Have fun.

Yeah, yeah. Wink, wink.

Youse got dumped for trying to pass rubbish off on a substandard "publisher." And you are so disillusioned that you keep the covers up to try to pretend like you're published. Pathetic.

Tell us, Freddie, where can we buy one of these books you are claiming you have?

What, is that foam coming out of your mouth?

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Yeah, yeah. Wink, wink.

Youse got dumped for trying to pass rubbish off on a substandard "publisher." And you are so disillusioned that you keep the covers up to try to pretend like you're published. Pathetic.

Tell us, Freddie, where can we buy one of these books you are claiming you have?

What, is that foam coming out of your mouth?

Sorry, my queer cyber friend, but the only one with white stuff around his mouth is you. I'm not the fag here. You are. Or are you bi-sexual today?

Thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule to write, but it's time for you to skip off and take one up the ass and in the mouth. You need all the inspiration you can get to write your gay little stories.

It must suck to be you, no pun intended, having to write for someone else. I'm having the time of my life writing for me. I write whatever I want, whenever I want. I don't have to publish, even though I am published.

You're just jealous because you actually have to work for a living and I don't. You're just pissed because you don't have any money. You spend you days here posting thousands of nonsensical posts pretending you're a famous and well respected writer. How's that working for you? Good luck to you.

So, what did you do with all your money? I thought gay men had money. You don't have any children to raise. All you have is your cat. You don't live with anyone. You're just an old, gay, fat man alone writing gay stories that no one reads. Maybe it's time you branched out and wrote something else.

 

[sr71plt]

You, of course, protest too much, Freddie. You can come out of the closet; it's OK. Just don't expect any of the guys to want you any better than the gals did.

Talked with your former "publisher" at Erotic Excursions. He said you were dumped because you were a whiny little Nancy boy who couldn't write worth spit and were a clinging shit stirrer. Imagine calling you whiny. Who would ever get the idea you were whiny--or a shit stirrer?

I guess having those covers of nonexistent books up on your profile here makes you feel like a real writer, doesn't it?

 

[andtheend]

Does anyone know what the immunity number is for this week?

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

You, of course, protest too much, Freddie. You can come out of the closet; it's OK. Just don't expect any of the guys to want you any better than the gals did.

Talked with your former "publisher" at Erotic Excursions. He said you were dumped because you were a whiny little Nancy boy who couldn't write worth spit and were a clinging shit stirrer. Imagine calling you whiny. Who would ever get the idea you were whiny--or a shit stirrer?

I guess having those covers of nonexistent books up on your profile here makes you feel like a real writer, doesn't it?

So, let me get this straight. You spoke to a man at Erotic Excursions? What was his name (lol)?

Tell me, Habu, if I'm such a terrible writer, why does it take so many of you AH regulars to gang up on me to put me in my place? Over 3 years, there's been about 30 or 40 of you allowing me to make asses of yourselves. Don't you get tired of being embarrassed? Have you no self-respect?

Actually, Erotic Excursions wanted me to write a book a month. I ask you, Habu, what kind of book can anyone write in a month? I'll tell you. The kind of books that you vomit out in a month, garbage. Nope, sorry, that's not for me. I don't need the money. I'm a free man.

I've read some of your stories, Ace, and I'm unimpressed.

Just my opinion, of course, but E-books are a step above vanity press. Hey, maybe one day, you'll write a real book, one that you can hold in your hand without having to print it out yourself.

 

[sr71plt]

So, let me get this straight. You spoke to a man at Erotic Excursions? What was his name (lol)?

Tell me, Habu, if I'm such a terrible writer, why does it take so many of you AH regulars to gang up on me to put me in my place? Over 3 years, there's been about 30 or 40 of you allowing me to make asses of yourselves. Don't you get tired of being embarrassed? Have you no self-respect?

Actually, Erotic Excursions wanted me to write a book a month. I ask you, Habu, what kind of book can anyone write in a month? I'll tell you. The kind of books that you vomit out in a month, garbage. Nope, sorry, that's not for me. I don't need the money. I'm a free man.

I've read some of your stories, Ace, and I'm unimpressed.

Just my opinion, of course, but E-books are a step above vanity press. Hey, maybe one day, you'll write a real book, one that you can hold in your hand without having to print it out yourself.

Yeah, yeah. Wink, wink.

Do you have covers of nonexisting books posted to your profile here or not? Where can we buy these nonexisting books?

Your lies are right there for everyone to see.

The publisher at Erotic Excursions was angry you are displaying covers with their name on them for books that don't exist--pretending here that you are a published author--after you had been dumped as a troublemaker and a whiny shit stirrer years ago (imagine anyone thinking you are a troublemaker and whiny. Gasp. ). Said they probably wouldn't do anything about it, because they were well rid of you--said they'd never had such a baby as you to try to deal with (Imagine that!).

Not at all hard for anyone to check out who's spitting in the wind here and who isn't.

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

Yeah, yeah. Wink, wink.

Do you have covers of nonexisting books posted to your profile here or not? Where can we buy these nonexisting books?

Your lies are right there for everyone to see.

The publisher at Erotic Excursions was angry you are displaying covers with their name on them for books that don't exist--pretending here that you are a published author--after you had been dumped as a troublemaker and a whiny shit stirrer years ago (imagine anyone thinking you are a troublemaker and whiny? ). Said they probably wouldn't do anything about it, because they were well rid of you--said they'd never had such a baby as you to try to deal with.

Not at all hard for anyone to check out who's spitting in the wind here and who isn't.

Is that all you have to say? Just the same old shit? Nothing new? Where's your creativity, Habu? Can't you think of anything else to write but this tired old stuff? You're not even believable anymore. You're just pathetic.

The two books in question, existed, as you know, and I pulled them, as you know that, too. I have nothing to hide. I have nothing to be ashamed of and embarrassed by, so why would I take offense of you making a fool of yourself? Knock yourself out.

Is that what you really think of me? I'm a whiny troublemaker because I stand up for myself after I've been wronged by the moderators of this Suvivor Contest, two years in a row? You have the right to your opinion. Only, we both know that I'm right. My argument holds water. You know just as well as I do the games that are played around here. No matter, what does it matter?

I'm a self-righteous man. I'm a man without sin. I'm a man with conviction. My only crime here is that I write stories and that I wrote too many of them, which is why the clicky regulars around here didn't like me. "They" didn't want me to win, so I didn't.

Now, here you are drunk as a skunk and making a complete ass of yourself, again. Tell me, what's it like to be so lonely that you must spend your time here writing your nonsensical little posts and stirring up shit with me? Don't you have better things to do?

I'm going to go to bed. You may continue on without me, not that you need my permission. I feel sorry for you, Ace. You're better than this. What happened to you? You used to be somebody. Now, look at you lying in your own vomit, too weak to clean yourself up and to even get up out of bed. You peed yourself, again, didn't you.

Maybe you should get help. Listen, I like you, but not in the way you think or in the way you need. If you want to get some help, maybe rehab and don't have the money, I can help you. I'm loaded. I have more money than I know what to do with.

I just hate seeing you this way drunk and hateful. You need to get hold of yourself and go back to writing quality literature, instead of these shitty little E-books. It's a sickness. It's dragged you down. It's ruined you as a writer.

You need to regain your self-worth. You used to fly planes, model, act in movies, and sing on stage. You use to be a spy and a diplomat or was it a diplomat and a spy?

You need to get away from this place and go outside for a walk. Not now, because it's midnight, but tomorrow morning. Step away from the computer and go out and do something. Okay?

Take care, buddy.

 

[sr71plt]

I'll leave the "creative" lies telling to you, Freddie.

Folks here can check you out for themselves. (And my erotica credentials, for that matter, should they be interested in doing so).

You came in here--day after day--just to stir the shit. Can't take what you give out, can you? Obviously not. That's the sort of little asshat you are.

I happen to agree with you that the "ladies" here conspired to pull you down in the initial contests--because you were just such a raving asshole about everything that they couldn't take your obnoxiousness.

Jutifiable homicide, I think.

(Bet you live with your mother--and sleep in the closet. )

(Bet you leave your fake covers up on your profile here too--just got to try to pretend you have better credentials than you do. Your whole presentation here is an obvious fake--a whiny one at that.)

 

[Boxlicker101]

Does anyone know what the immunity number is for this week?

They are: 8,11,20,33,43,47,49.

You can get the info by going here http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=697144 and clicking on Mersey World

 

[YoursSINSerely]

http://lottery.merseyworld.com/archive/Lott1491.html

Here's the link above to the the April 7 drawing for the immunities.


I have number 20 this year and would like to put it in my BDSM category for Cap Level 1.

I hope Crimson Maiden can read through all the bickering by the boys to get to my little request here.

But, really I have to thank the BFW for bringing up this subject because otherwise I would never had known that I had won an immunity for the week if he hadn't brought it up and made me look deeper for it. Apparently, we do need a watchdog! Go Freddie. If I could have started a thread in this forum, I would have, but I'm locked out. I'm just going to go ahead and put it on my scorecard and hope that we are still using the same lottery balls.

I don't want to take sides on this book publishing crap that Freddie and the Pilot are going through, but I think once a book is published, it's published. It's out there! It's a file, or it's on a piece of paper. You can't take it back. You can't unpublish it. It's forever. It's like saying nasty words to someone you love. You can't take them back. You can be sorry about them, but it's done and over.

Try to plays nice today, boys. My bloodpressure is up, again.

 

[YoursSINSerely]

By the way, not to nitpick, but isn't today, the 9th day of April?

Where's April's immunity post? Does anyone know? I see March is out there. Now if someone has one an immunity last week, too bad. There's no place to post their immunity.

Will the moderator allow the contestant to post his or her immunity anyway, even if it is past the Wednesday deadline because she failed to put April's immunity in place?

I'm here for you, Crim, if you need my help (lol).

Freddie, I just put mine on my scorecard. Thanks for the headsup. Keep up the watchdogging.

 

[sr71plt]

[ but I think once a book is published, it's published. It's out there! It's a file, or it's on a piece of paper. You can't take it back. You can't unpublish it. It's forever. It's like saying nasty words to someone you love. You can't

Oh, really? Perhaps you can point to where you can get one of Freddie's claimed books then.

If there's no book available to back them up, they don't exist, hon.

There are no such books in the list of the claimed book publisher (there's a logo on Freddie's covers--you can find that publisher).

Anyone can take an existing cover (Those covers do exist--for other books by other people--by that publisher) and dummy them up and claim them as theirs.

Freddie's whole life here has been a lie. Why should his claimed publishing history be any different?

It's interesting how you can argue over something that anyone can check out for themselves. They can easily check out the claims as an erotica writer for both of us--including quality. I've got reviews you can trace and read. What has Freddie got other than a big, foul, whiny mouth?

 

[BOSTONFICTIONWRITER]

fucking queer

Oh, really? Perhaps you can point to where you can get one of Freddie's claimed books then.

If there's no book available to back them up, they don't exist, hon.

There are no such books in the list of the claimed book publisher (there's a logo on Freddie's covers--you can find that publisher).

Anyone can take an existing cover (Those covers do exist--for other books by other people--by that publisher) and dummy them up and claim them as theirs.

Freddie's whole life here has been a lie. Why should his claimed publishing history be any different?

It's interesting how you can argue over something that anyone can check out for themselves. They can easily check out the claims as an erotica writer for both of us--including quality. I've got reviews you can trace and read. What has Freddie got other than a big, foul, whiny mouth?

Is there something wrong with you? What don't you understand about me pulling my own books because Erotic Excursions was not trustworthy and forthcoming with their royalty payments?

I tell you what you should do, Ace. Why not write to Erotic Excursions and tell them that, even after I pulled my books, I still show the book covers on Literotica? Or maybe you can just PM Laurel and tell her that I shouldn't show those covers. Who's the whiny ass baby now?

For someone who is so supposedly successful as a writer, you're always here posting? When do you find the time to write your gay stories?

For a writer who is supposedly so big, you're really so small, aren't you?

You need to get a life, other than the one you made up about you being a successful writer, a super sonic pilot, a spy, a diplomat, a model, a singer, and an actor. Did I leave anything out?

Who's lying now? At least what I write is creative fiction. What you write is childess and lies. All you continue to write about are those book covers.

I apologize if I don't want to write E-books and I'm happy for you that you've found your little niche in writing E-books. Now fuck off, you little fag.

 

[sr71plt]

Is there something wrong with you? What don't you understand about me pulling my own books because Erotic Excursions was not trustworthy and forthcoming with their royalty payments?

Naw, it's all just part of the fake and whiny you.