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TheEarl said:It's actually quite interesting to find out exactly what you are. I'm probably unique in the AH in the fact that all of my ancestors for the last 300 years came from the same country. They obviously knew better than to mingle with that foreign scum.
Yep, as I said 'inbred.' You come from a very shallow gene pool, Earl. Even the Royal family has a wider base of ancenstry than you.
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Some of the ultra-conservative religious groups are so restrictive about whom they may marry, that by now, you would barely guess that originally, they had started out as human beings. 
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Where the hell did I put my sidecurls?
I've mentioned before that I've never encountered anyone else with my ethnic background. I'm a Jewkie. Half Jewish, half Okie. My grandmother was the only one of a large French Jewish family to survive the Holocaust. Went to Palestine, married my grandpa, and they came to the US. Dad is just one of a large fambly of Okies from Texas. They came to California in the Dust Bowl migration of the thirties. "Okie," by the way, is not a description of where people come from. It's a state of mind. White trash.
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I've mentioned before that I've never encountered anyone else with my ethnic background. I'm a Jewkie. Half Jewish, half Okie. My grandmother was the only one of a large French Jewish family to survive the Holocaust. Went to Palestine, married my grandpa, and they came to the US. Dad is just one of a large fambly of Okies from Texas. They came to California in the Dust Bowl migration of the thirties. "Okie," by the way, is not a description of where people come from. It's a state of mind. White trash.
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MG,
My kids come pretty close to your mixture. Using your normenclature, maybe they'd be calle "Hebianas" Their mother is a born and bred New York Jew (easter European) and their old man got both his birthin' and rearin' in red neck north Louisiana.
The only real genealogical distinction my kids have is that on my side there's a relative who was held in a British POW camp during the American Revolution while on their mother's side, they have relatives who died in concentration camps during the Holocaust.
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My kids come pretty close to your mixture. Using your normenclature, maybe they'd be calle "Hebianas" Their mother is a born and bred New York Jew (easter European) and their old man got both his birthin' and rearin' in red neck north Louisiana.
The only real genealogical distinction my kids have is that on my side there's a relative who was held in a British POW camp during the American Revolution while on their mother's side, they have relatives who died in concentration camps during the Holocaust.
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TheEarl said:I'm probably unique in the AH in the fact that all of my ancestors for the last 300 years came from the same country. They obviously knew better than to mingle with that foreign scum
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Yorkshire from the 'Beaker folk*' onwards.
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* Circa 2500BC (Beaker folk named for their pottery, something from which to drink their, new-to-Britain, alchohol.
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gauchecritic said:
Is THAT why
I always thought it had something to do with their prominent proboscis.
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Don't forget, you're also at least a Semi-Shiksa. Maybe that makes you a semi-semite-shiksa. You're also like my kids in that your mother is Jewish so you're "legally" Jewish. The first time I heard that term, I asked the speaker how someone could be "illegally" Jewish. They just gave me this strange look.
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Dear Rumple,Rumple Foreskin said:
It just means that I'm Jewish as far as Jews are concerned. I don't think they're all that choosy. If I wanted to be Jewish, go to temple, and that stuff, I'd be accepted. I've never been inside one of those places, and doubt that I'll ever do so. As far as I'm conerned, my mother's fambly just happened to come from France.
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Let's see...on my dad's dad's side, Swedes...there's a mess of Andersons, Thorsons (my maiden name) Johnsons, Magnussons, etc. on that side; in fact (as I have mentioned in the past) the furthest my family on that side has been traced to is Thor Jonssen (a discussion resulted from the seemingly Danish spelling) of Horby (with an umlaut over the o) in Sweden, who emigrated to America sometime in the 1800s--some time before the Swedish government decreed that everyone was stuck with the last name they had. Otherwise I should have come up with the last name of Halsdottir, I suppose.
My grandmother on that side's name was Stewart, an variation of Stuart, of course--that and $4.50 will, I imagine, get you a shot of house Scotch. Not much is known about her.
On my mother's side, a melange of Scottish, Scotch-Irish ("damn little Irish," my mother was always quick to say) and German Jew. My maternal grandmother didn't like her family much, and didn't offer much info about it.
I have tried, with varying degrees of success, to introduce more exotic blood into the family, but whether it's going to continue is anyone's guess.
My grandmother on that side's name was Stewart, an variation of Stuart, of course--that and $4.50 will, I imagine, get you a shot of house Scotch. Not much is known about her.
On my mother's side, a melange of Scottish, Scotch-Irish ("damn little Irish," my mother was always quick to say) and German Jew. My maternal grandmother didn't like her family much, and didn't offer much info about it.
I have tried, with varying degrees of success, to introduce more exotic blood into the family, but whether it's going to continue is anyone's guess.
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MathGirl,
You and I are paddling in the same direction on that subject. It just always struck me as sounding odd, since to my warped mind, if some folks are "legally Jewish" there must be others, such as Barry Goldwater, must be "illegally Jewish".
It reminded me of people saying someone was "legally blind". To my way of thinking, that seemed to indicate other poor souls must be "illegally blind" or even "illegally sighted."
But maybe being "legally Jewish" could help in your campaign for governor of CA. When you debate Big A, shake your finger at him and shout, "I'm legally Jewish! What about you?" And before he can recover from that assault, hit him with, "Tell us the truth, do you still masticate in public?"
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You and I are paddling in the same direction on that subject. It just always struck me as sounding odd, since to my warped mind, if some folks are "legally Jewish" there must be others, such as Barry Goldwater, must be "illegally Jewish".
It reminded me of people saying someone was "legally blind". To my way of thinking, that seemed to indicate other poor souls must be "illegally blind" or even "illegally sighted."
But maybe being "legally Jewish" could help in your campaign for governor of CA. When you debate Big A, shake your finger at him and shout, "I'm legally Jewish! What about you?" And before he can recover from that assault, hit him with, "Tell us the truth, do you still masticate in public?"
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Mine is definately mutt short haired, itchy, scratchy. I'm a German Jew from my mother and a Frenchman from my Father's side. But his side is really a little more complecated. French, Welch, English. You haven't lived till you hear a Brooklyn, French, Yiddish, melodic, clipped accent.
I am a people watcher too. I like to guess a person's heritage (all of which are richly emroidered with wonderful stories if you can get them to tell) based on their looks and their accent. There is a cute girl on the board from Sweden with black hair and an oval face that could probably tell a story about the people who were there before the Diaspora drove the blue-eyed, blond hair, children of Dan to the far north.
I am a people watcher too. I like to guess a person's heritage (all of which are richly emroidered with wonderful stories if you can get them to tell) based on their looks and their accent. There is a cute girl on the board from Sweden with black hair and an oval face that could probably tell a story about the people who were there before the Diaspora drove the blue-eyed, blond hair, children of Dan to the far north.
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Hon, when did bugs get involved?
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Sounds like old Gaspode and ffreak are look-alikes. RFMathGirl said:
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Takes my place with the other American mutts.
My last name is English, but those ancestors actually came from France with old Bill the Conqueror. I'm really mainly German, French and Irish with a splash of Penobscott Indian courtesy of a great-great grandmother. We have huge, long family trees that go back to Moses or there abouts (I have Morman relatives who really get into that stuff) but all they prove is how boring and truely mediocre my family has always been.
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My last name is English, but those ancestors actually came from France with old Bill the Conqueror. I'm really mainly German, French and Irish with a splash of Penobscott Indian courtesy of a great-great grandmother. We have huge, long family trees that go back to Moses or there abouts
(I have Morman relatives who really get into that stuff) but all they prove is how boring and truely mediocre my family has always been.Jayne
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Welsh heredity
When I was young and lived in Caer Gybi I was fascinated to learn that my elderly next door neighbour was called Tommy Thrice. His name was Thomas Thomas Thomas and he was born about 1870.
As a four year old that seemed a nice name to have. One day Tommy Thrice explained that Thomas Thomas Thomas wasn't his full name. He was Thomas ap Thomas ap Thomas almost ad infinitum. "ap" meant "son of".
Every birthday the family would recite the full name of the happy celebrant. The full name included the whole ancestry back to Noah (or rather the Welsh equivalent because they had their own Flood myth) and each "Thomas" had an identifier to distinguish him from the others.
So Tommy Thrice's real name in full gave his ancestry and went something like this:
Thomas the Boiler (He had been a boiler maker) ap Thomas the Wheelwright ap Thomas the Farrier ap Thomas the older Farrier ap Thomas the useless Blacksmith (that was said very quietly) ap Thomas the soldier for the English - and so on.
The Welsh knew their ancestry because it was detailed in their full formal name which they only abbreviated to suit the paperwork devised by the Saxon rulers.
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When I was young and lived in Caer Gybi I was fascinated to learn that my elderly next door neighbour was called Tommy Thrice. His name was Thomas Thomas Thomas and he was born about 1870.
As a four year old that seemed a nice name to have. One day Tommy Thrice explained that Thomas Thomas Thomas wasn't his full name. He was Thomas ap Thomas ap Thomas almost ad infinitum. "ap" meant "son of".
Every birthday the family would recite the full name of the happy celebrant. The full name included the whole ancestry back to Noah (or rather the Welsh equivalent because they had their own Flood myth) and each "Thomas" had an identifier to distinguish him from the others.
So Tommy Thrice's real name in full gave his ancestry and went something like this:
Thomas the Boiler (He had been a boiler maker) ap Thomas the Wheelwright ap Thomas the Farrier ap Thomas the older Farrier ap Thomas the useless Blacksmith (that was said very quietly) ap Thomas the soldier for the English - and so on.
The Welsh knew their ancestry because it was detailed in their full formal name which they only abbreviated to suit the paperwork devised by the Saxon rulers.
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Blimey, I bet the cake was covered in wax by the time they'd finished reciting his full name.
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Blimey, I bet the cake was covered in wax by the time they'd finished reciting his full name.
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That's funny... I'm a Swede. Mum's into geneaoleougy... researching about one's family tree. She's traced our family back to the 1700-something-something, and we're all Swedes. On my mother's side, that is. As for my dad's side of the family, I only know that as far back as grandma can remember, we've been Swedes there, too. (Then again, her memory started in the 1920'ies, so, it doesn't say very much...)
BUT, this one time, when I was showing my photo album to a friend of mine, I pointed out me, mum, dad, my cousin, etc, and my friend interrupts me, pointing at the photo of my dad:
"Is your father a TURK???"
Dad has dark brown hair, and working outdoors a lot makes him very tanned in the summer. He did look like a Turk on that photo. Funny, considering that he's a racist. Whenever he says something evil about my Hubby, I suck on the memory of my friend mistaking my dad for a Turk, as if the memory had been a piece of candy.
A lot of my relatives emigrated in the mid 1800. Today, I have relatives in USA, Canada, and Brazil. We even have a street named after our family down in Brazil.
BUT, this one time, when I was showing my photo album to a friend of mine, I pointed out me, mum, dad, my cousin, etc, and my friend interrupts me, pointing at the photo of my dad:
"Is your father a TURK???"
Dad has dark brown hair, and working outdoors a lot makes him very tanned in the summer. He did look like a Turk on that photo. Funny, considering that he's a racist. Whenever he says something evil about my Hubby, I suck on the memory of my friend mistaking my dad for a Turk, as if the memory had been a piece of candy.
A lot of my relatives emigrated in the mid 1800. Today, I have relatives in USA, Canada, and Brazil. We even have a street named after our family down in Brazil.
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Re: Re: Welsh heredity
It took a couple of hours and the whole family had to be present because except for the last name(s) the children and grandchildren shared all of it.
You can imagine that the extended family reciting in from memory with a resounding Welsh lilt was an impressive exercise.
Tommy Thrice wasn't unusual. In rural Wales that sort of ritual was common until the 1950s - for every family. It was an affirmation of the family identity and their Welshness.
Any English or Scots settling in Wales would never become Welsh. They didn't have the right ancestry. However if there was a Welsh ancestor somewhere in your past then you could become accepted once the precise position of your relationship had been worked out. That would give you a new Welsh name that sounded odd e.g.
Brian ap Michael ap James ap William who married Bronwen the second daughter of Thomas the miller of Llanfair ap ...
Weird, the Welsh.
Og (who could be part of the Welsh Olympic team because he was born in Wales but could never be Welsh because he hasn't any Welsh ancestors)
Tatelou said:Blimey, I bet the cake was covered in wax by the time they'd finished reciting his full name.
Lou
It took a couple of hours and the whole family had to be present because except for the last name(s) the children and grandchildren shared all of it.
You can imagine that the extended family reciting in from memory with a resounding Welsh lilt was an impressive exercise.
Tommy Thrice wasn't unusual. In rural Wales that sort of ritual was common until the 1950s - for every family. It was an affirmation of the family identity and their Welshness.
Any English or Scots settling in Wales would never become Welsh. They didn't have the right ancestry. However if there was a Welsh ancestor somewhere in your past then you could become accepted once the precise position of your relationship had been worked out. That would give you a new Welsh name that sounded odd e.g.
Brian ap Michael ap James ap William who married Bronwen the second daughter of Thomas the miller of Llanfair ap ...
Weird, the Welsh.
Og (who could be part of the Welsh Olympic team because he was born in Wales but could never be Welsh because he hasn't any Welsh ancestors)
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