Are you a mattress master?

[Shadowsdream]

Eb

I think that the subject of Mattress Mistresses needs to be in the head lights of conversations more often. They are a danger to submissives who run into them as a first real time experience. It is not unusual to have them come to My ICQ looking for TRICKS to Dominate...Ya right Bimbo is My response.

It is irksome that the subs take all the heat for being (in other words) players. it is pretty 50/50 in the real world.

 

[Ebonyfire]

Eb

I think that the subject of Mattress Mistresses needs to be in the head lights of conversations more often. They are a danger to submissives who run into them as a first real time experience. It is not unusual to have them come to My ICQ looking for TRICKS to Dominate...Ya right Bimbo is My response.

It is irksome that the subs take all the heat for being (in other words) players. it is pretty 50/50 in the real world.

Or those Money Dommes. You know the ones who set up Yahoo clubs and tell subs to kneel dog and send me tribute, and I might talk to you.

I actually have had male subs ask me how much I charge to a) talk to them, b) train them, c) own them.

It is appalling.

Eb

 

[Shadowsdream]

How about

*give Me love!*

and pay conveniently with pay pal?

 

[Hecate]

Or those Money Dommes. You know the ones who set up Yahoo clubs and tell subs to kneel dog and send me tribute, and I might talk to you.

I actually have had male subs ask me how much I charge to a) talk to them, b) train them, c) own them.

It is appalling.

Eb

Dangnabit - I KNEW I was doing something wrong .... does anyone know how to accept credit cards?
You see, there is that cute little leather outfit I wanted and ...

You kidding Eb - I could charge them for just TALKING to them? Talk of naive and truely believing in some kind of honour system for this Lady *shaking head* ..

OK Merelan, did you hear that? I shall from now on forth charge you for the pleasure of talking to me ... say... gazillions of snuggles for each word?

On a side tangent - you think that is a mainly Domme/male sub thing? Would it be more the sexual exploitation for Dom/female sub instead of money and work?

 

[Hecate]

How about

*give Me love!*

and pay conveniently with pay pal?

*lol*

You can come play pal - if you use pay pal !

 

[P. B. Walker]

Or those Money Dommes. You know the ones who set up Yahoo clubs and tell subs to kneel dog and send me tribute, and I might talk to you.

I actually have had male subs ask me how much I charge to a) talk to them, b) train them, c) own them.

It is appalling.

Eb

Dommes like that make me ill.... and the subbies that put up with it do too. I saw an ad in adultfriendfinder for a Money Sub. Gawd... how blatant is that? I almost emailed her just to give her a piece of my mind, but it wasn't worth my time and effort. Besides, she was probably a fake (i.e., a guy having a good joke).

PBW "No, no no! I won't pay you to spank my ass!"

 

[Shadowsdream]

Dangnabit - I KNEW I was doing something wrong .... does anyone know how to accept credit cards?
You see, there is that cute little leather outfit I wanted and ...

You kidding Eb - I could charge them for just TALKING to them? Talk of naive and truely believing in some kind of honour system for this Lady *shaking head* ..

OK Merelan, did you hear that? I shall from now on forth charge you for the pleasure of talking to me ... say... gazillions of snuggles for each word?

On a side tangent - you think that is a mainly Domme/male sub thing? Would it be more the sexual exploitation for Dom/female sub instead of money and work?

I would say it is mostly a Domme/male sub scenerio in all instances when We are talking financial or gift gain. Generally a Dom/fem sub thing when it is preDominantly sexual or cleaning up the pig pens.

In both cases it is hard to believe that the Dom or Domme is authentic.

I am not talking about ProDommes here as that is open and honest. Money given service recieved.

 

[Ebonyfire]

hell yeah!

I would say it is mostly a Domme/male sub scenerio in all instances when We are talking financial or gift gain. Generally a Dom/fem sub thing when it is preDominantly sexual or cleaning up the pig pens.

In both cases it is hard to believe that the Dom or Domme is authentic.

I am not talking about ProDommes here as that is open and honest. Money given service recieved.

They send them money just on the hope that the so called Domme with give them the time of day. they do not do any scenes or anything.

Eb

 

[Ebonyfire]

Re: hell yeah!

They send them money just on the hope that the so called Domme with give them the time of day. they do not do any scenes or anything.

Eb

These are not ProDommes.

Eb

 

[Ebonyfire]

Dommes/males & Dom/femsub

Yes. Male subs understand the concept of money for service. So they do not find it odd that a Domme will ask for "tribute".

In the case of the money Dommes, they "milk the cow" by getting progressively more money and/or lavish gifts in return for diry panties and worn stockings over time. Not enough to satisfy, but just enough to keep the tribute rolling in.

Femsubs are more easily enslaved by sex and romance.

Eb

 

[Ebonyfire]

Dommes like that make me ill.... and the subbies that put up with it do too. I saw an ad in adultfriendfinder for a Money Sub. Gawd... how blatant is that? I almost emailed her just to give her a piece of my mind, but it wasn't worth my time and effort. Besides, she was probably a fake (i.e., a guy having a good joke).

PBW "No, no no! I won't pay you to spank my ass!"

They are not Dommes. And manyof the guys who fall for them are not subs, they are fetishists.
Eb

 

[Shadowsdream]

Re: Dommes/males & Dom/femsub

Yes. Male subs understand the concept of money for service. So they do not find it odd that a Domme will ask for "tribute".

In the case of the money Dommes, they "milk the cow" by getting progressively more money and/or lavish gifts in return for diry panties and worn stockings over time. Not enough to satisfy, but just enough to keep the tribute rolling in.

Femsubs are more easily enslaved by sex and romance.

Eb

Applauding!

 

[Hecate]

So let me sum this up ...

If I am really clever, I get my appartment cleaned and am being paid for it?

Now that sounds like a cool concept!

~ ooops - where did that come rom? Must be in my marketing mode right now ~

Eb, I think you are spot on with the fetishism! Even in many submissives that contact me, there is so much emphasis on certain little kinks that I can not see them as submissives, but basically they are attracted to the fetisch clichee of a Domme.

They are more into the boot licking or the masochism stuff than into anything even remotely close to heartfelt submission. Actually now that I think about it ... nothing wrong with someone catering obviously for those "needs" I guess.

Actually - oh my, another male/female question hit me - is that kind of fetish-inclination again a more Domme / male sub thing? I just simply can not imagine any woman to send money for worn briefs or boxers...

 

[P. B. Walker]

Re: So let me sum this up ...

Actually - oh my, another male/female question hit me - is that kind of fetish-inclination again a more Domme / male sub thing? I just simply can not imagine any woman to send money for worn briefs or boxers...

Mmmm well I have a tad bit of experience with this... not with women paying for my boxers, but with them either requesting them to be sent or actually outright stealing them after a night of uhmm.. passion. Of course, this was in vanilla relationships... well one of them we engaged in some B/D type activities.

What is it with men's boxers ladies??? LOL. And it seems they only want your *favorite* pair too...

PBW "Step away from the boxers ma'am!"

 

[Ebonyfire]

Re: Re: So let me sum this up ...

Mmmm well I have a tad bit of experience with this... not with women paying for my boxers, but with them either requesting them to be sent or actually outright stealing them after a night of uhmm.. passion. Of course, this was in vanilla relationships... well one of them we engaged in some B/D type activities.

What is it with men's boxers ladies??? LOL. And it seems they only want your *favorite* pair too...

PBW "Step away from the boxers ma'am!"

I have a pair of my sissy's boxers. But that is because I made him trade them for a pairof pink silk panties at a fetish club.

Eb

 

[Ebonyfire]

Re: So let me sum this up ...

Actually - oh my, another male/female question hit me - is that kind of fetish-inclination again a more Domme / male sub thing? I just simply can not imagine any woman to send money for worn briefs or boxers...

I believe that both sexes may eroticize objects, but the majority of fetishists may be men.

I know a woman who has a fetish for feces. I have a young friend who goes over her house and she has him poop on her body. He does it cause she give good BJs. He told me that over time he likes the fact that she like to see it come out. but it icks him when she wants to play with it.

Different strokes...

Eb<hoping no one was eating..>

 

[Desdemona]

Des

your place is waiting...It is a good thing that I have so much equipment. The cute little see through french maids uniform with that naked butt wiggling across My floor...O did I mention I would be walking by to torment you with the finger vibrator to the clit now and then?

hmmmm, sounds like delicious torment to me.

On a serious note, I think Eb is right about femsubs being easily enslaved by romance and sex. That is a potent combination and hard to resist for some. It takes a fair amount of mental effort to redirect conversations to safer ground and really get to know a prospective dominant over time so that reasonable decisions may be made.

 

[artful]

Re: So let me sum this up ...

catering obviously for those "needs" I guess.
I just simply can not imagine any woman to send money for worn briefs or boxers...

Ok, ok, ok,...Yes,...I sell used Tommy GUNNED briefs,...$50.00 a set.

NO C.O.D.'s-Please mail check or money order payable to Art(in-the-bag)ful at:

Artful.com
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(Please allow 6 to 8 months for delivery)

P.S.-order (3) sets and Art will pay the postage.

 

[Ebonyfire]

Re: Re: So let me sum this up ...

Ok, ok, ok,...Yes,...I sell used Tommy GUNNED briefs,...$50.00 a set.

NO C.O.D.'s-Please mail check or money order payable to Art(in-the-bag)ful at:

Artful.com
Rear ALL Route #1
BDSM Forum
Literotica, U.S.A.-12345

(Please allow 6 to 8 months for delivery)

P.S.-order (3) sets and Art will pay the postage.

The check is in the mail.

Eb

 

[artful]

Re: Re: Re: So let me sum this up ...

The check is in the mail.

Eb

So should I start waiting for the mailman to arrive,...like maybe Thursday Sis?

 

[Shadowsdream]

hmmmm, sounds like delicious torment to me.

On a serious note, I think Eb is right about femsubs being easily enslaved by romance and sex. That is a potent combination and hard to resist for some. It takes a fair amount of mental effort to redirect conversations to safer ground and really get to know a prospective dominant over time so that reasonable decisions may be made.

I agree wholeheartedly with you both. Romanticizm is potent to femsubs and so very often a big turn off to male subs in the beginning of a BDSM exploration.

 

[Ebonyfire]

Re: Re: Re: Re: So let me sum this up ...

So should I start waiting for the mailman to arrive,...like maybe Thursday Sis?

At least. Jimmy Hoffa will bring it personally to your door. Elvis is driving!