Breath play

Richard49 said:
I keep reading these posts
like the one from Bunny about the towel
and I get very horny
very

I also get very lonely/sad and nostilgic (sp).
 
well, back at popular demand, is the retelling of my daily adventures (well, ones that are relevant to the thread)

as i was leaving His apartment today, i heard the most distinctive noise behind me. i didn't even have to look to know that He had just doubled up His belt and snapped it. i froze where i stood, halfway to the door. He has LOTS of grading to do, and i was going on my merry way to let Him get some work done. He, however, had other plans. the loud snap sounded through the kitchen again, and i slowly turned around. He stood right behind me, belt in hand. i looked at Him questioningly - i knew He had to get work done but it was clear that He wasn't ready for me to go just yet. in a flash, He threw the belt around my neck and crossed it in front of my throat. the choking sensation was instant, and i was immediatly robbed of breath. He led me forcefully from the kitchen back into the den by the belt cinched around my neck. once we were back to carpeted floor, He pulled downward on the belt, sending me toppling to my knees. still using His hold on the belt, He pulled my face to his cock. He finally let the belt fall to the floor as i unbuttoned His pants and pulled his ample member free. i began eagerly sucking him off, listening to His whispered vulgarities and specific commands. i just love giving head like this! it ended with the warm splash of His cum on my chest and a deep kiss. we always have the best time together!

*edited for typos
 
Edge play including breath play

https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74061&highlight=edge


Thuis thread had some discussion about breath play and edge play in general.

It did get heated and unpleasant at times but that is just by play to the main topic. Wade through the bullshit to mine the information.

I have played this way and it scares the fuck out of me. Not much else to say except I am as puzzeled as you!

H:confused:

PS willfulbrat was the unregistered poster here. She does not post any more but you coulkd try a PM or e-mail as she is very knowledgable and a real nice person.
Harry
 
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bunny bondage said:
well, back at popular demand, is the retelling of my daily adventures (well, ones that are relevant to the thread)
Very impressive Bunny. I think this deserves an 'A'.
 
I am replying to you for 2 reasons.

1) being my head says the same thing to me all the time. When i think of all the turn ons i have I sit back and go wow you are one crazy chick.

2)I have done some play before. From the hand around the neck too be into the the hard core oral sex...
the lack of air during a sexual experience has to be my biggest turn on.
I would say take your time with trying this out more. I feel that eye contact is the best way to do it... If you trust your partner i say do little by little.
Enjoy and remember having fun is the key
 
breath play

my Master and i "dabble" in a bit of breath play...seems kind of wrong to call it "play" as there's nothing playful about it (and many other things we do in the lifestyle, but i digress). my Master often pinches my nose while i'm sucking his cock until i begin to get lightheaded, or covers my head with a pillow while fucking me and presses down on it so that i either can't breathe or must struggle for air. once he has strangled me with his hands to the point of me losing consciousness. that made him a bit nervous, but he quickly saw that i was fine. we'd like to explore breath restriction further, we are particularly interested in hanging (by the neck), and of course i love anything involving my Master's hands. but we are moving very slowly. you can never be too careful with this sort of "play".
 
Pool wrestling...

A while back, a buddy (and me) dared my wife to swim topless...
She went one better, removing her bottoms too...
Then DARED us to do the same!
He and her did a little truth and dare...
ALL of it underwater!
She came up... gasping... he surfaced behind her... placed his hands on her head, submerging both!!
I thought I better put a stop to this and dove down.
Just under the surface I found her sucking his cock... eyes wide open... LOVING IT!!!
Up we came, her and him laughing...
Then... they both turned on me...
 
I have one now (malesub) that has expressed an interest and I have had one in the past.

I have some medical background and can't say that I think it is safe.

Pinching the nose short-term or smothering/facesitting is as far as I am comfortable - and since I'm the Domme - what I say goes in this regard.:)

:rose:
 
"Smothering" ought to be defined some way or other, because an object over the face is potentially one of the least safe ways to play; you can't see the submissive's face to know when they are losing consciousness. Pillows are generally porous enough that air can still flow, but if you want to cover the mouth and nose with anything denser, please make sure you can still see their eyes. Though that takes away the fun of air deprivation while blindfolded....damn, there's no way to win in this situation. Stupid mortal body of mine. :rolleyes:

We've done it. We will probably continue to do it, but certainly not as often after having read all of this. It's easy to hear of statistical people dying from air-deprivation-related events, but to hear someone who KNOWS not just one but three people dead from such actions....well, let's just say it brought the reality closer to home for me. I don't want T to end up jailed and traumatized for being partly responsible for my death. I also don't want to be a veggie.
 
Breath play is extremely dangerous, but I guess theirin lies the attraction. I've been doing it all my life, initially not knowing that I was. I started holding my breath right before orgasm because it made it more intense. Since then, I've scared the shit out of myself too many times to play quite that rough.
One thing I haven't heard mentioned yet that's lots of fun, and only moderately life threatening is sharing breath in a kiss. Like all things sexual, it takes a while to get the proper rythm, but it can be very effective.
My general rule is I don't play those games without BOTH parties being recently certified in CPR. Anything less is stupidity.
 
Re: Femsub vs. malessub

Ebonyfire said:
I think that breath play is a femsub thing. I have yet to meet a malesub who considered it at all. All I have met have it as a hard limit. Which is good, cause it does not interest Me in the least. I have talked to other female Dommes with malesubs, and they have not met any either.

I wonder if there are any Dommes here who have male subs who have expressed an interest in this play.

None of mine are into it as an erotic outlet, although one of mine is a judo jock and has been repeatedly choked out doing that.

I do, however, know a lot of msubs with Masters who are into that scene. So maybe it's a Male Dom thing?

*grin*
 
The only "breath play" I've done was the 'rescue breathing' or 'CPR breathing' that's been described. Given that both of us were recently trained as First Responders (just below EMT), it was a fun application of our first aid skills. We never did it to the point of hypoxia though, usually only a couple of breaths.

The distinction between air choking and blood choking is important. Performed CORRECTLY, a choke-hold cuts off bloodflow to the brain, causing unconciousness in as little as 3 seconds. The risk of damaging the neck is, comparatively, low. Air chokes, often the result of poorly executed choke-holds or objects across the throat, interfere with the (very fragile) trachea, and by extension, the larynx. Damage to the neck is a very real possibility. It also takes much longer to induce unconciousness, 30seconds - 2+minutes. (Think about how long you can hold your breath.)
 
bunny bondage said:
as for the experience itself - it is EXHILERATING. first, there's the sensation of tightness around my throat, and that panic that makes me want to fight him off. but that's easily overcome and after a while i could just immediatly relax against the choke. it's kind of hard to describe what happens next, but it's sort of like a headrush from when you stand up to fast. i lose vision, and sensation in my body. right before i black out completly, i am aware of my hands feebly flinging themselves at his arms - that last instinctual effort of survival. and then i'm asleep. he always continued pumping into me while this happened, and it was never long at all (like a few seconds) before i woke back up. this is also a nearly indescribable pleasure. as i slowly became aware of my body again, the only thing i could feel was this intensly overwhelming eroticism of sex. i guess it would be like actually waking up in the morning to discover that you're being made love to fierociously.

I much agree with you. I have only done this type of play with one other person. And oh god it's been two years, but I don't trust anyone like I trusted him with that particular play. Bondage bunny described it quite well. I would look up into his eyes as he pulled me close and then his fingers would start their pressure. You kind of have this moment of panic because you know your loosing control of the situation and of yourself. It's this heightened sensation and then thing slowly start to go numb. I kept trying to focus on him but then my head would start spinning and it felt like to was floating away from my body. Thet’s when my eyes would start rolling back in my head. He never let me fully go unconscious, he always told me it was too close if I went unconscious. But then he would let his hands go from around my throat and pull me to him and it all started rushing back. It's like your whole body was asleep and then all of a sudden all of this sensation all at once. it's absolutely amazing.

I personally have had nothing but good experiences with this type of play. But I will say it is incredibly dangerous. I had a friend in high school who died when he tied a chain around his neck hooked it to the window of his bed room and started to masturbate, using the chain for the breath play. He would have been fine except in the mists of all of this he had a seizure and passed out and hung himself on the chain.
 
1. my god it's frustrating when people switch bunnybondage's name to bondage bunny because i'm bondagebunni and it's way too similar that way....not to mention i have accounts elsewhere spelled like that and it confused me to no end.

2.recently started doing this sort of stuff. mostly just a hand around my neck with just a little pressure so i could still breathe but only shallow breaths...and not very long either. and sometimes he'll pinch my nose and cover my mouth to restrict air flow...but never for longer that a few seconds. if i start moving my head around trying to get away he always lets go. i don't think i realized much of the danger of it before but now i guess i see how it could be VERY risky...and i know now that i'll never do it with anyone new...only those i've known for a very long time.

3. i hate the stereotyping of femsubs and malesubs. in half the threads i read there's always a "this must be unique to malesubs" or "this is only something femsubs like" and it drives me crazy because it's a stupid stereotype that people need to get over. i mean saying "from my experience..." yeah, that's ok...but just saying "it must be unique to this gender of submissives" drives me insane because there is no way you could have that much experience as to know that statistically all are one way. Am i the only one who gets pissed about that? (i know that was kind of off topic but i saw a "this must be a femsub thing" and i had to say something about it)

4.good thread, very insightful, thanks for informing me of the dangers as i never thought it was quite as serious as death causing...but then again i don't play that hard...
 
Bondagebunni said:
1. my god it's frustrating when people switch bunnybondage's name to bondage bunny because i'm bondagebunni and it's way too similar that way....

I am so sorry bunny bondage and Bondagebunni. Don't let it frustrate you so Bondagebunni, just extra stress and who wants that.
 
Re: breath play (I think)

drakesweyr said:
This is a subject of much discussion in the small circle I associate with. My wife and I have practiced a different application of this kind of play, and while admittedly dangerous, it is very stimulating to both body and mind. Let it be known that I am not a medical professional, and while my wife has extensive training and experience in medical practices she is not a doctor. The proceedure I am about to descibe is a trick of bloodflow I discovered in middle school and have played with infrequently ever since. This has NOT been proven safe, and should not be attempted unless You are comfortable with it (i.e., don't try this at home.)
;)
First, this requires two people, and cannot be accomplished in any semblance of safety without a partner. The subject (the person who will be subjected to the proceedure) must stand with feet shoulder width apart, place the left hand on the right shoulder, the right hand on the left shoulder, and bend at the waist until the head and neck hang loosely near the ankles. Your partner should stand comfortably behind you (and should be capable of holding your entire body weight for at least a short time). While bent over, take ten deep slow breaths at a steady measured pace. After exhaling the tenth breath, breath in deeply and quickly for an eleventh breath and hold onto that breath with your last conscious thought while you bend at the waist again to stand straight up. As you stand straight, your partner wraps his/her arms tightly around you chest and applies firm even pressure (pressing in about a half inch) on the sternum. Your partner must hold tightly, and you must not breathe out! If all goes as planned (as it has for me many times in the past) you will lose consciousness while still on your feet (with your partner still holding you) for about 60 seconds and go into a dream state, but wake with perfect clarity in short order. When you lose consciousness you will exhale automatically (and humorously). This will be the cue to your partner to release the pressure on your chest IMMEDIATELY, and lie you down in a comfortable place to wake. You will be disoriented for about 30 seconds after waking so be prepared, or at least prepare your partner for this. This disorientation can be used as an abrupt beginning to scenes such as fantasy rape, kidnapping, etc. (I have found it useful as such, and also as a spectacular end to any sexual escapade if the partners are positioned right).
Again, I emphasize that I am not a medical professional, and this has NOT been proven safe. I strongly recommend that one does not participate in this type of activity if the subject has any history or suspicion of heart or lungs problems of any kind. I have personally experienced both roles in this most unusal of pairings, and find it to be very erotic. The feeling for the subject is very close to that of asphyxiation, but there is no restriction of air passages.
I hope this has enlighted someone.


Yes, i experienced this very thing many times some years back now. It was a very interesting feeling to say the least but one time i had what was later described to me as being like an epilectic (sp?) fit whilst unconscious and when i regained consciousness i was surrounded by the group i was with all with extremely worried expressions on their faces. They had not known what to do. As a result of this, i went on to have further unexplained "fits" at quite unexpected times for about a year. my parents ended up sending me to doctors and psychiatrists and i had all sorts of tests to try and explain what was going on. They never came to any conclusion. i was way too scared to tell them what i had been participating in. Ahh, the foolishness of my youth!

i'm pleased to say that i'm fine now and have been for many many years. It has left neither any physical or intellectual damage thank goodness but i'm not so keen on doing it again.

On a different note altogether, i, like psibzerker, also hold my breath just before orgasm. It does intensify it for me incredibly. That practice i will continue to do as it feels amazing!!! :)
 
Just wanted to add.......

i should also say that i had no previous medical history nor even any hint that i would have fits as a result of this practice but it only goes to show that anything can happen to anyone when you play like this.

So my only advice would be to make sure the people or partner you do this with knows something about first aid/resuscitation before you even consider it........better to be safe than sorry.

:)
 
The risks of choking are inumerable. In addition to the aformentioned threat of damaging the glottis, or trachia (Depending on how high you go), and brain damage from lack of oxygen, there have been recorded cases of hypoxia induced myocardial infarction. In plain english, the constriction of blood flow, and general dizzyness that kicks it up a notch can cause a heart attack in secconds.
Now, I actually have some seccond hand experience with this, fortunately not fatal. I had some freinds who where getting into the gasper bit, and he went into cardiack arrest "Almost immediately". She told me later that she could feel the pulse going ape shit under her fingers, and stopped. He still had to go to the hospital, and get checked out. For refferance purposes, he was in his early twenties, had no history of heart problems, and has had no problems with his blood pump since. He's also given up playing with air in the sack. I don't blame him.
 
RainCrow said:
I am so sorry bunny bondage and Bondagebunni. Don't let it frustrate you so Bondagebunni, just extra stress and who wants that.

i'm ocd...my LIFE is extra stress...just needed to get that out ^^;; sorry if it sounded like i was having a fit over here.i was just frustrated.

edit(for relevance and trying not to hijack the thread or clog it): What's hypoxia? that's one i haven't really heard of...
 
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I love nothing better than to feel my lover's hands around my neck:eek: :D but I had a really bad experience that prompted me not to try it again with the same intensity, he did it only because I wanted to see how far I could go it got to the point where I nearly blacked out not to mention I had a terrible SINUS headache for over 2 wks:( so that's why I don't do it anymore...
 
Bondagebunni said:
i'm ocd...my LIFE is extra stress...just needed to get that out ^^;; sorry if it sounded like i was having a fit over here.i was just frustrated.

edit(for relevance and trying not to hijack the thread or clog it): What's hypoxia? that's one i haven't really heard of...

Hypoxia, my dear, is what this thread is all about. Lack of oxygen to the brain, heart, etc. What makes you lose consciousness, feel spacey, potentially have a heart attack, and ultimately die.

While I have great respect for everyone's kink, this thread makes the nurse in me tremble with fear. My two cents--get knowledgeable about what you are doing, and play safe won't you please, folks?

~anelize
 
Sorry, hypoxia is a medical term for a lack of oxygen, specifically in the blood, and tissues.
 
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