Choosing the Right Leader for America's Future in November 2024.

[Boat1]

Aww - looks like you played yourself out of a complaint.

Poor dummy. Oopsies.

I don't file complaints. Sorry to disappoint you again.
BTW, how much does Langley pay you per post, to try to elicit online threats, $0.03?

 

[RoryN]

how much does Langley pay you per post, to try to elicit online threats, $0.03?

 

[Boat1]

Rory, thanks for playing with me tonight, as it was a lot of fun, but I need to do something more exciting.
I'll go to my engine room and watch some paint dry.
Have a great day!

 

[Boat1]

If a person can't afford children, they shouldn't have had them in the first place.
Having children is an individual choice. The burden created by personal choice cannot ethically be foisted upon those who didn't have any input about that decision. To put it more simply, children are the sole financial responsibility of their parents.

If I get a car or house and can't make the payments any more, how is it your obligation to make my payments for me?

The concept of a public school is based upon the premise that individuals are not free, that they are the property of the government. Parents have less authority than that exerted over children by the government. That alone is reason enough to abolish government/public schools.

When there are no more extortion supported schools, no more tax supported "public" schools, there will be a huge increase in demand for private schools. Axiomatically, that demand will cause investment and competition. Quality will rise, options will proliferate and price will decline.

In a free economy, unburdened by compulsory taxes, logic will drive education, not liberal dogma. Private investors and benefactors will be glad to pay tuition to educate children with skills that will have actual value in the real world after graduation, to increase the pool of workers worth hiring.

In a free society, if you personally believe that a "poor" child should go to school, you would be free to use YOUR money to send them. You would not be free to force others to pay.

Tax funded schools are an abject failure. More tax money per student is spent in Washington DC than anywhere else in the USA, yet test scores year after year remain at the bottom.

There is a worldwide glut of college graduates, an oversupply encouraged by tax funded tuition subsidies.
Many degrees have no practical application in the real world economy. Many colleges indoctrinate kids with entitlement delusions. They demand that if they don't get a job, they should not have to pay back their debt, their student loan. Put on an island, they would yell at the ocean, demanding that it give them fish to eat, and they would starve.

Spot On, xham!

 

[Lazaran]

Spot On, xham!

Weird…and creepy…and weird…

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Yeah yeah yeah. You do realize that if there was anything at all they could get him on for that, they'd have been allover him like flies over Kamala's ass after Willy Brown was done.

You raise a good point, maybe that’s why Trump’s nefarious friend is no longer alive.

 

[ll74]

Why does boat/xham keep switching between alts?

Study "Jury Nullification."

Fortunately, there is a fail safe, known as Jury Nullification.

 

[Boat1]

Why does boat/xham keep switching between alts?

What?
If you're implying we're the same people, sorry, but you're "barking up the wrong tree."
We were on at the same time.

 

[ll74]

What?
If you're implying we're the same people, sorry, but you're "barking up the wrong tree."
We were on at the same time.

Of course

 

[Chernosoth]

If a person can't afford children, they shouldn't have had them in the first place.
Having children is an individual choice. The burden created by personal choice cannot ethically be foisted upon those who didn't have any input about that decision. To put it more simply, children are the sole financial responsibility of their parents.

Leaving reproduction to the shrinking middle and upper classes drops the birthrate below replacement rate. Nations that went that route are having their native populations replaced by immigrants.

 

[Boat1]

Of course

After our chat yesterday, I actually feel like we're not that far apart.
Obviously, the years have made me a bit more cynical, as I no longer think that the things that our broken in this country can be fixed by voting on the national level.
Voting on the local level might offer some relief in our day to day lives, but that's even marginal.
I find it amusing when people try to put labels on me, having never met me.
Try this one for me... "Anarchist" a perfectly good word that has been bastardized by the media.
Anarchy doesn't mean "chaos" it simply means "without a ruler."
I can't wrap my head around the idea that so many people, believe they HAVE TO have someone to rule over their lives.
Why can't people embrace self governance?

 

[adrina]

Most Trump supporters don't actually like Trump. They just hate democrats.

 

[ll74]

After our chat yesterday, I actually feel like we're not that far apart.
Obviously, the years have made me a bit more cynical, as I no longer think that the things that our broken in this country can be fixed by voting on the national level.
Voting on the local level might offer some relief in our day to day lives, but that's even marginal.
I find it amusing when people try to put labels on me, having never met me.
Try this one for me... "Anarchist" a perfectly good word that has been bastardized by the media.
Anarchy doesn't mean "chaos" it simply means "without a ruler."
I can't wrap my head around the idea that so many people, believe they HAVE TO have someone to rule over their lives.
Why can't people embrace self governance?

If you want to move out of the country, you're welcome to.

The concept of sovereign citizen is fun to cosplay for some

 

[Boat1]

If you want to move out of the country, you're welcome to.

Hell, I know that and certainly don't need your permission.

I also have every right to stay here and defend myself and my property from anyone or anything that tries to encroach upon my rights.
It really is that simple.
The Govt was designed as a "backstop" to prevent said encroachment on our rights. Instead, they've morphed into a conglomerate which is often doing the encroaching.

 

[ll74]

Hell, I know that and certainly don't need your permission.

It wasn't permissio. Just merely suggesting that you have options

I also have every right to stay here and defend myself and my property from anyone or anything that tries to encroach upon my rights.

Of course you do

It really is that simple.
The Govt was designed as a "backstop" to prevent said encroachment on our rights. Instead, they've morphed into a conglomerate which is often doing the encroaching.

Good luck in your expectations

 

[Boat1]

It wasn't permissio. Just merely suggesting that you have options


Of course you do


Good luck in your expectations

Thanks and likewise!

 

[ll74]

Lol

 

[adrina]

Which raises the obvious question, why do they hate democrats?

Could it be that some individuals don't want to live under slavery, as they did under Mao and Stalin?

https://courses.aynrand.org/works/the-nature-of-government/
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50 years of conservative propaganda.

Which you demonstrate nicely.

Thanks for playin'.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

If a person can't afford children, they shouldn't have had them in the first place.
Having children is an individual choice. The burden created by personal choice cannot ethically be foisted upon those who didn't have any input about that decision. To put it more simply, children are the sole financial responsibility of their parents.

Poor people fuck for fun and have kids.

If the state doesn’t educate poor children, after a few generations you end up with a caste of illiterate peasants who provide a pool of cheap labor for the rich and powerful.

Until …one day the rich and powerful wake up to a peasant uprising.

In the long run it’s just cheaper to just fund public education

 

[dmallord]

Mostly taken from Tom Kratman's "Lines of Departure" with a little addendum of my own

No, no; the choice is NOT between Trump and Harris.

The choice is between Trump and a closed oligarchy that does NOT have yours or anyone else's interests except their own in mind. In short, whatever you want to do, you _cannot_ vote Harris. Oh, yes, you can cast your vote beside her name, but she is not the front runner; she is a front, just as her putative boss, Joe Biden, was.

Go back to the year 2020, the year when, under cover of COVID, Joe Biden ran for the presidency from his basement. Why did he do that? Fear of COVID? That was the claim, of course, but the movers and shakers of the country, especially the democratic ones, did a very impressive job of demonstrating that COVID was just not that impressive. Sure, during the George Floyd riots, they might sic the police on people sitting on their front porches, shooting those same people with paintballs. But for themselves? Please; it was party city throughout the pandemic for anyone well connected enough. And for the rioters? They were pretty much hands off.

So much for COVID.

Flash forward to the Trump-Biden debate. There it became fairly obvious that the sitting president was…mostly not there anymore. I write this not with contempt but with a degree of sympathy; that fate awaits most of us, with time. More importantly, is there any reason to believe he was fully there when his handlers kept him locked in the basement during the 2020 campaign? There really isn’t. Moreover, the people who would swear that he was are the very same people who were telling us that he was sharp as a tack right up until the debate and for some time after; their word is worthless.

And then we have the pattern of conduct, the misguidance and mismanagement from the Afghanistan withdrawal debacle through the collapse of our southern border. It is not just hard, it is impossible, to identify a single thing that has gone well for the United States in between. Especially has the economy been a disaster, and not one that the smoke and mirrors of the Democratic Party and their lapdogs of the press has been very successful in hiding. That pattern is consistent and consistently horrifying. That pattern says very strongly that the Joe Biden of the debate was the same man who stayed in his basement in 2020.

He's been this way all along.

Then, too, we have the palace coup that drove Biden from the 2024 race. Obviously, he did not decide that for himself, either.

Even so, even if Biden was incapable of doing much of anything on his own, or was not allowed to, decisions still were being made, to include decisions to do nothing, to include the decision to force him from the campaign. Who was making those decisions?

We don’t really know. Obama is a likely member of the junta – and, yes, clearly, it is a junta – as are the Clintons, both the rapist and Felonia von Pantsuit. I would suggest that the thirty-five or so members of the House and the five senators who publicly called on Biden to step aside are not members of the junta, but that those who likely gave them their marching orders, Schumer and Pelosi – who is never out of office even when out of office, are. Hakim Jeffries may well be. Garland probably is a member. Kagan may represent the left wing of the Supreme Court. Perhaps there are a few others.

Speaking of Kagan and the legal system, do but note that the supporters of the junta are the same people who will talk about the rule of law even as they prostitute the law to wage lawfare against anyone – Trump and the J6 protesters, principally – who tries to supersede them and return the country to an actual republic.

It is, by the way, unclear and I think rather unlikely that Kamala Harris is a member of that junta, any more than Joe Biden was. This, quite despite her holding views that are not easily distinguished from, say, Marx or Engles….or Lenin…or Mao…or perhaps – we cannot say for sure and when we are sure it will also be too late – Pol Pot or Stalin.

Soros? No, I don’t think so. He’s pretty distasteful from all perspectives. Now does the junta consult with him? Regularly, I am sure.

But the names don’t matter and will probably never be known for certain. The only name we’ll be allowed to see is that of Kamala Harris, the frontwoman for the junta that has been telling Joe Biden what to do for more than four years. And which will be telling Kamala Harris what to do for another four to eight, if they’re allowed to.

Just think of it, Franklin Delano Roosevelt had a bit over three terms; Obama and the junta may have as many as five. Hell, they may have an infinite number, if they succeed in destroying the Republic.

“Bu’, bu’, bu’, muh democracy!”

I have some bad news for you, the people moaning about the loss of democracy are the same people who decided to simply install as their nominee a woman who is thoroughly disliked, even within their party, whose previous run for the nomination was a disaster, who has had, in other words, not a single vote cast for her this year, and a paltry few in 2020. In short, let me suggest to you a more modern, more accurate definition of democracy in 21st century America:

Democracy, n. The unlimited and uninterrupted rule of the junta that looks after the interests of the vile and already filthy rich kleptocrats, corrupt bureaucrats, quasi-literate journalists, drooling pedophiles, academic lunatics, soulless and stupid entertainers, and other assorted human garbage on the inside of the Democratic Party.

If that’s the definition of “democracy,” and it now is, and that is what you want, wouldn’t you be happier in, say, China or perhaps North Korea?

But to finish with the same point we started with, which should be much clearer now, it is impossible to actually vote for Harris. The most you can do is vote for a junta, and, indeed, a junta that bears close resemblance to the Politburo that ran the Soviet Union or the one that is now running China, an oligarchy the members of which loathe actual democracy and don’t really hide that they do.

So for most of you, it would be wise to vote for Trump, regardless of your current views, because you really are more than likely voting for your lives (remember Stalin and Mao - most of those sent off to the gulags and executed were the gullible faithful - that's most of you here), if not immediately in the future, then a little further out, because if Harris DOES win this election by the fraud that the Democrats are so obviously preparing to perpetrate, then there will never be another free and fair election in the USA. Instead, we will likely devolved into an eventual civil conflict and this Rome too will die, because if there is obvious electoral fraud this time, a lot of people WILL go extreme.

Something to think about.

I thought Trump wanted to be the dictator from Day One. Seems that would be a wasted vote. Who pulls his strings? Oh... right. Russian, N. Koreans, and those Chinese dudes.

 

[icanhelp1]

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[YDB95]

Once again, Ican'thelpmyself lives up to his name:

 

[SevMax2]

Actually, more the other way around. I'd personally rather have seen DeSantis as candidate, but Trump will do.

Vivek Ramaswamy seemed like a halfway decent guy, though his proposal to raise the voting age to 25 was rather unserious. He seemed ready to do the Trump policies without the Trump baggage. Though I have my issues with the Trump agenda, I do appreciate that he was the first President in decades not to start any new wars, he moved the American embassy to Jerusalem, he got us closer to energy independence, and he signed the First Step Act into law (albeit at Jared Kushner's urging). I would have been interested to see a Vivek vs. Kamala run...the Battle of the Indians....

Honestly, the bar these days is in fucking Tartarus!

 

[jason28053]

Vivek Ramaswamy seemed like a halfway decent guy, though his proposal to raise the voting age to 25 was rather unserious. He seemed ready to do the Trump policies without the Trump baggage. Though I have my issues with the Trump agenda, I do appreciate that he was the first President in decades not to start any new wars, he moved the American embassy to Jerusalem, he got us closer to energy independence, and he signed the First Step Act into law (albeit at Jared Kushner's urging). I would have been interested to see a Vivek vs. Kamala run...the Battle of the Indians....

Honestly, the bar these days is in fucking Tartarus!

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[SevMax2]

Name one new war that he got us into, then. Just one. I dare you. I say this as a man who has never voted for Donald Trump, I might add.