Choosing the Right Leader for America's Future in November 2024.

[dmallord]

Name one new war that he got us into, then. Just one. I dare you. I say this as a man who has never voted for Donald Trump, I might add.

The Man, the Legend, the Myth...

Some light reading about Trump and war.

 

[Boat1]

The Man, the Legend, the Myth...

Some light reading about Trump and war.

Is this the Michael Galant that you trust to get YOUR neeewz from? FFS...

https://keywiki.org/Michael_Galant

 

[SevMax2]

Is this the Michael Galant that you trust to get YOUR neeewz from? FFS...

https://keywiki.org/Michael_Galant

He does seem to be part of the whole hard left, Michael Brooks crowd. No disrespect to the late Michael Brooks, but his takes were often....simplistic at best. Even when I was a hard-core progressive, I tended to be leery of him.

 

[dmallord]

Is this the Michael Galant that you trust to get YOUR neeewz from? FFS...

https://keywiki.org/Michael_Galant

My first time reading the site. Sure, it's biased, but the question was about Trump and war so the events took place, just perhaps with a slant. Yet, it pretty much paints a good picture of Trump's take on war. He is for them as long as he isn't the one in them as a warrior. We all know how that went during the Vietnam era.

Do you want to call Trump a hawk or a dove? He is neither, you know. The term is coward.

Michael Galant... don't know him.

 

[Boat1]

My first time reading the site. Sure, it's biased, but the question was about Trump and war so the events took place, just perhaps with a slant. Yet, it pretty much paints a good picture of Trump's take on war. He is for them as long as he isn't the one in them as a warrior. We all know how that went during the Vietnam era.

Do you want to call Trump a hawk or a dove? He is neither, you know. The term is coward.

Michael Galant... don't know him.

At 58, I've never called a POTUS a hawk or a dove... I call them "Profiteers."... which is actually the nicest name I've ever called one. Lol

 

[Lazaran]

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The only LIE bigger than the “Trump is a dove” LIE, (besides THE big stolen election LIE) is the “Trump was great for the economy and didn’t contribute to inflation and the national debt with his policies” LIE. (Although, to be fair, those policies were written by Putin and Trump’s rich donors - but Trump takes credit for them, so…)

 

[Boat1]

It seems that some of the "Cold War Kids" still buy into the "USSR Gonna Kill Us All" lie...

 

[dmallord]

At 58, I've never called a POTUS a hawk or a dove... I call them "Profiteers."... which is actually the nicest name I've ever called one. Lol

Perhaps those are terms from a bygone era. At 87 now, I can call them anything I want, unless I have company present.

At my age, a political conversation is usually met with an agreeing nod, whether they agree or not. They don't want to raise my blood pressure for fear they'd be blamed for the outcome.

 

[Boat1]

Perhaps those are terms from a bygone era. At 87 now, I can call them anything I want, unless I have company present.

At my age, a political conversation is usually met with an agreeing nod, whether they agree or not. They don't want to raise my blood pressure for fear they'd be blamed for the outcome.

Kudos on the 87 sir!

And no, they're not terms from a bygone era, as they're still perfectly functional terms.

I've just become VERY cynical and jaded regarding all things DC.... From the corrupt politicians, to the lobbyists.

 

[Tigersman]

It seems that some of the "Cold War Kids" still buy into the "USSR Gonna Kill Us All" lie...

We "Cold War Kids" have every reason to buy into the "USSR Gonna Kill Us All" as Putin keeps threatening to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine. He also said he intends to invade Poland, a NATO nation after he is finished with Ukraine. Putin is an ex-KGB intelligence officer of the old hard line. Before the USSR split up Putin was a card-carrying member of the Communist Party. I personally participated in nuclear war drills in elementary school. We were shown movies of the destruction done to Hiroshima and Nagasaki plus the above ground nuclear tests done by the US.

 

[Boat1]

We "Cold War Kids" have every reason to buy into the "USSR Gonna Kill Us All" as Putin keeps threatening to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine. He also said he intends to invade Poland, a NATO nation after he is finished with Ukraine. Putin is an ex-KGB intelligence officer of the old hard line. Before the USSR split up Putin was a card-carrying member of the Communist Party. I personally participated in nuclear war drills in elementary school. We were shown movies of the destruction done to Hiroshima and Nagasaki plus the above ground nuclear tests done by the US.

Study Ukrainian history, then study America's promise to stop expanding NATO to the Russian border.
If that doesn't clear things up, study the Biolabs and money laundering the US has been running in Ukraine.... then get back to me.

 

[ll74]

Study Ukrainian history, then study America's promise to stop expanding NATO to the Russian border.

Nothing in writing.

If that doesn't clear things up, study the Biolabs and money laundering the US has been running in Ukraine.... then get back to me.

Studying bullshit doesn't result in anything but bullshit.

 

[Boat1]

Nothing in writing.


Studying bullshit doesn't result in anything but bullshit.

"In early February 1990, U.S. leaders made the Soviets an offer. According to transcripts of meetings in Moscow on Feb. 9, then-Secretary of State James Baker suggested that in exchange for cooperation on Germany, U.S. could make “iron-clad guarantees” that NATO would not expand “one inch eastward.” Less than a week later, Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev agreed to begin reunification talks. No formal deal was struck, but from all the evidence, the quid pro quo was clear: Gorbachev acceded to Germany’s western alignment and the U.S. would limit NATO’s expansion."

I've read the transcripts, have you?

...and when it comes to "bullshit" you're definitely getting a high score.

 

[ll74]

"In early February 1990, U.S. leaders made the Soviets an offer. According to transcripts of meetings in Moscow on Feb. 9, then-Secretary of State James Baker suggested that in exchange for cooperation on Germany, U.S. could make “iron-clad guarantees” that NATO would not expand “one inch eastward.” Less than a week later, Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev agreed to begin reunification talks. No formal deal was struck, but from all the evidence, the quid pro quo was clear: Gorbachev acceded to Germany’s western alignment and the U.S. would limit NATO’s expansion."

" Could make"

No formal deal was made.

Probably get it in writing next time
(Also copypasta without a source is telling)

I've read the transcripts, have you?

...and when it comes to "bullshit" you're definitely getting a high score.

Understanding the "bio labs" bullshit takes more brain cells than you have available.

 

[Boat1]

" Could make"

No formal deal was made.

Probably get it in writing next time
(Also copypasta without a source is telling)

Understanding the "bio labs" bullshit takes more brain cells than you have available.

Source for lazy ones, LA Times... but there are countless ones, INCLUDING transcripts.
Written or not, if someone breaks their word on a serious matter, they're forever in my "shitbag file" to not be trusted and all bets are off.

I'll utilize my shortage of brain cells and use my "pattern recognition."
Your conversations typically resort to personal insults and the "LOL/Whatever" replies, which are telling of people's inability to state a factual or intelligent reply.


https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-shifrinson-russia-us-nato-deal--20160530-snap-story.html

 

[ll74]

Source for lazy ones, LA Times... but there are countless ones, INCLUDING transcripts.

You literally quoted the article. Talk about laxy

Written or not, if someone breaks their word on a serious matter, they're forever in my "shitbag file" to not be trusted and all bets are off.

Not getting it in writing seems to be something deficitient of an adversary.

I'll utilize my shortage of brain cells and use my "pattern recognition."
Your conversations typically resort to personal insults and the "LOL/Whatever" replies, which are telling of people's inability to state a factual or intelligent reply.

Thanks for your valuable feedback. Maybe you should Putin more Russian disinformation to your replies.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-shifrinson-russia-us-nato-deal--20160530-snap-story.html

Strange enough, when I googled it, I received a different source. One might consider that this could lead to different information and, as a result, a different conclusion between the two of us.

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[Boat1]

You literally quoted the article. Talk about laxy


Not getting it in writing seems to be something deficitient of an adversary.


Thanks for your valuable feedback. Maybe you should Putin more Russian disinformation to your replies.


Strange enough, when I googled it, I received a different source. One might consider that this could lead to different information and, as a result, a different conclusion between the two of us.

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Of course we'll find different sources saying different things. I've seen countless true, verified articles "scrubbed or buried" on the internet... just look at the political leanings of the biggest players who control the web market.
It ain't a secret, nor is it rocket science.

 

[ll74]

Of course we'll find different sources saying different things. I've seen countless true, verified articles "scrubbed or buried" on the internet... just look at the political leanings of the biggest players who control the web market.

If you read and article and I read the same article, we are discussing the same words on the same page. That is why I ask for sources. Especially when algorithms return based sources, providing sources isn't about doing someone else's job.....it's a form of providing perspective for your opinion/words.

And the lazy fucks are the ones who refuse to provide that.

It ain't a secret, nor is it rocket science.

You actually reinforced my point above .....thanks

 

[Boat1]

If you read and article and I read the same article, we are discussing the same words on the same page. That is why I ask for sources. Especially when algorithms return based sources, providing sources isn't about doing someone else's job.....it's a form of providing perspective for your opinion/words.

And the lazy fucks are the ones who refuse to provide that.


You actually reinforced my point above .....thanks

You're quite welcome! I'm glad I could stroke your confirmation biased based ego today!

 

[ll74]

You're quite welcome! I'm glad I could stroke your confirmation biased based ego today!

Lol.....of course