Could you ever be dominated by an idiot?

MzDeviancy said:
Or maybe not an idiot, but how bout someone who wasn't as smart as you? Could you ever be dominated by an Albertan farmer who'd flunked out of the tenth grade?

Just curious.


Hmmm...I don't think that flunking out of school necessarily indicates stupidity, but do think it has vast indications of laziness implied - unless there are outside influences such as health or family matters involved. And I could never, ever submit to a lazy top!

For myself, intelligence is just as important as caring for your partner. If I can't sit and hold an intelligent conversation while negotiating a scene, then my mind won't be able to find the correct space needed to play.

But everyone is different. For some, play is just play and the only consideration for them is whether the other person is good at what they do, they have no thoughts of having any kind of relationship with the other person outside the scene. And that is ok, if it's what you want out the play scene in your area.

However, if what you are looking for is the possibility of a long term relationship with someone, then compatability is extremely important. Will you be ok with being more than just a little smarter than your partner, and will their ego be able to deal with it, as well? Are there other areas that maybe will overshadow this, that you both love to go museaum hopping, or outdoor activities take up most of your time together?

Being a couple is about more than simple inteligence. It's the whole of both of you rolled into one being. If his not finishing school doesn't bother you, and it doesn't bother him, then I say give it a go.
 
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Proudsubinatl said:
It is my observation that the most prolific Dominants on this site are unusually bright and seem very quick witted.

However that can also be said of the most prolific submissives here.

Evidently this is a singular group of intelligent people.

As to the question posed; I have had only one D/s relationship and she was certainly my mental equal. I could outrun her though. Does that count for anything?

Could you submit to someone who couldn’t catch you?


Ah, but if you really wanted to submit to them, why would you run? :D
 
Could you ever be dominated by an idioit? I could if they were bigger and stonger then me.
Would i ever submit to an idioit? Oh hell no.
I don't think i'd ever let someone stupider then i call the shots on things that relate to me. Intelligence is one of my number one turn ons. I was in a bdsm clubt he other day and there was a guy and i found him repulsive and frankly a little skeevy, but when i saw him going to town on this girl and doing a mighty awesome job of it i became highly intreagued.

of course i also have this fantasy of finding someone mysterious and super intelligent, being submissive to them as i learn everything they know, the rising up and being like a bajillion times smarter then them...and if they are arrogant and mean, i crush them, but if they were kind and caring, i keep submitting to them and it becasue a truely meaningful relationship.

rarrr. me crush, raaarrrr.
 
Hester said:
would anyone care to define intelligence?

I think there are book smarts, street smarts and common sense.

I can respect someone with each individually or a combination, but I tend to be really attracted to someone with all of them. Otherwise I consider there to be a vacancy.
 
ammre said:
of course i also have this fantasy of finding someone mysterious and super intelligent, being submissive to them as i learn everything they know, the rising up and being like a bajillion times smarter then them...and if they are arrogant and mean, i crush them, but if they were kind and caring, i keep submitting to them and it becasue a truely meaningful relationship.

rarrr. me crush, raaarrrr.


This is VERY hot.
 
Netzach said:
This is VERY hot.



What? the "raaa. me crush raaar" part?


just kidding...



And as for the defining intelligence... it's basically the ability to grasp an idea and understand it's basis and workings. The intelligence i look for is a distinct knowlage of what they are doing, and a knowlage of how they interact with people. I dated someone socially inept... dear god never again. I've also screwed people who were very socialable, but when i wanted to talk about something in depth they were totally vacant.


OED online, intelligence:
"1. The faculty of understanding; intellect."
"2. Understanding as a quality of admitting of degree; spec. superior understanding; quickness of mental apprehension, sagacity. (Said also in reference to animals.)"
"3. a. The action or fact of mentally apprehending something; understanding, knowledge, cognizance, comprehension (of something)."

"intelligence." The Oxford English Dictionary 2nd, ed., 2006.
 
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I suppose I should clear this up...

Many people seem to be under the mistaken impression that I meant that lack of education was clearly indicative of stupidity. Not so. It was just one possible measure of intelligence as far as some are concerned. And then there's the matter of prestige - I just wonder sometimes if BDSM is like dating (ever notice you don't see many surgeons dating custodians?).

I also don't feel that stupidity is a requisite of a poor vocabulary, but I've also gotten into a whole lot of arguments with people who do.

People have their own ideas of what equals smart, and I was just wondering how many subs could be dominated by someone who didn't measure up to their personal ideal of smart.
 
MzDeviancy said:
Or maybe not an idiot, but how bout someone who wasn't as smart as you? Could you ever be dominated by an Albertan farmer who'd flunked out of the tenth grade?

Just curious.

I have no doubt that someone could be, in a purely physical sense. As to domination in the sense most of us here mean it, I cannot see why anyone would want to be.

One of the principal things required of the Dom by the sub is an imagination, this quality is rarely associated with idiots.

Masterstroke
"Of all the things I have lost, I miss my mind the most!"
 
MzDeviancy said:
Many people seem to be under the mistaken impression that I meant that lack of education was clearly indicative of stupidity. Not so. It was just one possible measure of intelligence as far as some are concerned. And then there's the matter of prestige - I just wonder sometimes if BDSM is like dating (ever notice you don't see many surgeons dating custodians?).

I also don't feel that stupidity is a requisite of a poor vocabulary, but I've also gotten into a whole lot of arguments with people who do.

People have their own ideas of what equals smart, and I was just wondering how many subs could be dominated by someone who didn't measure up to their personal ideal of smart.
I don't think for me it has that much to do with if I could be dominated by someone not as smart as me. I don't think I could have a very satisfying relationship with them. I don't mean actual higher IQ, better education or whatever you measure intelligence with. I'd just rather have a partner with similar interests, similar views on the world, similar education.
I want to give an example. When on vacation, many Germans go to different countries, all over the world. And many of them book an all-inclusive hotel wich they never leave, participating in the entertainment provided by the hotel, lying at the beach the whole day, drinking way more than is good for anyone, eating the same food they would at home. I like to stay at a house/apartment/camping site, get to know the countrey I'm staying in. Looking at churches built 1000 years ago, museums, eat local food. Stay at the beach a couple of hours a day.
I am arrogant enough to consider the first kind of vacation something for stupid people. (No offense meant to anyone reading this.) This probably just means that they are uninterested in things that are of high importance to me. But it means that we are incompatible for a relationship.
 
MzDeviancy said:
Many people seem to be under the mistaken impression that I meant that lack of education was clearly indicative of stupidity. Not so. It was just one possible measure of intelligence as far as some are concerned. And then there's the matter of prestige - I just wonder sometimes if BDSM is like dating (ever notice you don't see many surgeons dating custodians?).

I also don't feel that stupidity is a requisite of a poor vocabulary, but I've also gotten into a whole lot of arguments with people who do.

People have their own ideas of what equals smart, and I was just wondering how many subs could be dominated by someone who didn't measure up to their personal ideal of smart.

Within your definition then the honest answer is 'No'
I could have sex and I could have a great time, but being Dominated takes a measure of trust.
Trust links into my psyche in terms of 'smart' I can't trust someone to Dominate me if I don't think they are smart enough.
It almost like admitting a prejudice, which makes me uncomfortable, but I am being honest with myself.
 
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