Cutting/Self harm

[Nasty_Deeds]

You'll notice, I've limited my part of this discussion to consenting adults. Moreover, you've gone quite far afield from the question posited by the op, who, btw, seems to have left the building.

The point is, when you live in a free society, you cannot pick and choose your freedoms. If you open the consensual door for one, you open the consensual door for all.

You want to get back to the original post, Ok let’s get back to the original post. I notice on your profile that you list yourself as a married man, (MWM). That’s good, probably have a family that you are very proud of, and you should. For the sake of discussion, let’s say you spent the last 25 years of your life, (and your financial resources), raising your kids; it’s been difficult to make the tuition but you finally have them in college and they are doing very well. A family any man can be proud of.

Then your beautiful young daughter come home for spring break, pulls up her sleeves and says, “Look dad, I found this fascinating new way to have sex! I cut myself to have fun”! What are you going to do? Jump to your feet and exclaim, “Good show daughter! Let’s run down to the store and buy you a new cutting tool”!

In a free society, when you open the consensual door for one, you open the consensual door for all. Even your own.

There is no shortage of well educated, qualified doctors with years of experience in the field that will tell you, self-cutting is not a fetish, nor is it sexual gratification, it is a subconscious response to intense emotional pain and emotional frustration. Not everything in life is a fetish.

As far as the OP having left the building, it’s not against forum rules to post on any thread as long as the posts somehow relate, (even remotely), to the original topic. This is actually a good discussion as to what is and what is not a fetish.

 

[Nasty_Deeds]

The Jeffery Dahmer defense

LOL, yeah, and that defense worked well for him didn't it.

 

[Very_Bad_Man]

I missed the original post and since it was deleted I think this discussion is now moot.

 

[lovecraft68]

So what-- trust you instead? You're hilarious.

How about you understand that this is your opinion, and that you don't actually know what's going on in her head? Sounds good to me. Pretty arrogant of you to be able to say what is and what isn't a kink or fetish for others. I'm into giants; you gonna tell me I should seek help for having daddy issues? Get over yourself.

Did I say me? I meant get help. There are those that are into cutting as a sexual act and those that are into it as an act of self destruction and a cry for help.

Would you know the difference? And if you did would you take advantage? Some would. The girl did not come across as being sexually aroused necessarily.

People can have whatever damn kink they want as long as its what they want and its not just them being screwed up and then being egged on by idiots.

 

[Nasty_Deeds]

I missed the original post and since it was deleted I think this discussion is now moot.

A copy of the original post is on the 4th message on the first page. And you know how we are here, we will beat a dead horse.

 

[Nasty_Deeds]

Did I say me? I meant get help. There are those that are into cutting as a sexual act and those that are into it as an act of self destruction and a cry for help.

Would you know the difference? And if you did would you take advantage? Some would. The girl did not come across as being sexually aroused necessarily.

People can have whatever damn kink they want as long as its what they want and its not just them being screwed up and then being egged on by idiots.

You have a good point here. The OP said that she wanted to take it into the bedroom, which indicates she has been cutting herself for other reason up until now.

 

[Stella_Omega]

There is a difference between fetish and mental illness. Anything that causes permanent physical or mental damage should not be encouraged.

That's not your call.

Rape is common, so why not legitimize that also? Where do you draw the line?

That has nothing to do with this topic.

Trust who herself? The girl is a self cutter. There is no one cutting her for sexual pleasure. This isn't about a kink or a fetish.

That's not your call.

There have been cases of consensual cannibalism, where one person consents to be killed and eaten by another. Should we permit that too?

That is not your call.

Ok, since you are quick to allow consensual cannibalism in our society, how far are you willing to go? There more than a few cases of consensual pedophilia, where the child consents to have sex with an adult. Are you personally willing to support pedophilia in our society just because the child consents?

That is not part of this topic, for fuck's sake.

 

[Nasty_Deeds]

That's not your call.
That has nothing to do with this topic.
That's not your call.

That is not your call.

That is not part of this topic, for fuck's sake.

It's within the posting rules Hon......

I thought you were in a good mood after getting your clit licked the other night? That didn't last long, what happened?

 

[Stella_Omega]

It's within the posting rules Hon......

I thought you were in a good mood after getting your clit licked the other night? That didn't last long, what happened?

Your stupidity has nothing to do with my clit.

 

[Nasty_Deeds]

Your stupidity has nothing to do with my clit.

The crash after the high is rough isn't it?

 

[Stella_Omega]

The crash after the high is rough isn't it?

Your stupidity has nothing to do with my high, either.

 

[Very_Bad_Man]

A copy of the original post is on the 4th message on the first page. And you know how we are here, we will beat a dead horse.

I know but it is rare I get to use the word "moot"

 

[Very_Bad_Man]

In all honesty her post is ambiguous.

Though in truth I find blood to be a bit revolting but this may have something to do with finding a bloody tampon at the bottom of my soup bowl which I just do not want to discuss in detail.

 

[KoPilot]

Did I say me? I meant get help. There are those that are into cutting as a sexual act and those that are into it as an act of self destruction and a cry for help.

Would you know the difference? And if you did would you take advantage? Some would. The girl did not come across as being sexually aroused necessarily.

People can have whatever damn kink they want as long as its what they want and its not just them being screwed up and then being egged on by idiots.

You're making a lot of assumptions about the OP-- a lot. I fucking hate it when people throw around the words "mental illness" and slap it on every behavior that makes them feel ickybad. Cutting is an action, not an illness, and an action that can have many rationales behind it.

Assuming that she's doing it with sharp, sterile tools, and not with the intention of permanent damage, who are you to say that her behavior is any more an illness than a desire for sex itself? I think you are the one that needs to get help. Here's a good starting point.

 

[Stella_Omega]

In all honesty her post is ambiguous.

Though in truth I find blood to be a bit revolting but this may have something to do with finding a bloody tampon at the bottom of my soup bowl which I just do not want to discuss in detail.

no,no-- let's talk about this!

How much of the blood was left? Had it cooked into the tampax, or was it runny and contaminating your bowl?

Was this garnish presented with malice, or was it an accident, or part of a lurve spell? Did it work?

 

[Very_Bad_Man]

no,no-- let's talk about this!

How much of the blood was left? Had it cooked into the tampax, or was it runny and contaminating your bowl?

Was this garnish presented with malice, or was it an accident, or part of a lurve spell? Did it work?

Running joke.

My comrade in arms put it in my bowl as a joke when I went to grab some juice.

 

[Nasty_Deeds]

Running joke.

My comrade in arms put it in my bowl as a joke when I went to grab some juice.

Sooo, when does your friend get out of the hospital?

 

[Very_Bad_Man]

Sooo, when does your friend get out of the hospital?

Naw.

It was funny. I would of only gotten pissed if I ate from it then it would of been on like Donkey Kong

 

[Nasty_Deeds]

Naw.

It was funny. I would of only gotten pissed if I ate from it then it would of been on like Donkey Kong

And women think men don't know how to have fun. LOL

 

[Boundlife]

You're making a lot of assumptions about the OP-- a lot. I fucking hate it when people throw around the words "mental illness" and slap it on every behavior that makes them feel ickybad. Cutting is an action, not an illness, and an action that can have many rationales behind it.

Assuming that she's doing it with sharp, sterile tools, and not with the intention of permanent damage, who are you to say that her behavior is any more an illness than a desire for sex itself? I think you are the one that needs to get help. Here's a good starting point.

Cutting is a symptom of serious mental health issues. The same action arguments could be stretched to suicide. Mental illness is real, not a catch phrase. Try googling "cutting" instead of looking up kiddie books, if you want to sound like you know what you are saying.

VBM: Your right, "moot" is a great word that doesn't get used

 

[Stella_Omega]

Cutting is a symptom of serious mental health issues. The same action arguments could be stretched to suicide. Mental illness is real, not a catch phrase. Try googling "cutting" instead of looking up kiddie books, if you want to sound like you know what you are saying.

VBM: Your right, "moot" is a great word that doesn't get used

The fact that it's a mental illness does not matter on this particular forum, believe it or not.

 

[Boundlife]

The fact that it's a mental illness does not matter on this particular forum, believe it or not.

So if someone is in pain and/or having trouble coping it doesn't matter here? I think it should always matter.

 

[Stella_Omega]

So if someone is in pain and/or having trouble coping it doesn't matter here? I think it should always matter.

That was not the substance of her post. And you won't do OP any good by derailing her question. You will do more good by engaging on her terms, as a few of us were doing, and eventually you can start talking about getting help. Or even better, you can listen to the person talk about getting help themselves.

But the first step is validating her and her thoughts on the matter. She's not going to listen to strangers telling her how sick she is, or that her solution is utterly wrong.

 

[Nasty_Deeds]

That was not the substance of her post. And you won't do OP any good by derailing her question. You will do more good by engaging on her terms, as a few of us were doing, and eventually you can start talking about getting help. Or even better, you can listen to the person talk about getting help themselves.

But the first step is validating her and her thoughts on the matter. She's not going to listen to strangers telling her how sick she is, or that her solution is utterly wrong.

Enabling someone's mental problems is helping no one. You really are a sick human being aren't you.

 

[Very_Bad_Man]

You guys are killing me here.

The OP's post is lacking any concrete info to determine the motives. So basically you fighting over empty air.