Discussion: A Request to the Admins to add a Cuckold topic category

[NoTalentHack]

Read the other points I made. I have no idea why cuck should be treated more fairly than other kinks / kink combinations.

Em

I think, to be fair, it’s less about treating cuck more fairly and more about treating other categories that way. Basically, it’s an attempt to corral these stories that do poorly in other places (because they’re unwanted there) and improve the enjoyment of both the people that do want to read these stories and those that don’t, especially on a site that doesn’t have compulsory tagging.

 

[EmilyMiller]

I think, to be fair, it’s less about treating cuck more fairly and more about treating other categories that way. Basically, it’s an attempt to corral these stories that do poorly in other places (because they’re unwanted there) and improve the enjoyment of both the people that do want to read these stories and those that don’t, especially on a site that doesn’t have compulsory tagging.

Then do a comprehensive overhaul. Not something special for one area.

Em

 

[NoTalentHack]

Then do a comprehensive overhaul. Not something special for one area.

Em

How much of an overhaul do you think we need? Not being snarky, just curious. Most of the ones I’ve seen suggested make the dire less usable to casual readers, because they’re suggested by writers and veteran users. The UX choices are often kind of bleak.

 

[EmilyMiller]

How much of an overhaul do you think we need? Not being snarky, just curious. Most of the ones I’ve seen suggested make the dire less usable to casual readers, because they’re suggested by writers and veteran users. The UX choices are often kind of bleak.

Speaking purely personally - the categories feel like a straitjacket. I’m often reduced to picking the least bad one. As has been pointed out above - I’m maybe weird in the breath of kink I include in a single story.

I generally write what I want to write and then scratch my head as to where it fits (or almost fits most of the time). I’m coming round to a tagging approach being better. Categories create expectations that a story is going to be about X. Mine are often about A…Z. I don’t see why I should have to write to a category.

Em

 

[Bamagan]

In response to the three comments above, and the thread more generally, the simplest comprehensive change the site could make might be turning the existing categories into required tags and allowing authors to put a check mark on each one that is applicable. An interracial lesbian threesome would show up on the story hub for each of those categories. Yes, that would probably incentivize some people to toss in extra stuff to maximize their potential views. No, it would probably not prevent tribalism, although it might reduce it since each category hub would probably see a lot of stuff it didn't before. Changes to a multi-tiered tagging system would be a little easier to implement than breaking apart an existing category and trying to decide which stories get to stay and who has to move out.
Disclaimer: Like @EmilyMiller, I tend to write stuff that isn't easily corralled to the site's categories, so my views on what would be an improvement are admittedly as biased as anyone else's.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Speaking purely personally - the categories feel like a straitjacket. I’m often reduced to picking the least bad one. As has been pointed out above - I’m maybe weird in the breath of kink I include in a single story.

I generally write what I want to write and then scratch my head as to where it fits (or almost fits most of the time). I’m coming round to a tagging approach being better. Categories create expectations that a story is going to be about X. Mine are often about A…Z. I don’t see why I should have to write to a category.

Em

So, take Heaven & Hole. As it goes through its chapters we get:

1. Lesbian threesome
2. MFF anal threesome
3. MF + MF oral
4. MF + MF fucking
5. Lesbian
6. Lesbian again
7. Body-swapped M=>F sex with F
8. MFF BDSM - impact play
9. MFF anal
10. NC/R face-fucking (my version)

It’s in Sci-Fi / Fantasy - but I’m sure some readers could be as triggered by the content as others are by cuck.

Em

 

[alohadave]

As has been pointed out above - I’m maybe weird in the breath of kink I include in a single story.

You are weird, but not for that reason. I think many of us who don't write just for a category have overlaps.

One thing that might help is to allow a story to occupy multiple categories. ie: Incest with some anal, it goes into both categories.

 

[MelissaBaby]

You are weird, but not for that reason. I think many of us who don't write just for a category have overlaps.

One thing that might help is to allow a story to occupy multiple categories. ie: Incest with some anal, it goes into both categories.

So, author A writes a story that is specifically focused on anal sex. Author B write an Incest story with incidental anal content. That story is listed in both categories.

Both stories score highly enough to be nominees for the annual Reader's Choice Awards. The incest story, having been posted in a much more popular category, overwhelms the actual Anal story.

Maybe multiple categories could work, but with one being chosen as the primary category, which would be the only one in which the story would qualify for Top Lists and awards.

 

[alohadave]

Maybe multiple categories could work, but with one being chosen as the primary category, which would be the only one in which the story would qualify for Top Lists and awards.

That's a reasonable solution.

 

[EmilyMiller]

So, author A writes a story that is specifically focused on anal sex. Author B write an Incest story with incidental anal content. That story is listed in both categories.

Both stories score highly enough to be nominees for the annual Reader's Choice Awards. The incest story, having been posted in a much more popular category, overwhelms the actual Anal story.

Maybe multiple categories could work, but with one being chosen as the primary category, which would be the only one in which the story would qualify for Top Lists and awards.

Genius level idea!

Em

 

[JaxRhapsody]

In response to the three comments above, and the thread more generally, the simplest comprehensive change the site could make might be turning the existing categories into required tags and allowing authors to put a check mark on each one that is applicable. An interracial lesbian threesome would show up on the story hub for each of those categories. Yes, that would probably incentivize some people to toss in extra stuff to maximize their potential views. No, it would probably not prevent tribalism, although it might reduce it since each category hub would probably see a lot of stuff it didn't before. Changes to a multi-tiered tagging system would be a little easier to implement than breaking apart an existing category and trying to decide which stories get to stay and who has to move out.
Disclaimer: Like @EmilyMiller, I tend to write stuff that isn't easily corralled to the site's categories, so my views on what would be an improvement are admittedly as biased as anyone else's.

I kinda like that idea. I think StoriesOnline is like that. I learned to write for catagory because it's just easier. Like another said; if it don't fit, I save it for elsewhere. I may have other catagory stuff in a story but it's clear where it belongs. Trust me, I do do some off the rail writings where my mind goes; "check this shit out," and I'm along for the ride. One of my novels had a poly relationship just jump outta nowhere. One of my fanfics went from main plot to lets givd characters F and G a plot where they're peer pressured into dating because Fs b/f cheated on her and she was lonely, but they find out that her dad is racist and it pushed them closer, then there was a high speed chase with G and Fs dad because he thought she was in his SUV, but slipped out in to As car before G left, so she could get away, which led to F's dad getting arrested and jail time along with the mom.

I just think writers should be able to adapt accordingly. Aiming at a specific catagory is no different than doing a contest or challenge, or working within a sites ruleset. I wouldn't write a story about a female sex slave to a group of men for the Pink Orchid contest about empowered women, put smut on FFN, or a whole nothing but throat fucking stroker in Anal. All things aside, the catagories are only "restrictive" if you make them that way. Like visiting another country and expecting them to speak english, you're only hurting yourself. It's all about perspective. Hell... I have a incest story here where the sister is being a slut, the brother hadn't got laid, and they haven't even had sex with each other in the chapters posted and the one or two not posted.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

As much as I hate categories, it is possible that any change right now would create even more problems while barely solving some. If website owners had the balls to do it, a complete rehaul based on the experience of 25 years or so would result in a much better website. But there are also far simpler and much less radical ways to make things better, ones that a "rival" website uses.
Keep all of the existing categories, but use them only as a loose categorization. Using tags is the key. The visibility of the tags is the real problem. You have to click on a story and then click on the link to story tags to actually see what kinks and themes the story contains. I believe many readers don't pay much attention to these since they are not obvious at all. Make them stand out. Make them so that along with the story name and description, the story tags are visible and in your face in every list where the story is displayed, no matter if it's the category list, the new stories list, the list resulting from some specific search, or the author's story list.
It would serve the purpose of making browsing the stories much quicker since even if you like certain categories in general, there are still some specific tags and themes you prefer. It would also serve as a warning to people who strongly dislike certain tags to stay away from that particular story.

 

[lc69hunter]

I am almost finished with a Chapter one of a two part story in which the wife had always fantasied about a random one off who she would never see again, and husband had told her that was not a threat to a good marriage. A salesman from out of town walks in to her office, flirts with her and asks her to lunch the next day. She tells her husband that night and he tells her to go, and if the chemistry is right, call in the afternoon off, let him know and enjoy the afternoon exploring a strange cock. She does, and after work, she comes home, they fuck like rabbits, and happens to mention he was black (not really relevant to the overall story), so LW category. Husband grins and says, "let's fuck with ignorant people", and tells her to call him and ask if he would take her out dinner and dancing and be her boyfriend for the night. In the second chapter, they play that game. Second chapter, definitely IR, as that is the focus, but still a loving couple, it is just that the focus of the story has changed.

I probably won't even tag IR in the first story as it is irrelevant to the story.

 

[33RPMVinylPants]

I wouldn't mind eliminating categories alltogether and giving users a much more robust and intuitive tag search system.

At the top of the page would be a "show me stories that include:" and a field for tags.

And there's be another bar "hide stories that include:"

A story tagged with Anal and Incest would show up to the user who wants incest and doesn't care if Anal is included or not, and the Anal afficianado who blanches at incest can filter that out based on the tags.

(Also maybe also a way to filter out anything that's a sequel to another story, so the results page isn't full of part 17s of stories I haven't read.)

registered users could even save their favorite searches, to make it easier to quickly return to a specific combo they like.

 

[MillieDynamite]

You wouldn't lose the haters because you opened a category for the lovers of the genre. They know the stories they hate and read them anyway, sometimes just to show their hate.

 

[LustyScribe]

You wouldn't lose the haters because you opened a category for the lovers of the genre. They know the stories they hate and read them anyway, sometimes just to show their hate.

Absolutely true. Haters gotta hate.

 

[Lifestyle66]

I think to appease those who believe their stories should never be 1-bombed, the perfect solution the site admins should do is just remove all of the 1, 2, 3, and 4-stars from the selection at the end of the stories! Then those who are obsessed with ratings will finally get their wish.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Like I've said or typed before, I'm not worried about the voting system and mildly concerned with my scores. I don't get upset when stories get one-bombed, but hey, Like the song says...

Into each and every life some rain has got to fall
But too much of that stuff is fallin' into mine
And into each heart some tears gotta fall
And I know that someday that sun is bound to shine

 

[eh9198]

I just wish Loving Wives was what it used to be: CHEATING wives where the husbands either don’t know about it or don’t want it to happen. And, you know, filled with SEX instead of so much of what it is now which is basically no sex depicted. This is a sexy story site ffs, people!

 

[NoTalentHack]

I just wish Loving Wives was what it used to be: CHEATING wives where the husbands either don’t know about it or don’t want it to happen. And, you know, filled with SEX instead of so much of what it is now which is basically no sex depicted. This is a sexy story site ffs, people!

 

[Lifestyle66]

LOL.

I just wish people could learn to read!

Loving Wives: Married extra-marital fun: swinging, sharing & more.


Everything else is personal wishful thinking and selfish "I want my own stuff!"

 

[Priscilla_June]

Great success in Fetish for me

 

[TheRedChamber]

I just wish Loving Wives was what it used to be: CHEATING wives where the husbands either don’t know about it or don’t want it to happen. And, you know, filled with SEX instead of so much of what it is now which is basically no sex depicted. This is a sexy story site ffs, people!

For what its worth, I've got a 19k LW story to be published on Monday (as part of the sports event) where the lines between cheating and swinging are blurred, husbands are very conflicted - says yes, says no, says yes again and in which the wife (who is not *really* a bitch) gets a little bit burnt and a little bit indulged.

Oh, and it has possibly 9 different sexual encounters depending on how you count them, the vast majority monogamous between the two leads.

It'll be interesting to see how it does.

My bet is terribly.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Don't be a naysayer; bet the barn and go for broke.

For what its worth, I've got a 19k LW story to be published on Monday (as part of the sports event) where the lines between cheating and swinging are blurred, husbands are very conflicted - says yes, says no, says yes again and in which the wife (who is not *really* a bitch) gets a little bit burnt and a little bit indulged.

Oh, and it has possibly 9 different sexual encounters depending on how you count them, the vast majority monogamous between the two leads.

It'll be interesting to see how it does.

My bet is terribly.

 

[Lifestyle66]

For what its worth, I've got a 19k LW story to be published on Monday (as part of the sports event) where the lines between cheating and swinging are blurred, husbands are very conflicted - says yes, says no, says yes again and in which the wife (who is not *really* a bitch) gets a little bit burnt and a little bit indulged.

Oh, and it has possibly 9 different sexual encounters depending on how you count them, the vast majority monogamous between the two leads.

It'll be interesting to see how it does.

My bet is terribly.

It sounds interesting. I'll definitely look for it.