Do Doms like subs to rebel?

[lil_slave_rose]

rape play would be no fun if she just did as she was told.

bruised wrists from struggling, slapped face for screaming, thighs black & blue from trying to resist.

heaven.

rape 'play' is different than everyday 'submission' of course in a mock rape scene there is going to be struggle. but if i were constantly rebelling, and/or questioning Master's authority or orders what would be the poing in submitting to Him?? because at that point, who really holds the power? i'm not saying that i always 'submit without question' i'm not a robot and some of the things He asks me to do i do not enjoy and will voice my concerns, but in the end, He makes the decision and i do as i'm told.

 

[Andraste]

rape 'play' is different than everyday 'submission' of course in a mock rape scene there is going to be struggle. but if i were constantly rebelling, and/or questioning Master's authority or orders what would be the poing in submitting to Him?? because at that point, who really holds the power? i'm not saying that i always 'submit without question' i'm not a robot and some of the things He asks me to do i do not enjoy and will voice my concerns, but in the end, He makes the decision and i do as i'm told.

again with the one size fits all!

perhaps, in some relationships, it is the desire and willingness to be overpowered that drives the sub, the desire and power to force his will that drives the dom.

that would be the point!

certainly not a dynamic desired by most in the scene, but a valid desire none the less. there is no rule book as long as both parties gain satsfaction.

 

[lil_slave_rose]

again with the one size fits all!

perhaps, in some relationships, it is the desire and willingness to be overpowered that drives the sub, the desire and power to force his will that drives the dom.

that would be the point!

certainly not a dynamic desired by most in the scene, but a valid desire none the less. there is no rule book as long as both parties gain satsfaction.

i did put it in the context of MY relationship, so i was by no means stating that 'one size fits all' i realize not everyone is the same and there may be those who desire to have to 'make' their submissive submit. i was simply giving my opinion on the subject

 

[Blushing Bottom]

I hear ya cc and I too was raised to be headstrong and question authority.

...but when it comes to my submission there is no rebellion, no power struggle, no question. His wish IS my command and I purr in his presence like the happy lil kitten I am.

I sharpen my claws on those who accost me with stupidity and their passive aggressiveness. You know the types. You can find them anywhere today in this me first I'm selfish world.

Ok getting carried away with my politics...enough said.

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I usually like to be made to submit. The idea of that and I guess the 'rape' fantasy really gets me goin haha.

But like others have said...once I get 'the look' I usually back down.
But I was raised to be headstrong so that gets me into trouble alot.

 

[Andraste]

smilies & roses when i'm being a confrontational bitch?

we don't have nice people on the gb...this is somewhat unnerving.

 

[Blushing Bottom]

lol

You used to.

I came here from there.

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smilies & roses when i'm being a confrontational bitch?

we don't have nice people on the gb...this is somewhat unnerving.

 

[Andraste]

lol

You used to.

I came here from there.

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and i started here.

that says something about us!

 

[lil_slave_rose]

smilies & roses when i'm being a confrontational bitch?

we don't have nice people on the gb...this is somewhat unnerving.

confrontational? i thought this was a message board to share our views/opinions not be confrontational....*shrugs* whatever works for you

 

[richard_daily]

i'm bratty, manipulative, cruel & opinionated.

if he can't deal with that then he's not the man for me.

true dom? good sub? i obviously didn't read the rule book.

Not true! You're nice, and sweet, and sugary.

*passes you a note*

 

[Andraste]

Not true! You're nice, and sweet, and sugary.

*passes you a note*

you might be shocked at the note i pass back...

i'm starting to think you're stalking me.

 

[FurryFury]

Maybe you are subconciously trying to get reassurance that Your Dom can still dominate you. Maybe His reaction to your fighting back is exciting to you. you did say He seems to enjoy it and you probably like to please Him so this would make sense.

i find that i will fight doing things that i actually enjoy as well. i think it makes whatever it is more pleasurable somehow. Plus, i do like J's reaction to my fighting back. i don't fight back in a bad way though. He seems to enjoy my resistence when it comes to some things. i don't fight back when He is serious about something though.

Well I do think the fact that he seems to really enjoy it does cause me to take that direction more often. He's not really my Dom though he does top me from time to time.

or maybe there's that basic, animalistic rush from the adrenaline of fighting.
no deep, psychological explanation...just an urge.

I think that's likely part of it. *nods*

Frustration? Trying to force it into a place it isn't at the moment? Anger your needs are not 100% fulfilled? A subconcious realisation you need more, but feel you are trapped by your reality and don't know if it will remain enough? Testing yourself...perhaps angry at yourself? The answer is within you FF, you will know it when the time is right for you.

Catalina

The things I'm most frustrated about right now is lack of time for me, and lack of time with my online Dom.

I don't think I'm very angry atm. Of course my needs are not 100% fulfilled but I don't expect that. Not many people get that anyway.

I know that I've chosen this relationship and I don't wish to make an exit in the name of my own "needs."

I'm usually angry at myself about something but I don't think I'm testing myself with this. Of course years from now I could look back and with 20/20 hindsight seen it all differently.

Fury

 

[Sirens_Daughter]

Ok, I've been looking through this thread and reading the posts and more questions about myself have risen. Am I a Dom or sub? I'm strong willed, I like what I like and I hate being forced to do something that I don't want to do. But...I like being put in my place by a man that is strong enough to do it. What does that make me? I dont want to be dominated all the time, and I definitely would never make a man happy in the sense that I could not be submissive most of the time. Im so very curious and intrigue with this lifestyle, and yet I don't know where I would fit...

 

[lil_slave_rose]

Ok, I've been looking through this thread and reading the posts and more questions about myself have risen. Am I a Dom or sub? I'm strong willed, I like what I like and I hate being forced to do something that I don't want to do. But...I like being put in my place by a man that is strong enough to do it. What does that make me? I dont want to be dominated all the time, and I definitely would never make a man happy in the sense that I could not be submissive most of the time. Im so very curious and intrigue with this lifestyle, and yet I don't know where I would fit...

in my opinion, you are the only one who can answer that question. my advice is to continue researching until you find the thing that works for you. you don't HAVE to live this lifestyle 24/7. maybe you are a switch, or maybe you're a bottom...i don't know and can't really answer your question, as i said, only you can...good luck

 

[myinnerslut]

Ok, I've been looking through this thread and reading the posts and more questions about myself have risen. Am I a Dom or sub? I'm strong willed, I like what I like and I hate being forced to do something that I don't want to do. But...I like being put in my place by a man that is strong enough to do it. What does that make me? I dont want to be dominated all the time, and I definitely would never make a man happy in the sense that I could not be submissive most of the time. Im so very curious and intrigue with this lifestyle, and yet I don't know where I would fit...

a switch?

 

[naughtygirl69s]

read this post.
remembered the thread she made.
laughed my sassy arse off.

Nobody is perfect, I fucked up.

He was kind enough to forget and forgive me for a stupid mistake.

Maybe if you spent more energy improving your own broken psyche instead of wasting brain cells on remembering OLD threads your life might be more fulfilling.

Remember that the next time you fall into depression.

So go right ahead. You can laugh, but remember this:

You're alone.

HAHA

 

[Shaq]

Nobody is perfect, I fucked up.

He was kind enough to forget and forgive me for a stupid mistake.

Maybe if you spent more energy improving your own broken psyche instead of wasting brain cells on remembering OLD threads your life might be more fulfilling.

Remember that the next time you fall into depression.

So go right ahead. You can laugh, but remember this:

You're alone.

HAHA

My Beauty has redeemed herself

It should be noted.

In my belief system, God Himself was disobeyed by those under His Command so who am I to think that I would never be by those under mine????

But forgiveness is a beautiful thing as it gives the offenders a chance to correct their mistake.

I will give this as a note: I saw the 12 med a day patient's words and smiled. It was an excellent opportunity. When my sub offended me I taught, and forgave. Tonight, she made restitution by getting up and making her post after I informed her the damage her action caused.

I am quite proud of her tonight.

And it goes back to the beginning. I do not like rebellion. It is an obstacle to my plans. It doesn't turn me on or anything like that. I wish I could think of a better word to describe it. I prefer obedience. But it is unrealistic to expect it all the time. I do not desire rebellion. But when it arrives, I send it back with my displeasure until it returns to me as obedience.


NOTE: Did anyone see that television movie developed by Stephen King "Storm of the Century?" I remember the Andre Lanage, the demon creature that terroized the island people.

Rememeber how he gave them the choice he said he gave the Lost Colony of Roanoke? Give him one of their children for him to raise as an heir, or be driven into the ocean and destroyed. Well of course they pick the main character's son. And the father exclaims "It was rigged!" and Lanage only says "I assure you it was not."


Well, I know momentarily someone will say "He wrote that post!" my reply is his "I assure you I did not"

Tonight, Shaq is pleased.

 

[Andraste]

Nobody is perfect, I fucked up.

He was kind enough to forget and forgive me for a stupid mistake.

Maybe if you spent more energy improving your own broken psyche instead of wasting brain cells on remembering OLD threads your life might be more fulfilling.

Remember that the next time you fall into depression.

So go right ahead. You can laugh, but remember this:

You're alone.

HAHA

oh purlease!

it was a funny post to anyone who saw that thread.

and my being alone, by personal choice, would be an improvement on a person who sat crying at her comp, praying month after month that some net dude would come rescue her from utter loneliness...now, finally finding a bf suddenly makes you "better"? what, is this high school?...so if you want to start on that tack, go right ahead. if you want to move from playful jibes to some petty bitch fight, feel free!

 

[Andraste]

My Beauty has redeemed herself

Well, I know momentarily someone will say "He wrote that post!" my reply is his "I assure you I did not"

Tonight, Shaq is pleased.

as you should be!

i'm certain she wrote that herself.
loyalty is a fine thing.

 

[FurryFury]

Interesting rancorous posts but I'm lost.

I think I missed something.

Fury

 

[Kailey_86]

Interesting rancorous posts but I'm lost.

I think I missed something.

Fury

i'm with you on this one.

 

[CutieMouse]

Ok, I've been looking through this thread and reading the posts and more questions about myself have risen. Am I a Dom or sub? I'm strong willed, I like what I like and I hate being forced to do something that I don't want to do. But...I like being put in my place by a man that is strong enough to do it. What does that make me? I dont want to be dominated all the time, and I definitely would never make a man happy in the sense that I could not be submissive most of the time. Im so very curious and intrigue with this lifestyle, and yet I don't know where I would fit...

It makes you a human being... just like the rest of us.

 

[Sirens_Daughter]

Thank you all for the advice...