Dom/me wannabe's and their lack of insight

@}-}rebecca---- said:
Ambrose

With genuine respect I make the following comments of my own opinion.

I just looked at the first picture of your wife/submissive there is no doubt she is a beauty. I do understand the desire to push boundaries , I do understand the desire to show her off. I also understand from what you state that she may well enjoy the attention.

Surely this things can be achieved without putting her up to a troll festival by displaying her image over and over semi naked. I scanned the comments made following the picture posts. I don't know these people and neither do you I imagine, so where comes the self esteem from their appraisal of your wife/submissive ?

Is it ego ? Yes she is mine look but don't touch.If thats a motivation its a false pride however in my opinion.

I am old fashioned about such things, perhaps completely behind the times in some ways but to me as a submissive it lacks dignity to display her like that.

I also offer my apologies to your submissive for my comments. I am sure she has the brains to compliment her beauty and her compliance has been consensual in the posting of the picture thread. I am not suggesting any form of abuse has taken place.

There is for some differing degrees of propriety , run close to the edge you will only attract edge dwellers.

I wish you both well .

With kind though perhaps not as amicable remarks as you may have desired .

@}-}rebecca----


I felt compelled to comment on this as well, since I am the submissive in question here. :)

I do appreciate your concern and comments, Rebecca. I do not feel that this is undignified.
Yes, Master Ambrose did give me the task of posting pictures of myself online, however he gave me a choice of which pictures to do and also which medium.
I am an exhibitionist although I have been a bit shy about it before, and him pushing my limits with this was not something that bothered me. If it did, I would have spoken up about it.
I have also shown myself off on cam before (at my own behest, not a directive from him) so this wasn't out of the ordinary. I have also discussed various fantasies of exhibitionism with him, both IRL and online, so this wasn't unexpected or something that I only did to please him.
Yes, I do this for him but I also enjoy this myself. I do not believe he would ever ask me to do something I was truly uncomfortable with in a public forum such as Literotica.

Sapphire :rose:
 
Sapphire77 said:
I felt compelled to comment on this as well, since I am the submissive in question here. :)

I do appreciate your concern and comments, Rebecca. I do not feel that this is undignified.
Yes, Master Ambrose did give me the task of posting pictures of myself online, however he gave me a choice of which pictures to do and also which medium.
I am an exhibitionist although I have been a bit shy about it before, and him pushing my limits with this was not something that bothered me. If it did, I would have spoken up about it.
I have also shown myself off on cam before (at my own behest, not a directive from him) so this wasn't out of the ordinary. I have also discussed various fantasies of exhibitionism with him, both IRL and online, so this wasn't unexpected or something that I only did to please him.
Yes, I do this for him but I also enjoy this myself. I do not believe he would ever ask me to do something I was truly uncomfortable with in a public forum such as Literotica.

Sapphire :rose:
Well, I for one, am VERY glad you are not uncomfortable with it. I know I'm OK with it. :D

Now, if you ever want help with pushing other boundries, let me know. Those pictures are putting some ideas into my head. :cool:
 
DVS said:
Now, if you ever want help with pushing other boundries, let me know. Those pictures are putting some ideas into my head. :cool:

Don't blame her for your perverted brain. Those thoughts were already there. :p
 
graceanne said:
Don't blame her for your perverted brain. Those thoughts were already there. :p
OK, OK...you're right, I guess I am a little perverted. But, perverted or not, her pictures brought something to the surface of my perverted mind...like they were a catylist for raw anal lust, perhaps? :D
 
DVS said:
OK, OK...you're right, I guess I am a little perverted. But, perverted or not, her pictures brought something to the surface of my perverted mind...like they were a catylist for raw anal lust, perhaps? :D

A LITTLE? Is it just me, or is that the understatement of the year? :rolleyes:
 
FurryFury said:
I would love to post pictures of myself on here for the ego. I have noticed however, that someone, many someone's think everyone looks hot on here. I'm sad to say to me, that many do most assuredly not look hot to me. So that makes me wonder, are all these bravos "real?" Are their people that think everything is hot and want to fuck em? Are they really that depraved? *L* Or are they just being nice? I can't help but judge myself by stringent standards and I am my own worst critic.


What I guage it to be is it is respect and positive appreciation/feedback for those brave enough to venture into exhibitionism which ultimately feeds the needs of not only the poster, but the voyeurs who thrive on such revelation. If there was a huge backlash of derogatory comments to anyone who was not a model of perfection, then there would be reluctance of a lot to post pics, and the forum would die, or at best be boring in that it presented what can be found so many other places....one flavour fits all type formula. Apart from that, as you say, it is subjective as to what is beauty and/or hot. F for one likes women who are not skinny, or even that slim...more meat, more curves and you have his attention. I can appreciate slim, but I find meatier and curves more interesting in general in that it does not present a picture seen millions of times a day in glossy mags and on porn sites, something unexpected perhaps...and often a personality to go with it. :cathappy:

Catalina :rose:
 
Sapphire77 said:
I felt compelled to comment on this as well, since I am the submissive in question here. :)

I do appreciate your concern and comments, Rebecca. I do not feel that this is undignified.
Yes, Master Ambrose did give me the task of posting pictures of myself online, however he gave me a choice of which pictures to do and also which medium.
I am an exhibitionist although I have been a bit shy about it before, and him pushing my limits with this was not something that bothered me. If it did, I would have spoken up about it.
I have also shown myself off on cam before (at my own behest, not a directive from him) so this wasn't out of the ordinary. I have also discussed various fantasies of exhibitionism with him, both IRL and online, so this wasn't unexpected or something that I only did to please him.
Yes, I do this for him but I also enjoy this myself. I do not believe he would ever ask me to do something I was truly uncomfortable with in a public forum such as Literotica.

Sapphire :rose:


I think it is often misunderstood and seen in a derogatory way unfortunately. There is pride in owning something beautiful, and just as some will flash pics of their Ferrari's or diamond necklaces, others may choose to show the world their slave/submissive with just as much dignity, respect and pride. Of course it can also be used as a tool where a sub/slave is reluctant, to emphasise their submission and/or owned status, and/or to show them they are beautiful in their own way. I am not a big fan of the mode of submission that puts the sub/slave up on a pedestal where they can expect nothing but shows of respect, worship and reverence...much prefer to feel owned and useable, and definately not fragile and shielded. :catroar:

Catalina :rose:
 
DVS said:
OK, OK...you're right, I guess I am a little perverted. But, perverted or not, her pictures brought something to the surface of my perverted mind...like they were a catylist for raw anal lust, perhaps? :D

Aren't most things a catalyst for raw anal lust for you? :D
 
catalina_francisco said:
What I guage it to be is it is respect and positive appreciation/feedback for those brave enough to venture into exhibitionism which ultimately feeds the needs of not only the poster, but the voyeurs who thrive on such revelation. If there was a huge backlash of derogatory comments to anyone who was not a model of perfection, then there would be reluctance of a lot to post pics, and the forum would die, or at best be boring in that it presented what can be found so many other places....one flavour fits all type formula. Apart from that, as you say, it is subjective as to what is beauty and/or hot. F for one likes women who are not skinny, or even that slim...more meat, more curves and you have his attention. I can appreciate slim, but I find meatier and curves more interesting in general in that it does not present a picture seen millions of times a day in glossy mags and on porn sites, something unexpected perhaps...and often a personality to go with it. :cathappy:

Catalina :rose:
What makes me wonder is if the same people post their 'you are beautiful/hot' comments to all types of picture sharers. I can see how someone prefers a meatier, curvier woman, or a slim, skinny, athletic, young, old, whatever. I can't really understand how the same person can show the same amount of admiration for all these women (it's mostly women, happens for men, too). Well, I don't have to understand everything, and I could just roll my eyes and say 'Men!' :cool:
 
chris9 said:
What makes me wonder is if the same people post their 'you are beautiful/hot' comments to all types of picture sharers. I can see how someone prefers a meatier, curvier woman, or a slim, skinny, athletic, young, old, whatever. I can't really understand how the same person can show the same amount of admiration for all these women (it's mostly women, happens for men, too). Well, I don't have to understand everything, and I could just roll my eyes and say 'Men!' :cool:

LOL, as I said, for some it is a mark of respect of sorts and appreciation and that in turn can mean that yes, they do find these people of varying shapes and sizes appealing simply because they are willing to share with others....that alone can be a turn on. I find I am attracted to a person more for who they are than looks, so yes, I will see someone as physically attractive if they are attractive to me on a personality level which may include being an exhibitionist or voyeur. But then I am perve of major proportions. :D

Catalina :catroar:
 
catalina_francisco said:
What I guage it to be is it is respect and positive appreciation/feedback for those brave enough to venture into exhibitionism which ultimately feeds the needs of not only the poster, but the voyeurs who thrive on such revelation. If there was a huge backlash of derogatory comments to anyone who was not a model of perfection, then there would be reluctance of a lot to post pics, and the forum would die, or at best be boring in that it presented what can be found so many other places....one flavour fits all type formula. Apart from that, as you say, it is subjective as to what is beauty and/or hot. F for one likes women who are not skinny, or even that slim...more meat, more curves and you have his attention. I can appreciate slim, but I find meatier and curves more interesting in general in that it does not present a picture seen millions of times a day in glossy mags and on porn sites, something unexpected perhaps...and often a personality to go with it. :cathappy:

Catalina :rose:

If the people are being genuinely admiring? I think that is great.

I know my husband and I often have very different views on what is beautiful or attractive and what is not. This works in our favor because he finds me attractive, (with a rather broad jaw) and I find him attractive, (with a long thin face.)

Pictures of people I don't know are one thing attraction wise.

What it really comes down to for me usually, is the brain, the words and deeds of the individual. When those are right the person becomes MUCH more attractive to me than any model or movie star. When it's not right, well, I can't be into that person. I can tolerate them or avoid them, but I can't be attracted no matter how beautiful their bone structure or skin is.

Fury :rose:
 
FurryFury said:
If the people are being genuinely admiring? I think that is great.

I know my husband and I often have very different views on what is beautiful or attractive and what is not. This works in our favor because he finds me attractive, (with a rather broad jaw) and I find him attractive, (with a long thin face.)

Pictures of people I don't know are one thing attraction wise.

What it really comes down to for me usually, is the brain, the words and deeds of the individual. When those are right the person becomes MUCH more attractive to me than any model or movie star. When it's not right, well, I can't be into that person. I can tolerate them or avoid them, but I can't be attracted no matter how beautiful their bone structure or skin is.

Fury :rose:

I quite agree with you, Fury. To me, there is physical beauty and there is a person's attitude thoughts and personality. I'll take the attitude thoughts and personality over physical beauty any time because attitude thoughts and personality tell what the person is really about. I have met a large number of good looking women but attraction was only fleeting.
 
raven2 said:
I quite agree with you, Fury. To me, there is physical beauty and there is a person's attitude thoughts and personality. I'll take the attitude thoughts and personality over physical beauty any time because attitude thoughts and personality tell what the person is really about. I have met a large number of good looking women but attraction was only fleeting.

Good for you Raven!!!

:kiss:

Fury :rose:

I guess what really tweaks me about this, is that if I posted something and I actually looked like shit or ridiculous or something, I'd want someone to tell me you know? I'd want to know I could trust folks.

I'd hate to have it all hanging out there and have people saying nice things when really they are thinking, "Damn I can't believe she did that, she looks like a fucking huge nightmare, doesn't she know that?" Or, "She's 45 for God's sake, but she's trying to look 19 and that just doesn't work! Someone should tell her."

Yeah, I think like that, worry like that, about myself, me bad that way.

Fury :rose:
 
FurryFury said:
Good for you Raven!!!

:kiss:

Fury :rose:

I guess what really tweaks me about this, is that if I posted something and I actually looked like shit or ridiculous or something, I'd want someone to tell me you know? I'd want to know I could trust folks.

I'd hate to have it all hanging out there and have people saying nice things when really they are thinking, "Damn I can't believe she did that, she looks like a fucking huge nightmare, doesn't she know that?" Or, "She's 45 for God's sake, but she's trying to look 19 and that just doesn't work! Someone should tell her."

Yeah, I think like that, worry like that, about myself, me bad that way.

Fury :rose:

Well, it really is a harder situation online. The feedback is in writing and it is hard to decipher how someone actually feels if you can't see them. I would like to thinj that most of the people around here would be honest enough to tell you the truth. I find that is usually the case. :rose:
 
raven2 said:
Well, it really is a harder situation online. The feedback is in writing and it is hard to decipher how someone actually feels if you can't see them. I would like to thinj that most of the people around here would be honest enough to tell you the truth. I find that is usually the case. :rose:

I'm a performer in RL. I worry about this both in RL and online.

What's interesting to me is how many varied things go into what one says online.

There is the core person. There is the person they believe themselves or wish themselves to be. All sorts of stuff goes into what they say and how they say it.

I have a personal ad right now. It's very interesting what people say they are and what they reveal themselves to be often unknowingly.

I've always found it interesting how people see me and often hurtful when I get honest feedback.

When I was younger it was all about my body or face. That hurt because I wanted it to be about my brain or personality.

Now I'd just as soon it were about my body or face cause folks, I'm losing it!!! LOL! Might as well rejoice and enjoy it while I can!

Lots of folks seem to think I'm a high maintenance type of girl. I'm actually one of the most laid back people you could possibly hook up with. I think what they really mean is they see me as exciting and into stuff. I think they therefore assume I would make life stressful and demanding but who knows? I sure don't.

Some see me as the Mother Earth type. That used to bug me too but I can see it now. *shrugs*

Fury :rose:
 
FurryFury said:
I'm a performer in RL. I worry about this both in RL and online.

What's interesting to me is how many varied things go into what one says online.

There is the core person. There is the person they believe themselves or wish themselves to be. All sorts of stuff goes into what they say and how they say it.

I have a personal ad right now. It's very interesting what people say they are and what they reveal themselves to be often unknowingly.

I've always found it interesting how people see me and often hurtful when I get honest feedback.

When I was younger it was all about my body or face. That hurt because I wanted it to be about my brain or personality.

Now I'd just as soon it were about my body or face cause folks, I'm losing it!!! LOL! Might as well rejoice and enjoy it while I can!

Lots of folks seem to think I'm a high maintenance type of girl. I'm actually one of the most laid back people you could possibly hook up with. I think what they really mean is they see me as exciting and into stuff. I think they therefore assume I would make life stressful and demanding but who knows? I sure don't.

Some see me as the Mother Earth type. That used to bug me too but I can see it now. *shrugs*

Fury :rose:

I did see your personal. How is the feed back going. I'm sure you are getting a lot of the usual bull but are any of the replies peaking your interest?
 
raven2 said:
I did see your personal. How is the feed back going. I'm sure you are getting a lot of the usual bull but are any of the replies peaking your interest?

The jury is still out but some conversations are taking place. I think this will be a long and hard thing to come by really but I always enjoy talking with folks.

I am not currently in a sub frenzy so it's a good time to do this, I think. In fact, I'm pretty mellow and happy with things at the moment. It's a good place to be and will help me make better decisions.

Fury :rose:
 
FurryFury said:
The jury is still out but some conversations are taking place. I think this will be a long and hard thing to come by really but I always enjoy talking with folks.

I am not currently in a sub frenzy so it's a good time to do this, I think. In fact, I'm pretty mellow and happy with things at the moment. It's a good place to be and will help me make better decisions.

Fury :rose:

I do hope so. I would like to help you but I don't think I am the one you are looking for. (although I would love to be *evil grin*) :rose: :kiss:
 
raven2 said:
I do hope so. I would like to help you but I don't think I am the one you are looking for. (although I would love to be *evil grin*) :rose: :kiss:

*chuckles*

If I'm not mistaken you have an online sub already.

Fury :rose:
 
FurryFury said:
*chuckles*

If I'm not mistaken you have an online sub already.

Fury :rose:

Had one, we called it quits today. :( Just wasn't working.
 
cati said:
Hmmm. I'm sorry to hear that Raven.

Thank-you. It really was very sudden, but that is what she wanted and I had to respect her wishes.
 
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